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[al-Hasani]

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The word Mongol is not a degrading word for us.It's like calling a Korean "Japanese".

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Only a proposed linguistic connection with the Koreans and Japanese. Altaic is also only a proposed language group. Turkic is the linguistic group of Turks.

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The point is that your compatriot should not make any insults here on this section for no reason or troll here. If any person made such an comment on the Turkish section they would get a similar or even worse reply not only from 1 user but several.

Anyway let us stick to the topic. Trolls should be thread banned if they have nothing wise to offer aside from provoking people deliberately for no reason.

 

[-SINAN-]

Only a proposed linguistic connection with the Koreans and Japanese. Altaic is also only a proposed language group.

The point is that your compatriot should not make any insults here on this section for no reason or troll here. If any person made such an comment on the Turkish section they would get a similar or even worse reply not only from 1 user but several.

Anyway let us stick to the topic. Trolls should be thread banned if they have nothing wise to offer aside from provoking people deliberately for no reason.

After what you started with Madmusti

Where he said

Please top talk ,or i must enter here and i don´t want to waste my Time here. The Point where you are start is False ,so maybe come back with more backround.

He criticized your statement..... and you came up with this.

The only fake country is yours here.

By insulting our country for no reason. You irritated most of us. So, you can expect these kind of situations from now on.

 

[al-Hasani]

After what you started with Madmusti

Where he said



He criticized your statement..... and you came up with this.



By insulting our country for no reason. You irritated most of us. So, you can expect these kind of situations from now on.

What the hell are you talking about? That comment of your idiotic compatriot in this thread was made BEFORE I even took part in that debate. Look at when the posts were written. That comment came out of nowhere. A deliberate provocation but you do not even comment on that.

Lastly it is funny that you ignore the 2 first Turkish users in that thread that made nonsense claims and insults about Arabs before even ANY Arab took part.

Oh, I read that as him calling the country false to which I replied in the same manner. Already explained that to you yesterday.

His English is horrible so can't blame me.

 

[Doritos11]

Ok. Tell your fellow Mongol to shut up first then there will be no problem since he started the racism and insults in our section for NO REASON whatsoever.

I’m not Mongol.

Not the 1st time you show your racism here.
Now your going to turn it into drama and typ pages of shit, why not keep it short, save yourself the effort and you quit your racism.

But you can’t, typ the usual shit :

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[-SINAN-]

What the hell are you talking about? That comment of your idiotic compatriot in this thread was made BEFORE I even took part in that debate. Look at when the posts were written. That comment came out of nowhere. A deliberate provocation but you do not even comment on that.

Lastly it is funny that you ignore the 2 first Turkish users in that thread that made nonsense claims and insults about Arabs before even ANY Arab took part.

Oh, I read that as him calling the country false to which I replied in the same manner. Already explained that to you yesterday.

His English is horrible so can't blame me.

There is 2 different Turkish users who posted before you. Kaan and Madmusti.

Kaan is the op. He copy pasted an article, He didn't made any insults.

Madmusti said "Arab betrayed us". It's was clearly not an insult, instead of talking about Young Turk's nationalistic movement and the causes of Arab revolt. You immediately jumped on him. Well, it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[T-123456]

I’m not Mongol.

Not the 1st time you show your racism here.
Now your going to turn it into drama and typ pages of shit, why not keep it short, save yourself the effort and you quit your racism.

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Finally got it?

 

[al-Hasani]

@Doritos11

Dumb kid. Maybe you should see who started this debate here and who made an completely UNMOTIVATED insult here. Also it was you, idiot, that falsely called me a Bedouin (that is apparently not racist) to which I replied Mongol. Now get lost and don't waste my time. You are a stranger to the region anyway that cannot even read or write Arabic.

There is 2 different Turkish users who posted before you. Kaan and Madmusti.

Kaan is the op. He copy pasted an article, He didn't made any insults.

