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You are being unfair to Turkey. The development in the aviation industry in Turkey needs to be researched by you. They built and had the software codes to their own F16s. This puts them at least at level with us if not further. Some of the work on ASELPOD is superior to the Chinese offerings to PAF.TFX will be as good as a paper work, Turkey has no base, experience and technological-readness to develop 4th gen fighter let alone 5th, period !
... but Turkey develops 5th gen Jet Fighter ( will be the best Fighter in the World )
Pardon, I don't know what stuff You smoked but I want some too
If not the the best then one of the best. @Berkant has a point there.
I think the J-20 talk predates the Project Azm announcement. The PAF CAS seemed to be clear that the Project Azm fighter would be an original design. It's also important to remember that the PAF has experience working with CAC, not SAC. In terms of a next-gen fighter, it's possible that the PAF wants to work with CAC, especially since CAC has a serviceable 5th-gen fighter in its CV.There is an interview from Retd AVM zulfiqar mentioning J20. ACM also has talked of PAF evaluating J20/J31. The point is all of a sudden people have started talking about the J20 after having heard that J20 is only for PLAAF.
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I personally think knowing PAF's modus operandi that there will be "significant input" from 3rd parties and multiple collaborators will result in our next fifth generation project. The help will be in nearly all departments including design. The design may be original but will have lots of input from other parties.I think the J-20 talk predates the Project Azm announcement. The PAF CAS seemed to be clear that the Project Azm fighter would be an original design. It's also important to remember that the PAF has experience working with CAC, not SAC. In terms of a next-gen fighter, it's possible that the PAF wants to work with CAC, especially since CAC has a serviceable 5th-gen fighter in its CV.
Absolutely. Original design, but with strong external support.I personally think knowing PAF's modus operandi that there will be "significant input" from 3rd parties and multiple collaborators will result in our next fifth generation project. The help will be in nearly all departments including design. The design may be original but will have lots of input from other parties.
I understand that PAC and PAF is really upbeat but objectively a new generation design with no experience from earlier planes of the same generation is asking a bit too much. This remains my own assessment so maybe totally wrong.
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not unfair, but too much overated by most of you people, their so-called software codes were all wirten based on the architect, coding rules and frames that was done by the U.S, these are the real part, writing extesion and additional mission codes are nothing````even my company can do that, when given the open sourceYou are being unfair to Turkey. The development in the aviation industry in Turkey needs to be researched by you. They built and had the software codes to their own F16s. This puts them at least at level with us if not further. Some of the work on ASELPOD is superior to the Chinese offerings to PAF.
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to amatures, yes they all look flashy, but all of these you bragged are no more than a paper work if not for all the paid data and tech pakages from the West.TURKEY produced under license F16 Fighter Jets and General Electric F110-GE-100 Engines for more than 25 years
Turkey has base, experience and technological-readness easly to develop 4th gen fighter ... but Turkey develops 5th gen Jet Fighter ( will be the best Fighter in the World )
-- Aselsan IFF (Friend or Foe) System
-- Aselsan SPEWS II Electronic Warfare Self Protection Suite
-- Aselsan GaN based AESA Radar
-- Aselsan ASELPOD Targeting Pod
-- Aselsan MEHPOD Jamming Pod
-- Tubitak - Sage SOM Cruise Missile
-- Tubitak - Sage HGK and KGK Smart Bombs
-- Tubitak - Sage GOKTUG BVR and VWR Air to Air Missiles
-- Aselsan TEBER Smart Bomb
-- Aselsan LGK Laser Guided Bomb
also Turkish TAI ANKA MALE Armed Drone ( UCAV ) SAR Radar+SATCOM+Laser Guided Missiles ( only The US,,Israel,,Turkey and China in the World )
also TURKEY started to develop new TAI ATAK-2 Attack Helicopter
-- 6-8 ton class new design
-- 2 x Turkish TEI TS-1400 Engines
-- Turkish Mission Computer
-- Turkish Aselsan Helicopter Electronic Warfare System
-- Turkish MILDAR milimetric wave fire control Radar ... ( 12 km range )
-- Turkish AVCI Helmet Integrated Cueing System (HICS)
-- 8 km Turkish CIRIT Laser guided Rocket
-- 8 km Turkish MIZRAK Laser guided Missile
-- 30 km Turkish TEMREN Missile
-- 22 km Turkish GOKTUG Air to Air Missile
FC-31 is the only viable option so far````at the end of the day CAC or SAC they are all from the same coporationI think the J-20 talk predates the Project Azm announcement. The PAF CAS seemed to be clear that the Project Azm fighter would be an original design. It's also important to remember that the PAF has experience working with CAC, not SAC. In terms of a next-gen fighter, it's possible that the PAF wants to work with CAC, especially since CAC has a serviceable 5th-gen fighter in its CV.
I think the J-20 talk predates the Project Azm announcement. The PAF CAS seemed to be clear that the Project Azm fighter would be an original design. It's also important to remember that the PAF has experience working with CAC, not SAC. In terms of a next-gen fighter, it's possible that the PAF wants to work with CAC, especially since CAC has a serviceable 5th-gen fighter in its CV.
Same corporation with different cultureFC-31 is the only viable option so far````at the end of the day CAC or SAC they are all from the same coporation
I dont see any issue in that``````Same corporation with different culture