SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[ozranger]

Any Specs on the planned WS-19 engine? Presumably it would be a supercruising engine that could fit the JF-17.

Also, The Chinese purportedly lag behind in sensor fusion (according to this article, but they are probably catching up behind the scenes). Any chance Pakistan can seek that capability from our other suppliers. Sweden maybe one source, but Turkey maybe able to help develop something like that for the JF-17 (They are working with Saab on the TFX, Saab is great at Sensor Fusion), and the experience with the Turkish upgraded JF-17s could give hints to the Chinese companies on how to catch up there as well.

The biggest problem of FC-31 is its positioning in the market. Sensor fusion with narrow, directional data links are already off-the-shelf products in China for quite a few years. J-20 has them all. The prerequisite and the starting point of sensor fusion is an AESA radar. There is no need to implement sensor fusion if you don't have an AESA radar.

 

[Beast]

Any Specs on the planned WS-19 engine? Presumably it would be a supercruising engine that could fit the JF-17.

Also, The Chinese purportedly lag behind in sensor fusion (according to this article, but they are probably catching up behind the scenes). Any chance Pakistan can seek that capability from our other suppliers. Sweden maybe one source, but Turkey maybe able to help develop something like that for the JF-17 (They are working with Saab on the TFX, Saab is great at Sensor Fusion), and the experience with the Turkish upgraded JF-17s could give hints to the Chinese companies on how to catch up there as well.

Lol..catch with who? Europe don't even know how to make a true 5th gen stealth fighter jets. RCS reduction plus adding decent size internal weapon bay proves too much of a difficulties for them. It's more of Chinese teaching them how to make advance thing. Some of the most advance computer, satetille are made in China. I don't know why you think China still need catch up from Europe? Even our Y-20 can easily lift a decent size MBT (67tons) while Europe A400 still the most can lift 39tons payload. Asking Chinese to seek Europe assistance is more of a downgrade than upgrade.

 

[Deino]

Guys... leave out any issues on tanks, helicopters and most of all political BS.

 

[LKJ86]

https://m.weibo.cn/1740979351/4294758429456370

 

[waja2000]

Any Specs on the planned WS-19 engine? Presumably it would be a supercruising engine that could fit the JF-17.

reported on forum WS-19 about 95kN afterburn, future enhance version possible reach 100 KN+, not sure what status now, possible have demo unit in Zhuhai Airshow

 

[Deino]

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https://m.weibo.cn/1740979351/4294758429456370

That's just a copy of the AGM-158

 

[ozranger]

That's just a copy of the AGM-158

As I know this company has no capability in and has not been qualified by the Chinese government for developing missiles. However they develop and manufacture a couple of different types of stealth material. Their product was endorsed in public by Yang Wei, who is the design lead of J-20 as you probably know.

In contrast Wuhan Guide Infrared Co Ltd, which is an infrared imaging sensor developer, bought out a state owned missile factory and transformed it into a missile R&D institute. Hence they got qualified and reportedly started making missiles now.

 

[FuturePAF]

That's just a copy of the AGM-158

JASSM with "Chinese Characteristics"; good platform for kinetic strikes or Jammers just like the USN (The picture in the back suggests this may replace the J-15 as the nest generation carrier fighter)

 

[ozranger]

JASSM with "Chinese Characteristics"; good platform for kinetic strikes or Jammers just like the USN (The picture in the back suggests this may replace the J-15 as the nest generation carrier fighter)

No it is just a FC-31. The company is advertising its stealth material only.

 

[Oldman1]

That's just a copy of the AGM-158

You shouldn't be surprised.

@Oscar @messiach if the PAF wants a conventional ALCM (for JF-17), and quickly, it's right here (via China).

If China provided Pakistan the JASSM equivalent. That changes everything in the region.

 

[Akasa]

You shouldn't be surprised.



If China provided Pakistan the JASSM equivalent. That changes everything in the region.

You didn't read the follow-up posts.

 

[Oldman1]

You didn't read the follow-up posts.

Which ones I missed?

 

[Brainsucker]

Which ones I missed?

You missed that the company is not a missile maker. They just advertise their stealth technology material. The problem of stealth missile is not that they can't make it or not. But about that they are prepared to waste the expensive Stealth material on missile or not; as you know that missile can only be used once.

 

[LKJ86]

Maybe, it is a good news to FC-31...

 

[Silicon0000]

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Maybe, it is a good news to FC-31...

You can say that as very few in this forum can read it