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There were people living and building temples in Arabian penunsila aroun 9-8 B.C.... If thats not ancient I don't know what it is... And there are studies that show this civilization could be much older...

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There were people living and building temples in Arabian penunsila aroun 9-8 B.C.... If thats not ancient I don't know what it is... And there are studies that show this civilization could be much older...

Actually civilizations in Arabian Peninsula were the first to domesticate horses
Archaeologists Uncover Ancient Site In Saudi Arabia - Science News - redOrbit
 
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There were people living and building temples in Arabian penunsila aroun 9-8 B.C.... If thats not ancient I don't know what it is... And there are studies that show this civilization could be much older...

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There were people living and building temples in Arabian penunsila aroun 9-8 B.C.... If thats not ancient I don't know what it is... And there are studies that show this civilization could be much older...

I did not say there were no people living there. There were. But modern civilization started when agriculture was invented in fertile crescent and people invented writing there and formed a centralized government with rule of law. Hunter gathering became obsolete in fertile crescent and that is why it is called the cradle of civilization.
 
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Well actually Arabian penunsila has been home to one of the oldest civilazaions of this world until climite change....

Don't turn this into a savage ancestors thing please... Every nations has its own skulls in its closet... I am pretty sure that First shamanic Turks would disagree with you on progressive Persian islam thing... becasue they were the ones who forefully converted into Islam....
Did you ever read what i quoted in my answer?It shows your ignorance.Read what that fake Arabian Knight said about Iran.
And for your information,before islam there was no major civilization in Arabin peninsula.can you bring me one or two examples of them?
 
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Here is a cartoon on the Turkish Brazilian deal with Iran:


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I did not say there were no people living there. There were. But modern civilization started when agriculture was invented in fertile crescent and people invented writing there and formed a centralized government with rule of law. Hunter gathering became obsolete in fertile crescent and that is why it is called the cradle of civilization.

Actually for your information. Arabian Peninsula have not always been a desert.....So your entire argument is invalid.
 
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1- We haven't. It's Turkey that is the opportunist and claims arbitration for high gas prices. As soon as you saw Europe imposed sanctions on Iran you started whining about high gas prices!

2- We haven't supported the PKK. We launched a military campaign against them before you start. Your intelligence? lol. Don't make me laugh. If your intelligence was able to do such a thing, It wouldn't have given it to Iran, but they would've acted on their own.

3- We still support Armenia against Turkey and Azerbaijan and we'll do the same as long as there's a lunatic like Aliyev that talks about 'Greater Azerbaijan' and as long as Azerbaijani newspapers claim Iranian provinces as theirs.

4- C'mon, don't bring Iran in this one. We know that there are many religious people in Turkey. Especially in Eastern parts.

5- It's about our interests. You do the same too. You can't blame us for that.



1- Turkey could adopt sanctions anytime it wants. Trading with Iran is to the benefits of Turkey and your leaders know it perfectly well.

2- Actually you should thank Iran that it's letting Turkey playing this role. This gives Turkey a good international image. Iran is letting independent countries play a role in international affairs. Is that bad? We've welcomed the mediation of independent countries in Iran's nuclear case.

3- Thank you for that, but many other countries have taken that stance as well, at least officially. In fact all of our neighbors have done that. Don't forget that you're hosting NATO pre-warning radars in your soil.

4- I don't know what you mean by 'vetoed'. I thought only permanent members could veto resolutions, if you mean you said NO to the resolution, well, thanks, but it would've become so stupid if you had voted yes because then you would've ridiculed yourself with questioning the Tehran declaration.

1) It was higher than normal prices I don't give a damn about that actually, just to put it out there.... You are selling a ''muslim'' country at higher price than other ''infidels''

2) It was on Iranian soil.. Did you wanted Turkey to make an operation inside Iran without permition which Iranians did not give after reuqest thats why Turkish goverment told you the where abouts of Karayılan. Iran started to support and house PkK in early 90's and it bite in 2003... Irans support for PKK is well known denying it would be like Turkish deny of Chechen support

3)Than please tell other ''muslim'' brothers that Iran is not a ''muslim brotherly'' nation towards Turkey and please tell them to stop complaning about Turkey betrays ''muslim brotherhood'' while Iran never was a brother to Turkey...

4) I was talking about pro-sharia protests in late 90's in Istanbul and Ankara.. I remember clearly in late 90's that there were Iranian flags in their hands and homes of those people.

5) Number 3.

6) I have never say it wasn't in our interests... I just said something Turkey was critisized by Nato and West...

7) Actually, You should thank Brazil and Turkey for praticly mucking up U.S propaganda... It gave Turkey a good name around world and a fresh breath for Iran....

8) Nato radar came into question after the Karayılan incident....

9) Turkey was in U.N security council in 09-10... You understood what I meant... God you are like Greeks who says well Turkish help in earthquake was just a show and it doesn't mean anything....
 
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The last war to save the saudis they gave $60 billion, if they want to defeat iran they might as well give up their oil wells to the west and crave a chunk of their land to the west for stability.
 
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Did you ever read what i quoted in my answer?It shows your ignorance.Read what that fake Arabian Knight said about Iran.
And for your information,before islam there was no major civilization in Arabin peninsula.can you bring me one or two examples of them?

Majan civilazation... Look for it please.
 
