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Saudi Arabia tells Pakistan: No more easy money

Great decision Saudi Arabia. Our elite is a rent seeking leech. It only looks for easy money. Its has got used to easy money for America and Middle East. This money supply should be cut off.

No country can be run by seeking loans from friends. We need to be self reliant. For that, we need to eliminate these leeches.

No surprises. They got the orders from their masters in Washington DC.

Everyone else posting on this tread are idiots. SA and UAE are not our friends. I predicted this 2 years ago.

So how long do you think this model of getting money is sustainable? Do tell me which country keeps begging money from friends all the time.
 
A great decision! 100% money-laundering Sheikhs know how much the Pak Deep State has hoarded and hedged due to their 100% controls over the Pak Economy that is buttressed by the 100% narcotic Taliban, 100% sanctioned Mollas etc....
 
Enough is enough… they know imbecile crooks are in power. It’s like throwing money down the drain.
 
I thought I will never hear these sweet words in my life time, but our over achieving Army has made it happen in my life....We all must thank our FA pass generals for this great achievement. Now they should all sit in Core Commander conference and count their plots and properties inside and outside Pakistan, afterwards they can go for a game of Golf or mediocre polo game.
 
No surprises. They got the orders from their masters in Washington DC.

Everyone else posting on this tread are idiots. SA and UAE are not our friends. I predicted this 2 years ago.
Yeah no, you dumb f*ck! The leaders of those countries are honorable only because they reinvested their oil money back into their country, unlike the bhookay Naungay you shrill for. These cowards pretending to be generals have money saved up. Have them go to an ATM and withdraw $50bn to pay off some of Pakistans foreign debt.
 
Published date: 18 March 2023 09:30 UTC
Last update: 1 day 9 hours ago

Saudi Arabia's decision to refuse to provide any further bailouts or interest-free loans to Pakistan has left the government in Islamabad in shock and has prompted the finance minister to complain that even friendly countries aren’t keen on helping Pakistan out of its economic emergency.

Pakistan is in dire need of sustained US dollar inflows to avoid defaulting on nearly $80bn of international loan repayments over the next three and a half years. The country is currently sitting on just $3bn in foreign exchange reserves.


Pakistan is also locked in difficult negotiations with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) over its 13th bailout package since the 1980s.

If an agreement isn’t struck soon, Pakistan will find it increasingly difficult to secure international loans, as its credit rating has been downgraded to junk.

Analysts privy to recent developments have told Middle East Eye that Saudi Arabia has conditioned fresh interest-bearing loans and investment on Pakistan implementing strict monetary and fiscal reforms along with a drastic reduction in its current account deficit - conditions similar to those set by the IMF.

Umar Karim, associate fellow at the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies, said Pakistani authorities are in a state of shock.

“While previously Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries would bail Pakistan out off the back of a phone call from the foreign minister or the prime minister, this time around they are really being put through the mill,” Karim told MEE.

It is believed that on a recent trip, even the Pakistani military chief couldn't convince Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to release emergency funding for the country.

Karim believes this sets a new precedent. “The Pakistani military chiefs have previously been a source of assurance to friendly countries, but the Saudis have now had enough of Pakistan's civilian authorities squandering away these handouts,” he said.

New world order​

At the World Economic Forum in Davos in January, the Saudi finance minister made the kingdom's new policy very clear.

Mohammed al-Jadaan said: “We used to give direct grants and deposits without strings attached and we are changing that. We are working with multilateral institutions to actually say we need to see reforms.”

“We are taxing our people, we are expecting also others to do the same, to do their efforts. We want to help but we want you also to do your part.”


Kamal Alam, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, said that Pakistani authorities should have read the pattern.

“Saudi Arabia is on a different course now. They've reset their relationship with other countries and refused to give financial handouts to namely: Jordan, Morocco and even Egypt. However, Pakistan, which is far more dysfunctional than all of the others, should have seen it coming,” Alam told MEE.

“Pakistan's been lulled by a false sense of security”, the analyst said, “that with a population of over 220 million and a comprehensive nuclear weapons programme, it’s too big for the world to let it fail. This has bred complacency across successive governments and the country's military leadership of easy loans or bailouts.”

Khaqan Najeeb, former adviser to Pakistan’s finance ministry, said the Saudis want Pakistan to sign a deal with the IMF and only then will they see any loans or investment.

“The Pakistani government's delay in implementing essential monetary and fiscal policies, as demanded by the IMF, has hurt the economic situation,” Najeeb said.

“There is also a major trust deficit between the government and the IMF and that's why the Fund is making sure Pakistan implements these policies before it receives any further funding or the important stamp of approval."

Meanwhile, the rate of inflation in Pakistan is set to hit 33 percent in the coming months and the country's currency has devalued nearly 65 percent in the last 12 months.

