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China has a strong economy and military right now but it doesnt change the past. In 1979 China loosed. Keep this in your memory and dont let it happend again.

We did not lose exactly, but it wasn't a nice war campaign like 1950 and 1962 for sure.

It was the shortcoming vision between the socialist nations.

But today, we still have to face the threat of the West together, and Russia will also soon go back to its socialist root.
 
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We did not lose exactly, but it wasn't a nice war campaign like 1950 and 1962 for sure.

It was the shortcoming vision between the socialist nations.

But today, we still have to face the threat of the West together, and Russia will also soon go back to its socialist root.
The Next conflict will be happen at Spratly and Paracel Islands.
Main battle field include Navy , Air force, "ground to ground" missile.
 
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The Next conflict will be happen at Spratly and Paracel Islands.
Main battle field include Navy , Air force, "ground to ground" missile.

CPC has in fact negotiated with VCP so far, and VCP seems to be more concerned about the revolution color attempted by the anti-VCP groups.

They only have to maintain a stance in the SCS, but no one wants to see two socialist nations to fight each other again.

Guys like NiceGuy is just some immature teens who got clouded by the anti-China sentiment.
 
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CPC has in fact negotiated with VCP so far, and VCP seems to be more concerned about the revolution color attempted by the anti-VCP groups.

They only have to maintain a stance in the SCS, but no one wants to see two socialist nations to fight each other again.

Guys like NiceGuy is just some immature teens who got clouded by the anti-China sentiment.

Why does China care about socialist v socialist? I thought China abandoned these thoughts already? Or is that your opinion?
 
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Why does China care about socialist v socialist? I thought China abandoned these thoughts already? Or is that your opinion?

The ideology still does matter, since the world is now surrounded by the capitalist powers, and the socialist nations will keep losing more ground if we don't keep that in mind.

If VCP has chosen to negotiate and to compromise, and China will still prefer to not fight with them.

CPC is becoming great in the long term because they are now taking a balance between the ideology and the nationalism.
 
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The ideology still does matter, since the world is now surrounded by the capitalist powers, and the socialist nations will keep losing more ground if we don't keep that in mind.

If VCP has chosen to negotiate and to compromise, and China will still prefer to not fight with them.

CPC is becoming great in the long term because they are now taking a balance between the ideology and the nationalism.
I don't fully agree with your assessment. VCP want to side with US nothing much China can do. Dangling a carrot is not the answer because they will eat it and still side with US.

Ideology is a thing of the past. China is more capitalist than some capitalist state.
 
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I don't fully agree with your assessment. VCP want to side with US nothing much China can do. Dangling a carrot is not the answer because they will eat it and still side with US.

Ideology is a thing of the past. China is more capitalist than some capitalist state.

Then that's their own problem.

We are doing our best and already giving them a chance, while if they want to dig their own grave, then there is nothing we can do about it, since trusting USA is like dancing with the wolves.

And you should say that China is more pragmatic than some capitalist nations.

But at its core, China still cares about its state-owned economy more than anything else, so this makes us different from the true capitalist nations.

And Google the state capitalism and the western capitalism.
 
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I think Paracel islands need to be share with other country in order to keep peace in SCS.
 
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Bcz we dont bow down to US and begged for sanction lift even after USSR collapse when China bowed down , accepted US's rule over TW and begged for Yen-Dollar from US-JP in 1978-1979.

Wt China economy going from bad to worse, China is at high risk of economy collapse now specially when TPP deal (which China is not allow) come to reality

China should change the logo to 'u.mbrella ' like in HK now:pop: Man, can I still write 'umbrella' here ??


You're quite the instigator aren't you :nono:
 
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Then that's their own problem.

