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What is their reply when this claim is made?No they obviously don't because Islam doesn't allow forced conversions.
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What is their reply when this claim is made?No they obviously don't because Islam doesn't allow forced conversions.
Don't know @Zibago you've any idea? but i think they would probably deny this they're idiots anyway.What is their reply when this claim is made?
Have you ever considered that Pakistan may need brave "idiots" more than it needs "smart" cowards?...they would probably deny this they're idiots anyway.
So what do you want that we forcefully start conversions of our minorities?Have you ever considered that Pakistan may need brave "idiots" more than it needs "smart" cowards?
No, but to stick to policy over personality, as your political opponent of today could become your political ally tomorrow. Reviewing Pakistan's democratic history it is striking how many important political deadlocks may have been due to politicians' personality conflicts and refusals to swallow pride rather than the policies themselves.So what do you want that we forcefully start conversions of our minorities?
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It looked to me that you were including him in the group, yes.
Again I'm talking about issues like this one of forced conversions. I can care less about their personalities.I think it's better to concentrate on issues over personalities.
The article says the religious establishment is against the law. Don't they know Islam better than you do?
Exactly. Saladin was a Kurd who loved much in Arab Muslim culture, but forcefully rejected many of the cruelties and extremes they encouraged him to practice. I recall two stories specifically: he refused to let boys execute prisoners on the grounds they were not mature in judgment, and he himself refused to execute Caliph Al Adil - also on the grounds of extreme youth.
Thank you. I'm an American but I've had Pakistanis as neighbors and colleagues. Yes, I support open and friendly relations between Pakistan and Israel - and I think these are much more important to Pakistan than they are to Israel, as they are a necessary step in untwisting Pakistanis' minds from decades of ill-logic and militancy that messes up their lives and country.
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what is the view of baralvies on this bill?Banning these mullahs won't solve the problem of intolerance and a warped, largely Saudi/Wahabbi-funded religious understanding in Pakistan.
We have to aggressively challenge this narrative.
I'm working on a film on Sultan Saladin and he had Christians and Jews in his court, as did Hazrat Ali. What's wrong with these crazy mullahs?!
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what is the status of those muslim who leave religion(islam) and what is the punishment ?But those muslims who convert to other religion in Pakistan seek asylum in western countries due to threat from Islamic extremists
what is the view of baralvies on this bill?
what is the status of those muslim who leave religion(islam) and what is the punishment ?
please clear, you are against Islam or against extremism.
This is not India, nobody forces someone to change his religion, all issue is about the age limit .
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First of all I am not against Islam,but against extremism, a big YES. Secondly I do read DAWN newspaper and have come across news reports where Muslims who converted to Christanity had to seek asylum in Europe due to threat from Islamic Extremist. What u wrote is plain stupid. I have quoted your post given below for your reference. "This is not India,nobody forces someone to change his religion.What do you mean by that,please clarify me on that then I will revert back to you.
Again came india ??This is not India, nobody forces someone to change his religion, all issue is about the age limit .