SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[Deino]

The first time I saw FC31 I say it's too small.

Unless CAC can come up with a potent solution for Navy, I think finally FC31 After enlargement will be the advisable choice for our carrier.

Thanks for Your reply and in general I agree with You, but how long will it take ?? ... and even more since this enlargement would be a much more radical modification that from V1 to V2 what also needed alone from 2012 to 2016 !

And still I'm questioning this rumour at all. If You take all rumours for granted, then the J-20 could fly at Mach 3 and so on ... how reliable is this source ?

Deino

 

[帅的一匹]

PLAN is aimed at USA navy. If you develop a weapon can't stand Yankee's threats, it's worthless.

Thanks for Your reply and in general I agree with You, but how long will it take ?? ... and even more since this enlargement would be a much more radical modification that from V1 to V2 what also needed alone from 2012 to 2016 !

And still I'm questioning this rumour at all. If You take all rumours for granted, then the J-20 could fly at Mach 3 and so on ... how reliable is this source ?

Deino

I was quite excited when I hear the rumors FC31 will enlarge from the Shengyang Guy. It's quite convincable.

 

[Deino]

I was quite excited when I hear the rumors FC31 will enlarge from the Shengyang Guy. It's quite convincable.

Again I do not question the idea behind this step, I'm only unsure about the source: Is it indeed a SAC-guy, who already posted previously reliable news or is it plain and simple a rumour spread by a fan?

 

[帅的一匹]

Again I do not question the idea behind this step, I'm only unsure about the source: Is it indeed a SAC-guy, who already posted previously reliable news or is it plain and simple a rumour spread by a fan?

It said he is an SAC guy.

 

[Deino]

Ok ... so time will tell !

 

[MystryMan]

PLAN is aimed at USA navy. If you develop a weapon can't stand Yankee's threats, it's worthless.


I was quite excited when I hear the rumors FC31 will enlarge from the Shengyang Guy. It's quite convincable.

But V2 was already enlarged from V1. So if they further enlarging it then why not use J-20 which is already in that category?

 

[帅的一匹]

But V2 was already enlarged from V1. So if they further enlarging it then why not use J-20 which is already in that category?

I think V2 seems larger than V1, still not sure about the engine part.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Again I do not question the idea behind this step, I'm only unsure about the source: Is it indeed a SAC-guy, who already posted previously reliable news or is it plain and simple a rumour spread by a fan?

if you read the april 2017 afm by alan warnes he confirmed the fc-31 would have a main belly bay capable of holding 6 missiles. and the model would be at the paris air show later this year

 

[Taygibay]

I perfectly understand the considerations, esp. since IMO the J-20 with its delta-canard layout is not the best-suited for carrier-ops (maybe only by feeling),

That the J-20 is too heavy with an approach speed that is too high
is a valid reason to doubt its navalisation but not its layout because :

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The J-20 is geared for long-legged interception anyway;
it can defend from the mainland. Maybe Wanglaokan can
give us its landing speed but dimensions alone would have
it restricted to flight deck without access to the hangars.
It could fit the 22m+ elevators supposed on the next carrier.

I seriously doubt naval use at least for now and "tomorrow".

Have a great day both and all, Tay.

 

[帅的一匹]

That the J-20 is too heavy with an approach speed that is too high
is a valid reason to doubt its navalisation but not its layout because :

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this quacking ⏃ can.
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The J-20 is geared for long-legged interception anyway;
it can defend from the mainland. Maybe Wanglaokan can
give us its landing speed but dimensions alone would have
it restricted to flight deck without access to the hangars.
It could fit the 22m+ elevators supposed on the next carrier.

I seriously doubt naval use at least for now and "tomorrow".

Have a great day both and all, Tay.

J20 is simply too large.

 

[Deino]

That the J-20 is too heavy with an approach speed that is too high
is a valid reason to doubt its navalisation but not its layout because :

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Have a great day both and all, Tay.

Yes, I meant the long-coupled delta-canard configuration. Right after I posted I noticed myself ... however the Rafale has a close-coupled one.

J20 is simply too large.

Not really ... it is not longer than a J-15.

 

[帅的一匹]

Yes, I meant the long-coupled delta-canard configuration. Right after I posted I noticed myself ... however the Rafale has a close-coupled one.




Not really ... it is not longer than a J-15.

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Actually it is bulky?

 

[monitor]

FC-31 2.0 scale model in RF anechoic chamber.

 

[Taygibay]

Deino mate, the dimensions you quoted still
can't answer our elevator query.

For instance, we'd need the all included length
of the base : from front to rear wheels, outside
measurements. To that, you had the shortest of
the two ends past outsides of the wheels and
thus obtain the length that must fit the elevator.

It matters not which end ends up jutting out over
tha waters because you secure the plane down a
lot with slings to the elevator floor. It only matters
if the overhanging section is too heavy (prob. rear ).


The real difficulty is wing span because if 13,47 is
lesser than 14,70, once folded the J-15's wings are
seven and half meters, well within a 9-10m elevator
width. The J-20's wings are fixed.

Hiding that hinge is hard although it was done for
the F-35 C and again points to how unlikely a naval
J-20 is for now.

What's unlikely of course is not impossible.
Great day to you, Tay.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Deino mate, the dimensions you quoted still
can't answer our elevator query.

For instance, we'd need the all included length
of the base : from front to rear wheels, outside
measurements. To that, you had the shortest of
the two ends past outsides of the wheels and
thus obtain the length that must fit the elevator.

It matters not which end ends up jutting out over
tha waters because you secure the plane down a
lot with slings to the elevator floor. It only matters
if the overhanging section is too heavy (prob. rear ).


The real difficulty is wing span because if 13,47 is
lesser than 14,70, once folded the J-15's wings are
seven and half meters, well within a 9-10m elevator
width. The J-20's wings are fixed.

Hiding that hinge is hard although it was done for
the F-35 C and again points to how unlikely a naval
J-20 is for now.

What's unlikely of course is not impossible.
Great day to you, Tay.

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