Nearly six months ago, in a bid to stem the outflow of foreign exchange, the Pakistani government stopped almost all imports, leading to a raw materials shortage across manufacturing sectors and a temporary shutdown of several automobile manufacturing plants and textile factories.

Najeeb argues that with high inflation, slow growth and high interest rates around the world, there is less money available for emerging markets like Pakistan, and that without the IMF's “stamp of approval” even friendly Gulf kingdoms will remain shy of investing in the country.

“Friendly countries too want to see reforms in Pakistan, however this time they are going for an investment model as opposed to previously when they would simply deposit a few billion dollars in Pakistan's state bank. This might turn out to be better for the country,” Najeeb told MEE.

What to reform and what follows that?​

Kamal Alam told MEE that it was “very obvious” that “the delay in implementing IMF reforms is because the political elite wants to avoid them - deep-set corruption in government is at the heart of it.”

Alam said that a culture of “zero accountability has completely wrecked trust in Pakistani leadership, at home and abroad”.

Pakistan is ranked 140 on Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index for 2022, not a favourable ranking, Alam said, if the country wants to attract foreign investment.

Najeeb, who worked in government, said that just attracting foreign investment will not solve Pakistan's problems in the long-term and that the country needs to expand its tax base and improve tax collection.

“Pakistan's agriculture sector contributes 23 percent of total GDP, while tax collection across the sector is very poor,” he said. “Similarly Pakistan's retail and real estate sectors also contribute heavily to the GDP but almost completely avoid taxation.”

The Saudis are also unhappy with the way Islamabad is behaving these days, said Umar Karim.

“The current prime minister has a 77-member ministerial cabinet, the largest in the world; they all receive full perks and privileges. Why would the Saudis help you if you continue to afford yourself such luxuries while they are putting themselves through a cost-cutting drive?” he told MEE.

Karim believes the Saudis are interested in investing in Pakistan's energy sector - both fossil fuels and renewables – and that they are also interested in investing in the country's booming IT sector. But this investment, he said, would only happen after Pakistan implemented economic reforms.

While Pakistan is besotten with a crippling power crisis, Saudi investment in the renewable energy sector could be crucial. A 2020 report from the World Bank suggests Pakistan has immense potential for generating power through solar energy.

“Utilising just 0.071 percent of the country's area for solar power generation would meet Pakistan's current electricity demand,” the report said.

In 2019, however, the Saudi government expressed interest in setting up an oil refinery and in making other investments totalling $10bn in Pakistan. But, Najeeb said, Pakistan would need to “revamp its board of investment” and bring in “specialist human resources and incentives” in order to take advantage of this opening.

The former finance ministry adviser said that a reset in relations with Saudi Arabia would be good for Pakistan and could prove to be a wake-up call.

For Pakistan, the days of easy money are over.


This is superb news. Are Dar and Bilawal going to say that Saudis are treating them unfairly?


Nice let this rotten system in pak burn down
 
No surprises. They got the orders from their masters in Washington DC.

Everyone else posting on this tread are idiots. SA and UAE are not our friends. I predicted this 2 years ago.

Friend or not, makes no difference. WHY should the Saudis and Emiratis give Pakistan handouts, loans etc to survive? Why does the Pakistani military want non-Pakistanis to help them? Why can't the Pakistani leadership help Pakistan? Why are they always begging non-Pakistanis? We deserve this for our own incompetence. To the Arabs, Pakistanis are lower than rats.
 
It's funny to see so many Pakistanis here cheering Saudi's shift in approach to grants and loans as if anything could be different, for better, under Imran Khan!

As for the article itself, Saudi stopped giving us interest free loans 2-3 years ago and even their deposits carry interest so information in the article is not really accurate. Besides, Davos happened months ago and the message by the Saudi Foreign Minister is old news now.
 
It will be a long long long time before anyone trusts Pakistan again and only then after the Pakistan Army/GHQ is bought under firm control ... and real changes in the governance architecture and economic framework take place for Pakistan.
No one trusts them already, but they can be bought for a few dollars. And their papa, America will make sure they can continue to be relevant.
 
Yeah no, you dumb f*ck! The leaders of those countries are honorable only because they reinvested their oil money back into their country, unlike the bhookay Naungay you shrill for. These cowards pretending to be generals have money saved up. Have them go to an ATM and withdraw $50bn to pay off some of Pakistans foreign debt.
Honarable, my foot! MBS is turning Saudi Arabia into a Disney Land with an Islamic theme park. You have no idea what's going on. This all started around 2008/10, its a systematic plan to eliminate any influence of Islam in the politics of Islamic countries. Initiated by the West after 911 but funded by MBS and MBZ. Not because they love the west but because its a guarantee of their own survival. During the time of General Kayani a message was sent to Pakistan through the US Central Command General to move toward secularism. With all his faults I will give Kayani some credit as he politely refused by saying that Islam is too embedded in our psyche. Obviously Bajwa didn't have any balls, was bought off or was influenced by his Ahmadi credentials or a combination of all three that he has set the country in this direction.

