Saudi Arabia praises nomination of al-Abadi as Iraq’s new PM

[Mosamania]

@Mosamania

With Iran too backing the new PM, who exactly is going support Maliki's new militia?

He strikes me more like a vegetable vendor to me than a man capable of running an insurgency with no one to support him.

Best case scenario remains to have a tri nation airpower alliance to destroy ISIS, while the Iraqis do the ground work. Once they are smashed, the next target should be Assad.

Yeah I just read that Iran is supporting Abbadi, I am genuinely relieved, enough is enough man. Now Maliki will be shoved aside and probably tried for treason in a court soon. And we can focus on the bigger threat, ISIS.

 

[Multani]

Looks like Abadi is a moderate Shia and may not be sectarian like Maliki:
Haider al-Abadi: from exile in Britain to Iraq's next prime minister | World news | theguardian.com
Iran is also supporting him, which is prudent for them, after the idiotic policy of sectarian Maliki:
Iran, US endorse Maliki successor Haider al-Abadi « Hot Air
Iran endorses Haider al-Abadi as Iraq’s new prime minister, spurning Nouri al-Maliki - The Washington Post

The bigger question is whether Abadi will be able to bring Kurds and Sunni's on board, while Peshmerga is in the process of getting fully armed supplied by the US and Sunni's also are armed, regardless of ISIS stays or not.

If the Iraqi Sunni Arab tribes support him, then the khawari IS can be rooted out easily, but still at a cost to the Sunnis, who have payed twice dearly in the past decade. This is their fate inevitable. Allah Mustaan

 

[Mosamania]

hmm not really but the way KSA is acting it is too simple to understand that KSA as a country can go to any length (bloodshed in muslim world specially) to serve its or its master agenda.

If by master you mean country's interests then yes, otherwise this type of mentality is only held by two types of people:

1- Brainwashed propaganda victims.
2- Ignorant people of the state of how politics work.

I hope that you neither of those things, each and every country serves its own interests, and that is a right for every country in the world to have to its people, that when a country i capable of serving its interests in the world stage it should take it, and failing to do so is a betrayal to the country's own people.

 

[kobenhaven]

1- Brainwashed propaganda victims.
2- Ignorant people of the state of how politics work.

Wondering on which category KSA people fall ? no choice of either/or. You are true.

 

[Mosamania]

Wondering on which category KSA people fall ? no choice of either/or. You are true.

KSA people? ALL of KSA people? Each every single person of 30,000,000 people? Now that is a very dangerous case of over generalization there mess.

 

[Hussein]

Oh Thank God Iran gave support to Abbadi, I was actually relieved when I heard about the news, otherwise it would be a PM blood bath in Iraq with a Saudi-Iranian proxy war. Quite honestly Iraq doesn't need all this BS anymore.

it is some time now Iran criticized Maliki
Maliki would not be able to unite Iraqis: it is what he is blamed for.

 

[kalu_miah]

History Repeating Itself? U.S. Bombing Iraq While Jockeying to Oust Leader It Once Favored | Democracy Now!

 

[Falcon29]

History Repeating Itself? U.S. Bombing Iraq While Jockeying to Oust Leader It Once Favored | Democracy Now!

Who ever they want in the region they will put in power. No good Muslims are allowed who support the self determination/self sufficient aspirations of the Arab world. Like the MB in Egypt, one year after being elected there was a massive coup orchestrated by Egyptian elite/KSA/GCC/Israel/US.

They take advantage of the poor people to use them as political tools. This is why I always said these regional players don't believe in democracy. They only believe in their power. Which is why the MB or any Islamic movements running for elections should always treat it as if their fighting for their survival. Now they have learned their lesson, they must not allow it to repeat itself again.

 

[IR1907]

Does Maliki have powers over the armed forces now ? If he has, he can be a threat !

 

[kalu_miah]

Who ever they want in the region they will put in power. No good Muslims are allowed who support the self determination/self sufficient aspirations of the Arab world. Like the MB in Egypt, one year after being elected there was a massive coup orchestrated by Egyptian elite/KSA/GCC/Israel/US.

They take advantage of the poor people to use them as political tools. This is why I always said these regional players don't believe in democracy. They only believe in their power. Which is why the MB or any Islamic movements running for elections should always treat it as if their fighting for their survival. Now they have learned their lesson, they must not allow it to repeat itself again.

MB types are not fully democratic either, they made some people upset (seculars, Copts etc.) and people who wanted to oust them (Army and their friends) pounced on them, taking advantage of the opening. MB was just not good enough tactically to play this game and they lost. Without some level of public support it would have been difficult to oust MB, so they need to do some soul searching of their own, to find out where they went wrong and learn from this. One of their biggest mistake was not building a good relationship with Gulf Monarchs, giving them guarantee to not to incite their population against Monarchy. They had that relationship with Qatar, but for some reason could not make it work with KSA, UAE and Kuwait. Army was smarter than them and got the monarch's on their side. I see it as a failure of tactical skills.

 

[Falcon29]

MB types are not fully democratic either, they made some people upset (seculars, Copts etc.) and people who want to ousted them (Army and their friends) pounced on them, taking advantage of the opening. MB was just not good enough tactically to play this game and they lost. Without some level of public support it would have been difficult to oust MB, so they need to do some soul searching of their own, to find out where they went wrong and learn from this. One of their biggest mistake was not building a good relationship with Gulf Monarchs, giving them guarantee to not to incite their population against Monarchy. They had that relationship with Qatar, but for some reason could not make it work with KSA, UAE and Kuwait. Army was smarter than them and got the monarch's on their side. I see it as a failure of tactical skills.