Madmusti said "Arab betrayed us". It's was clearly not an insult, instead of talking about Young Turk's nationalistic movement and the causes of Arab revolt. You immediately jumped on him. Well, it doesn't matter anymore.

That's an insult to us.

 

[-SINAN-]

Only a proposed linguistic connection with the Koreans and Japanese. Altaic is also only a proposed language group. Turkic is the linguistic group of Turks.
Turkic languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's more than that.

To have a similiar linguistic connection between groups. They should have similar background, shared ancestors, came into contact etc... It relies alson on genetic connections.

It was Ural-Altay before. But they removed Uralic languages, as the for the minimal or no genetic connection. Where as Altaic still stays the same.

Ural–Altaic languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's an insult to us.

For you everything is a insult.

 

[al-Hasani]

It's more than that.

To have a similiar linguistic connection between groups. They should have similar background, shared ancestors, came into contact etc... It relies alson on genetic connections.

It was Ural-Altay before. But they removed Uralic languages, as the for the minimal or no genetic connection. Where as Altaic still stays the same.

Ural–Altaic languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once again the key word here is proposed and it just again a language. Means little. Koreans and Japanese have no genetic connection to the average Turk. Just look at all the genetic tests. The languages are completely different as well. You will not understand anything if you spoke Turkish to a Japanese and he replied in Japanese. Anyway not sure why we discuss this.

 

[Doritos11]

@Doritos11

Dumb kid. Maybe you should see who started this debate here and who made an completely UNMOTIVATED insult here. Also it was you, idiot, that falsely called me a Bedouin (that is apparently not racist) to which I replied Mongol. Now get lost and don't waste my time. You are a stranger to the region anyway that cannot even read or write Arabic.

What he said wasn’t that bad. I call you bedouin as long as you call people Mongols, both are not insults but if you view the nickname Bedouin as an insult don’t call others Mongols.

You have no idea how good it is not being able to read that, it keeps your mind clean from lots of shit, sometimes it’s even good.

 

[al-Hasani]

For you everything is a insult.

Ok, so we should call you traitors for betraying us in 1517 and taking the Caliphate from us after 1000 years of rule from the very beginning and for attacking Muslim land? You would not like that would you?

Besides the comments are totally one-sided and ignore history. The Arab Revolt cannot be looked at in a isolated fashion. You need to know about the background such as the Young Turk Movement, that it was part of the WW1 were the Ottomans and Brits fought at opposing sides, that the Ottoman Sultan was just a figurehead back then, that the Ottomans were a corrupted, declining and increasingly nationalistic etc. empire which made Arabs, non-Arabs, Muslims and non-Muslims rebel and gain their freedom back. Many areas already had succeeded long before that.

 

[-SINAN-]

Once again the key word here is proposed and it just being a language. Means little. Koreans and Japanese have no genetic connection to the average Turk. Just look at all the genetic tests. The languages are completely different as well. You will not understand anything if you spoke Turkish to a Japanese and he replied in Japanese. Anyway not sure why we discuss this.

Of course today ı wouldn't understand. I have hard time to understand central-asian Turkic languages.

But 2000-3000 years ago ??

Not just language............ shared language based on shared ancestral realationship.....meaning kinship.

 

[al-Hasani]

Of course today ı wouldn't understand. I have hard time to understand central-asian Turkic languages.

But 2000-3000 years ago ??

Not just language............ shared language based on shared ancestral realationship.....meaning kinship.

Yet, give me one single evidence of Japanese and Koreans having any genetic affiliation with Turks of today and other Turkic people. I doubt that they exist and I have not seen them on any genetic test. Most Turkish people of Turkey are indigenous people that just adopted Turkish language.