Apart from example of countries where the West intervened directly like Iraq and Libya or where the leaders are already inherently pro western, here are few examples:

Sissi's coup in Egypt against the elected Islamic Brotherhood government orchestrated and financed by Saudi Arabia.

Palace coup against designated crown prince Hasan bin Talal of Jordan and replacement with prince Abdullah as the king as as Talal was considered more Islamic and married to a Pakistani. All orchestrated by MBS

Overthrow of Bashir in Sudan who was considered Islamic and subsequent coups resulting in a secular government. Orchestrated by MBS

The attempted but failed coup in Turkey was directly orchestrated by the US as Saudi Arabia had limited influence

Elimination of populist islamic movement in BD done with help of India was also a part of this strategy.

MBS and MBZ as proxies of the west have more to do with the mess Pakistan is in than anyone else. They will not accept any populist Islamic leaning movement similar to PTI to take power in Pakistan as it will have knock-on effect in the region.

The only two Islamic countries that are truly independent are Iran and Afghanistan. Turkey is somewhat challenging the west but it is still a secular country and member of NATO.

So much for Honor! Some people are traitors to country and some are traitors to a belief system. MBS and MBZ are same as the Nawabs and Rajas under the British in India but at a much bigger scale.

If IK can win against such odds, I will really admire him but for now the odds look very slim. I am not even sure he knows what he is up against.
 
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Honarable, my foot! MBS is turning Saudi Arabia into a Disney Land with an Islamic theme park. You have no idea what's going on. This all started in around 2008/10, its a systematic plan to eliminate any influence of Islam in the politics of Islamic countries. Initiated by the West after 911 but funded by MBS and MBZ. Not because they love the west but because its a guarantee of their own survival. During the time of General Kayani a message was sent to Pakistan through the US Central Command General to move toward secularism. With all his faults I will give Kayani some credit as he politely refused by saying that Islam is too embedded in our culture. Obviously Bajwa didn't have any balls, was bought off or was influenced by his Ahmadi credentials or a combination of all three that he has set the country in this direction.

Apart from example of countries where the West intervened directly like Iraq and Libya or where the leaders are already inherently pro western, here are few examples:

Sissi's coup in Egypt against the elected Islamic Brotherhood government orchestrated and financed by Saudi Arabia.

Palace coup against designated crown prince Hasan bin Talal of Jordan and replacement with prince Abdullah as the king as as Talal was considered more Islamic and married to a Pakistani. All orchestrated by MBS

Overthrow of Bashir in Sudan who considered Islamic and subsequent coups resulting in a secular government. Orchestrated by MBS

The attempted but failed coup in Turkey was directly orchestrated by the US as Saudi Arabia had limited influence

Elimination of populist islamic movement in BD done with help of India was also a part of this strategy.

MBS and MBZ as proxies of the west have more to do with the mess Pakistan is in than anyone else. They will not accept any populist Islamic leaning movement similar to PTI to take power in Pakistan as it will have knock-on effect in the region.

The only two Islamic countries that are truly independent are Iran and Afghanistan. Turkey is somewhat challenging the west but it is still a secular country and member of NATO.

So much for Honor! Some people are traitors to country and some are traitors to a belief system. MBS and MBZ are same as the Nawabs and Rajas under the British in India but at a much bigger scale.

If IK can win against such odds, I will really admire him but for now the odds look very slim. I am not even sure he knows what he is up against.

The Arabs hate IK, the same with the U.S but hate would be too strong a word for them

He is out spoken, a patriot, uninterested in corruption or being paid off and wants what's best for Pakistan and for Pakistan to take it's rightfull place as a nuclear power


The Arabs hated the independent thought process he was displaying, the U.S hated he was outspoken and pushed back


The establishment could not keep him.out of power in 2018so they limited his majority to negligible so PTI couldn't make any change

When it emerged that he would likely win the next election and with PTI in government rigging elections against them would be difficult, they plotted and planned and took him out of power with a assassination attempt to get rid of him permanently on top of that


The PDM are such haramis that they will rather see Pakistan as a slave then allow it to be free and stand on its own as a nation of 230 million and a nuclear power



The only thing the people can do is vote for IK and PTI enmass and not pull a Karachi where the jahil vote for trash like PPP or MQM




At the moment the aim is to destroy IK and PTI to such a extent then rig elections with full support from PDM and multiple parties



Problem is they are fcuk ups, and the have bought economic destruction along with them, people are suffering and they may not be able to pull it off with this much incompetence
 
@Bossman

MBS also has a great relationship with India. Our beloved PM ModiGee got the highest civilian award of KSA- the AbdulAziz sash from the Keeper of the Two Holy Cities. Not even our first PM the fraudia Chacha JLN or IndiraGee got that coveted award.

Regards
 

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