I agree with the beginning of your post. But, I remember because of liberal demands that Morsi had went against initial legislation. The Liberals in the parliament were getting all their demands answered and still were refusing to cooperate with the government. They wanted to rid of the elected government even though they had large representation. It's unrealistic to say well too bad, they didn't have 99.9% support of the population so we can only blame that factor. It doesn't work that way, 50% or more support is considered majority.

I know people will say Morsi granted himself powers. Of course the MB in Egypt needed to do more reform but they needed time.That had to do with emergency laws regarding state institutions since he wanted to complete them.

MB didn't need to guarantee anything to those nations. They weren't asking of anything either. Egypt was inviting Saudi Arabia to multiple conferences to discuss regional affairs but Saudi Arabia rejected the offers because Iran was also part of them. MB can't incite populations against those nations either. You are giving them too much power. It's ultimately the people there who will decide the fate of those monarchies.

The army is stupid not smart(They can work though), the reason why the coup succeeded is because the MB didn't realize there was such a large conspiracy against them which had been planned before they were elected. The army plays by force and intimidation. You can get that army to do anything you want as long as millions in paychecks are sent to the generals. So in that sense, yes, the MB failed to realize that seriousness of the scheme against them. However, overthrowing a democratically elected government made the MB look like victims whether we believe they are or not. They should be allowed to finish their term. Why couldn't that happen? No one can answer that.

By the way, the Egyptians aren't relieved at all after this. I've been there plenty of times and was there before, during and after the coup. Most people are desperate and poor. We can only hope for the best for the people of the Arab world but they don't know what they want.

 

[Al Bhatti]

August 12, 2014

In this July 15, 2014 file photo, Haider Al Abadi speaks to the media after an Iraqi parliament session in Baghdad.

Haider Al Abadi: From exile in Britain to Iraq’s next prime minister
Former electrical engineer who studied at Manchester University now faces the political ‘catastrophe’ caused by militants

Iraq’s new prime minister, Haider Al Abadi, is a low-key figure who spent much of his life living in exile in Britain, before returning to Iraq after the 2003 invasion. A Shiite, he has previously been touted as a replacement for Nouri Al Maliki, the embattled incumbent.

On Monday Iraq’s president appointed Al Abadi as prime minister-designate and tasked him with forming a new “inclusive” government.

Born in Baghdad in 1952, Al Abadi joined the Islamic Dawa party — Al Maliki’s party — at the age of 15. His father, Jawad Al Abadi, was a prominent Baghdad doctor and hospital director who became inspector general at the Iraqi health ministry. After the Baathists seized power, Al Abadi and his family came into conflict with the Saddam Hussain regime.

Al Abadi studied electrical engineering in Baghdad, and then in the late 1970s moved to Britain to do a doctorate at Manchester University. In the UK, Al Abadi became an outspoken Saddam critic and Dawa activist. In 1982 the Baath regime executed two of his brothers, and imprisoned a third for ten years. It cancelled his Iraqi passport in 1983. His father died in exile and was buried in London.

According to Al Abadi’s biography, posted on Monday on his Facebook page, he worked in the UK as an “expert in the technology of rapid transit” — the subject of his doctoral thesis. In London, he ran his own small design and technology firm and in 1997 received a grant from the trade and industry ministry for technology innovation. Al Abadi also hosted a London cafe popular with Iraqi exiles.

Al Abadi returned to Iraq in 2003, where he became a key adviser to Al Maliki in Iraq’s first post-invasion elected government. He held a series of senior posts, including minister of communications and, most recently, deputy speaker of parliament.

Following months of political deadlock, the moderate Dawa faction supported Al Abadi’s nomination as prime minister on Monday. Al Maliki’s refusal to give up the prime minister’s job — his supporters say he will challenge Al Abadi’s appointment in court — raises the prospect of Shiite versus Shiite conflict, both in Baghdad and beyond.

Al Abadi’s urgent political task will be to stop Iraq’s rapid disintegration and to halt the rise of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil), which in recent months has seized vast swaths of northern and western Iraq. In an interview in June with the Huffington Post Al Abadi bluntly warned that Isil militants were a “catastrophe” not only for Iraq, but for the entire region, and the West too. He said that the Iraqi government was able to defend Baghdad but it would require outside help — “even from Iran” if necessary — to kick Isis out of the country.

A moderate, Al Abadi is likely to enjoy support from Kurds and Sunnis, who have accused Al Maliki of pursuing a sectarian agenda and excluding them from power.

Haider Al Abadi: From exile in Britain to Iraq’s next prime minister | GulfNews.com

 

[Full Moon]

I am not very optimistic about this change. Al Abbadi belongs to the same political party as Al Maliki, namely "Hizb Al Da'wah" (Al Da'wah Party). That political party has always been under the full control of Iran and continues to be. The real ruler in Iraq today is not Al Maliki, nor Al Abbadi. It is undoubtedly General Qassem Sulimani from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (Sepah).

In other cynical word, Qassem Sulimani has just changed his Deputy.

 

[Cheetah786]

I am pretty sure that this new puppet is a sunni that is why KSA is opening up its arm for him. Sorry to be blunt but no one has screwed muslim world more than KSA.

Sunni or Shia don't matter , Sunnis should have been part of the government from day one period!!!!!!!!!!!. Maliki was wrong to ignore the Sunni and other minorities.