Saudi Arabia Cuts Ties With Iran

[Barmin]

This time it's a little different. If we don't want tanks in the Haremain, drastic measures need to be taken; hence, help from other Sunni majority countries.

Do you want Ottoman and Mongol horses ramming in haramain??? So many countries have conquered Arabia since the beginning of Islam. Iranians have no problem with holy cities. We respect holy cities including Mecca, Medina, Quds, Najaf, Karbala Mashhad and Qom more than every Muslim in the word. It is us who are warning the Muslims about first Qibla of Muslims in Palestine! It is us who has protected Najaf and Karbala in Iraq. It is us who condemn saudi regime about destroying of 90% of the first Islamic sites in Mecca and making Mecca a second Las vegas. It is us who condemn wahhabis about destroying Janat al Baghi in Medina where household of prophet Muhammad (sawas) are buried.


Btw where are the Muslims when the Zionist regime storm masjid al Aghsa? (first qibla of Muslims)

 

[Hussein]

Man, I quoted from wikipedia that said that supreme leader of Iran is more powerful than the president and that he's dictator, I base my answers on documents rather than opinions.
I highly doubt that khomeini is powerless in Iran's decisions making, but u're welcome to prove me otherwise

Khamenei not Khomeini

a brief summary:
the leader chooses who can be candidate for presidential elections: that's why no reformist in the last elections
the leader chooses who can be candidate for the deputies : in Tehran conservatives would be small minority but since the other are not allowed that's why we see many of them
the government is chosen by president but could be pressure (like here some elements are very conservative)
elections anyway can be cheated since the process itself is bullshit (candidates cannot check the process, needing to trust the interior ministry) it happened for Mousavi
ministry o justice is not chosen by president but is obeying to leader
pasdarans obey to leader
normal army (not pasdaran) is not obeying to leader but there are elements inside army to check if they can make trouble
and so and so

of course Iran is not democratic , it is a fake democracy
people know it
if it could change and people unite in the right direction, without violence , it would be fine but people are scared of many things
and since people live correctly not very much pressure on their lifes (except if they criticize the leader)
Iran is changing and will change step by step
they are so many smart people even in conservatives

i wish people like Khamenei and ultras will step by step disappear ...
and Iran changes for good

 

[Zek]

Khamenei not Khomeini

a brief summary:
the leader chooses who can be candidate for presidential elections: that's why no reformist in the last elections
the leader chooses who can be candidate for the deputies : in Tehran conservatives would be small minority but since the other are not allowed that's why we see many of them
the government is chosen by president but could be pressure (like here some elements are very conservative)
elections anyway can be cheated since the process itself is bullshit (candidates cannot check the process, needing to trust the interior ministry) it happened for Mousavi
ministry o justice is not chosen by president but is obeying to leader
pasdarans obey to leader
normal army (not pasdaran) is not obeying to leader but there are elements inside army to check if they can make trouble
and so and so

of course Iran is not democratic , it is a fake democracy
people know it
if it could change and people unite in the right direction, without violence , it would be fine but people are scared of many things
and since people live correctly not very much pressure on their lifes (except if they criticize the leader)
Iran is changing and will change step by step
they are so many smart people even in conservatives

i wish people like Khamenei and ultras will step by step disappear ...
and Iran changes for good

For ur own good, I hope it's true.
Like u said, Iran is a fake democracy and thereby doesn't reflect the desires of it's people but the desires of it's leaders.
Iranian people showed that they're capable of great things in field of science and true democracy will help Iran to flourish

STFU clown. Every single person in Iran chooses by people's vote.

Don't tell me to shut up and u're the clown between the two of us, now watch your language boy. Even ur countrymen admited that Iran is a fake democracy so step aside

 

[GBU-28]

STFU clown. Every single person in Iran chooses by people's vote. Head of state, parliament members, Assembly of Experts, City and Village Council.

The supreme leader chooses who can and who can't run for office. You call that democracy?

And he has the ultimate say on every decision.