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1) It was higher than normal prices I don't give a damn about that actually, just to put it out there.... You are selling a ''muslim'' country at higher price than other ''infidels''

2) It was on Iranian soil.. Did you wanted Turkey to make an operation inside Iran without permition which Iranians did not give after reuqest thats why Turkish goverment told you the where abouts of Karayılan. Iran started to support and house PkK in early 90's and it bite in 2003... Irans support for PKK is well known denying it would be like Turkish deny of Chechen support

3)Than please tell other ''muslim'' brothers that Iran is not a ''muslim brotherly'' nation towards Turkey and please tell them to stop complaning about Turkey betrays ''muslim brotherhood'' while Iran never was a brother to Turkey...

4) I was talking about pro-sharia protests in late 90's in Istanbul and Ankara.. I remember clearly in late 90's that there were Iranian flags in their hands and homes of those people.

5) Number 3.

6) I have never say it wasn't in our interests... I just said something Turkey was critisized by Nato and West...

7) Actually, You should thank Brazil and Turkey for praticly mucking up U.S propaganda... It gave Turkey a good name around world and a fresh breath for Iran....

8) Nato radar came into question after the Karayılan incident....

9) Turkey was in U.N security council in 09-10... You understood what I meant... God you are like Greeks who says well Turkish help in earthquake was just a show and it doesn't mean anything....

Useless post. All the point have been answered in the above posts. Go and read them.

Also Russia is giving a small discount on the gas to Turkey because it has won other major trade concessions from Turkey. If Turkey gives those trade concessions to Iran, I am sure Iranians would reconsider. Also let's not forget that Iranian gas is more expensive to produce since Iran must get alot of machinery for gas production on black market as it is under sanctions. Russia is not under sanctions.
 
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The last war to save the saudis they gave $60 billion, if they want to defeat iran they might as well give up their oil wells to the west and crave a chunk of their land to the west for stability.

Hey Neutral it's been a while. How have you been?? (I know about your recent adventure here ;) ) but hey nice to see you again.
 
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1- If you do not like the price, stop buying. Iranians are not forcing you to buy. It is free market economy. Communism is long gone.

2- Iran has been fighting PKK like men, sending in soldiers to kill the real terrorists while Turkish air force has been bombing civilians which Turkish state even has accepted. It is the best buddy of Turkey (Israel) that is training PJAK to kill Iranians. What Turkey has done about that?

3- Their support for Armenia is not without a reason. Armenians have a constituency in Iranian politics and they influence decision making in Iran since they have a population there. It is natural for such a thing to occur. Also expansionist terrorist groups like grey wolf and Azerbaijan's dictatorship trying to teem up with America to break up Iran is not helping the matter. But over all Iranian policy is a balanced one. France humiliated you people by making Armenian issue on par with holocaust. What did you do about that? At least Iran does not humiliate you.

4- All muslims support Sharia law. If you do not, make sure you have as little muslims in your country as possible. It is not related to Iran if Turks want to become Muslims.

5- Now on this one you are really a joker. Nabuco pipe line is not happening because Europe is opposing it and not Iran since the pipe line passes through Iran and Iran will be one of its suppliers. It is actually you and your European allies who are blocking it by sanctioning Iran. Go read on the matter more before making such funny comments.

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1- It is good and mature that Turkey did not take part in sanctions against Iran. It shows that Iran-Turkish relations are mature enough that one disagreement on one area does not affect others.

2- Turkey with Brazil did make the nuclear deal as PER THE LETTER OBAMA had written to them. And Iran accepted it out of friendship with Turkey and Brazil. But America slapped you so hard that you have not yet recovered from it yet.

3- It would be great if Turkey does not help NATO to attack Iran and even prevent it since Turkey is the strongest army in NATO after US army. But the anti-Iran radar has put things in doubt now. Only time will tell on this one.

4- Turkey took revenge for the slap on the face Americans had given Turkey by voting against that resolution. Though it had no effect on Iran, since Turkey does NOT have veto in UNSC and the resolution was accepted and sanctions became effective. But Iran appreciated both Turkey and Brazil for their brave move.

Just... Just please...
 
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Hey Neutral it's been a while. How have you been?? (I know about your recent adventure here ;) ) but hey nice to see you again.

Sorry Don't know what you talking about but it's nice to see a saudi here. do you understand that you cannot win a war with iran without western support ? and you should know on how much your saudi kings spent $60 billion to save themselves for saddam hussein.
 
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I did not say there were no people living there. There were. But modern civilization started when agriculture was invented in fertile crescent and people invented writing there and formed a centralized government with rule of law. Hunter gathering became obsolete in fertile crescent and that is why it is called the cradle of civilization.

They weren't hunter-gatherer people.. They were traders.. They trade metals...
 
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Sorry Don't know what you talking about but it's nice to see a saudi here. do you understand that you cannot win a war with iran without western support ? and you should know on how much your saudi kings spent $60 billion to save themselves for saddam hussein.

Cmon man ;) Yeah most people here wouldn't notice but we are pals man. We go waaaay back man. But okay I will play a long for you "Harry The American" :lol:
 
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They weren't hunter-gatherer people.. They were traders.. They trade metals...

Trading metals in 9000 BC? Are you sure? Do you mean trading in future stocks or spot selling? Because Bronze age started in 3300 BC in Jiroft, Elam and Egypt. Before that it was all stones.
 
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