We are doing our best and already giving them a chance, while they want to dig their own grave.
Perhaps you don't understand Vietnamese. I can break it down for you:
1. They are very proud people and do not like the fact that they were under Chinese rule for 1000 years. Very angry.
2. Their dream is dominate the Mekong Delta than China smashed their dream, they are angry.VERY Angry.
3. The defeat of the US with Russian and Chinese helped inflated their ego thus thinking they can defeat China in a full scale war in 2015.
4. The move of the oil rig by China from SCS, whether intentional or not is seen as a victory to Vietnam--further ego boost.
5. The brainwashing of their history about fictional vietnamese dynasties ruling over China--inflated their ego.
6. China negotiating with VCP officials calling for cooperation is seen as weakness by Vietnamese, ---inflated their ego
7. Believing US will come and aid them if a war broke out with China--inflate their ego
8. Because of 1 and #2, they view China as eternal enemy. Take it one step further. IF they had delta mekong, their next move would have them invade Guangxi or Guangdong.
9. China having a trade surplus with them--angry
10. China know about their back stabbing policy--they are angry
 
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Perhaps you don't understand Vietnamese. I can break it down for you:
1. They are very proud people and do not like the fact that they were under Chinese rule for 1000 years. Very angry.
2. Their dream is dominate the Mekong Delta than China smashed their dream, they are angry.VERY Angry.
3. The defeat of the US with Russian and Chinese helped inflated their ego thus thinking they can defeat China in a full scale war in 2015.
4. The move of the oil rig by China from SCS, whether intentional or not is seen as a victory to Vietnam--further ego boost.
5. The brainwashing of their history about fictional vietnamese dynasties ruling over China--inflated their ego.
6. China negotiating with VCP officials calling for cooperation is seen as weakness by Vietnamese, ---inflated their ego
7. Believing US will come and aid them if a war broke out with China--inflate their ego
8. Because of 1 and #2, they view China as eternal enemy. Take it one step further. IF they had delta mekong, their next move would have them invade Guangxi or Guangdong.
9. China having a trade surplus with them--angry
10. China know about their back stabbing policy--they are angry

Question , Is Guangxi or Guangdong original belongs to Vietnam . it seem china don't have both state in history. ?
 
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Perhaps you don't understand Vietnamese. I can break it down for you:
1. They are very proud people and do not like the fact that they were under Chinese rule for 1000 years. Very angry.
2. Their dream is dominate the Mekong Delta than China smashed their dream, they are angry.VERY Angry.
3. The defeat of the US with Russian and Chinese helped inflated their ego thus thinking they can defeat China in a full scale war in 2015.
4. The move of the oil rig by China from SCS, whether intentional or not is seen as a victory to Vietnam--further ego boost.
5. The brainwashing of their history about fictional vietnamese dynasties ruling over China--inflated their ego.
6. China negotiating with VCP officials calling for cooperation is seen as weakness by Vietnamese, ---inflated their ego
7. Believing US will come and aid them if a war broke out with China--inflate their ego
8. Because of 1 and #2, they view China as eternal enemy. Take it one step further. IF they had delta mekong, their next move would have them invade Guangxi or Guangdong.
9. China having a trade surplus with them--angry
10. China know about their back stabbing policy--they are angry

I know, VCP is also playing with the fire by brainwashing their youths with the ultra-nationalism concept.

At least CPC is much more mature and knows how to control the pace.

If VCP is destined to get backfired by the ultra-nationalism/populism they created, then there is nothing we can do.

In order to dangle with USA, you need to first outsmart them, but I doubt VCP can achieve that.

CPC, on the other hand, has managed to successfully walk on the fire line by outsmarting USA, but this is not a game that everybody can play.

NiceGuy always thinks they can also duplicate CPC's success by cozying up with USA, but no, CPC's success can only be duplicated by CPC itself, not by anyone else.
 
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Guangxi and Guangdong was land of Nam Viet (Cantonese) people, Fujian was land of Man Viet (Minnan, Hokkien) people. Han chinese from North China stolen this land from Bai Yue (Bach Viets) in the history.

In China over 400 million people can't understand Mandarin the language of Han Chinese from North China.

They are Chinese, just like the German people also speak many different dialects.
 
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From the size of their territory and the character of VN's act, snake is the best description of their national image. They can't beat you down, but they hide in a corner, seeking any opportunity to bite you, of course, with poison.

don't do something, is harm to him, you are safe.

They are Chinese, just like the German people also speak many different dialects.

dialects in German (BRD) is different from "dialect" of chinese in China when you don't understand mutually by normal communication.
 
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