 

[Barmin]

Khamenei not Khomeini

a brief summary:
the leader chooses who can be candidate for presidential elections: that's why no reformist in the last elections
the leader chooses who can be candidate for the deputies : in Tehran conservatives would be small minority but since the other are not allowed that's why we see many of them
the government is chosen by president but could be pressure (like here some elements are very conservative)
elections anyway can be cheated since the process itself is bullshit (candidates cannot check the process, needing to trust the interior ministry) it happened for Mousavi
ministry o justice is not chosen by president but is obeying to leader
pasdarans obey to leader
normal army (not pasdaran) is not obeying to leader but there are elements inside army to check if they can make trouble
and so and so

of course Iran is not democratic , it is a fake democracy
people know it
if it could change and people unite in the right direction, without violence , it would be fine but people are scared of many things
and since people live correctly not very much pressure on their lifes (except if they criticize the leader)
Iran is changing and will change step by step
they are so many smart people even in conservatives

i wish people like Khamenei and ultras will step by step disappear ...
and Iran changes for good

We have had 37 elections since the 36 years ago, why u think Iran is not a democracy?

 

[Zek]

We have had 37 elections since the 36 years ago why u think we don't have democracy?

When you have one guy that control every decision it doesn't being called a democracy.
u might want to google the definition of democracy, cus u seem abit confused

 

[American Pakistani]

Halwa paka nahi aur Fakeer pehly aa gaye.

That goes for both, i.e. India and Israel.

On topic: both Iran and Saudi govts/leaderships are curse for Muslim world.

 

[Beyonder]

All the Jewish barbarians are happy.... around the world..............their long waited Sunni vs Shia coming to life in full force.............no more obstacle in their way of greater la la Land...

 

[Barmin]

The supreme leader chooses who can and who can't run for office. You call that democracy?

And he has the ultimate say on every decision.

The superme leader only chooses the Guardian Console, and apart from that every single person in Iran chooses by direct people's vote.

President, parliament members, assembly of experts, city and village members, mayor etc...

 

[Zek]

The superme leader only chooses the Guardian Console, and apart from that every single person in Iran chooses by direct people's vote.

President, parliament members, assembly of experts, city and village members, mayor etc...

Wikipedia sais otherwise, might want to check ur sources

 

[KingWest]

The superme leader only chooses the Guardian Console, and apart from that every single person in Iran chooses by direct people's vote.

President, parliament members, assembly of experts, city and village members, mayor etc...

You can vote for a president , MP etc if he already is chosen by the supreme leader. You cant vote on a candidate if he isnt "approved" first

 

[Barmin]

You can vote for a president , MP etc if he already is chosen by the supreme leader. You cant vote on a candidate if he isnt "approved" first

According to your logic in every presidential elections in the US or Turkey tens candidates can compete against each other. But as you know only less than 10 persons can compete against each other in every presidential election. For example in Turkey erdogan has his competes and they are less than 10 persons. Or in the US only two persons compete against each other eventually. For example in 2012 those two were mitt Romney and Obama. In Iran too less than 10 candidates can compete against each other in presidential elections. And those 10 persons who are different parties choose by GCC not superme leader.

 

[Edevelop]

If Saudis and Iranians want to shoot each other please do it directly without involving other muslim countries.

 

[Zek]

According to your logic in every presidential elections of the US or Turkey tens candidates can compete against each other. But as you know only less than 10 persons can compete against each other in every presidential election. For example in Turkey erdogan has his competes in who are less than 10 persons. Or in the US only two persons compete against each other eventually. For example in 2012 those two were mitt Romney and Obama. In Iran too less than 10 candidates can compete against each other in presidential elections. And those 10 persons choose by GCC not superme leader.

In the united states u can run as independant
In Israel arabs/muslims got sits in the knesset and can be elected if enough people will vote for them.
Pluralism is a key in every democracy, thing that both Iran and SA lack

 

[Mo12]

horrible news for india for 2 reasons

1) India has chabar port interest and oil from Iran

2) SA promised to invest 50billion dollars into India