Furthermore, various studies suggested that, although the early Turkic invaders carried out an invasion with cultural significance, including the introduction of the Old Anatolian Turkish language (the predecessor to modern Turkish) and Islam, the genetic contribution from Central Asia may have been very small.k[›][137][141] Today's Turkish people are more closely related with the Balkan populations than to the Central Asian populations,[136][142] and a study looking into allele frequencies suggested that there was a lack of genetic relationship between the Mongols and the Turks, despite the historical relationship of their languages (The Turks and Germans were equally distant to all three Mongolian populations).[143] Multiple studies suggested an elite cultural dominance-driven linguistic replacement model to explain the adoption of Turkish language by Anatolian indigenous inhabitants.[72]k[›][140] A study involving mitochondrial analysis of a Byzantine-era population, whose samples were gathered from excavations in the archaeological site of Sagalassos, found that the samples had close genetic affinity with modern Turkish and Balkan populations.[74] During their research on leukemia, a group of Armenian scientists observed high genetic matching between Turks, Kurds, and Armenians.[144]

Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Modern day genetics don't lie. Just like your DNA.

 

[-SINAN-]

Ok, so we should call you traitors for betraying us in 1517 and taking the Caliphate from us after 1000 years of rule from the very beginning and for attacking Muslim land? You would not like that would you?

I saying this.... Yes you can. It not important that i liked it or not.

We would have colliding idead on the subject. And we would debate on that. No need to throw insults.

Seriously, you spend so much time with trolls, you go on defensive and offensive mode so quickly.

Besides the comments are totally one-sided and ignore history.

Which history. Based on whose history. According to Arab vesion or Turkish version. Whose history is correct. Who defines the correct history ?

The Arab Revolt cannot be looked at in a isolated fashion. You need to know about the background such as the Young Turk Movement, that it was part of the WW1 were the Ottomans and Brits fought at opposing sides, that the Ottoman Sultan was just a figurehead back then, that the Ottomans were a corrupted, declining and increasingly nationalistic etc. empire which made Arabs, non-Arabs, Muslims and non-Muslims rebel and gain their freedom back. Many areas already had succeeded long before that.

I already know these....

Yet, give me one single evidence of Japanese and Koreans having any genetic affiliation with Turks of today and other Turkic people. I doubt that they exist and I have not seen them on any genetic test. Most Turkish people of Turkey are indigenous people that just adopted Turkish language.



Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Modern day genetics don't lie. Just like your DNA.

I don't have much knowledge about Genetic and you are using Wiki for your arguments.

The thing i know is. Turks entered Anatolia in 1071 Which were a Byzantine territory. We Depopulated the area and claimed as our own.

 

[al-Hasani]

I saying this.... Yes you can. It not important that i liked it or not.

We would have colliding idead on the subject. And we would debate on that. No need to throw insults.

Seriously, you spend so much time with trolls, you go on defensive and offensive mode so quickly.



Which history. Based on whose history. According to Arab vesion or Turkish version. Whose history is correct. Who defines the correct history ?




I already know these....

What do you want me to reply? A user mentioned my name in that thread and I looked at it and read the replies. Then I decided to reply to things that I do not agree with by posting sources and giving another version of history that many were/are unfamiliar with. That was all.

Also why should I do that? As I told you, Arabs do not even think about that so-called "betrayal". I have noticed that only the Turks are obsessed with it. Ironically mostly nationalistic Turks. The same nationalistic Turks who abolished the Caliphate and made Turkey secular something they brag about often. Contradiction much? Why only focus on 1 revolt in 1 Arab region/province? How about speaking about Egypt that succeeded 100 years prior? Most of Yemen that succeeded at the very beginning in the 1500's or the Muslims of Balkan that rebelled? Why only the Arabs which were just a few thousand people?

Also forgetting about all the Arabs who sided with their oppressor (back then). As I told you there were no revolts in Hijaz prior to the Young Turks Movement getting the power since there were very few reasons for doing that. There was also self-rule much of the way.

Ok, but then how can you disagree with me then? If you agree with me?

How can one comment on that event without looking at history? It's impossible.