SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

[Fawadqasim1]

USA is not selling. f35 to KSA, as KSA is on the verge of the circle of trust. Europe has no 5th gen to offer. Zero chance of getting weapon from Russia as they are supporting Syria government. The only possibility is FC31. KSA knows it's time to diversify its military procurement so that USA won't take them for granted. It's strategical move not just a weapon procurement.

Even KSA didn't invest, China and Pakistan will keep push the project to its final success. We welcome KSA's investment, but it's not indispensable.

KSA's looking east policy will make Benifits for them in the end.

It was Pakistan that China and KSA could become friend.

Absolutely wang bro you have saved me from typing this

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

USA is not selling. f35 to KSA, as KSA is on the verge of the circle of trust. Europe has no 5th gen to offer. Zero chance of getting weapon from Russia as they are supporting Syria government. The only possibility is FC31. KSA knows it's time to diversify its military procurement so that USA won't take them for granted. It's strategical move not just a weapon procurement.

Even KSA didn't invest, China and Pakistan will keep push the project to its final success. We welcome KSA's investment, but it's not indispensable.

KSA's looking east policy will make Benifits for them in the end.

It was Pakistan that China and KSA could become friend.

Pak is the landbridge between China and ME... traffic goes both ways. This goes back decades.

And there is of course Iran factor... besides SA wants to build local defence industry, including aviation. Just like UACVs...SA will cut the development cycle short and buy off aviation capability.

I am more interested in the cooperation between SA, Pak and China in this regard.. J31 can glue these together.

Look beyond just aircrafts... it is military-industrial alignment.

We, however, must excercise caution and let Time unravel mysteries.


I agree with you that PLAN will go for J31. If all plays out...we are looking at at least 700 fighters in the entire life cycle of this aircraft...that means 4 times as many engines.

Production of truly capable Chinese engine en masse is the key here. J20 Tech will find its way into J31.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

They've already spent billions on fighters that haven't been delivered yet.

Which ones

 

[The Accountant]

The thing is the KSA will obviously go for fighter jets from the US and Europe maybe Russia.

US is not willing to provide 5th generation to saudia ... Russia will not as it means annoying Iran which is russia key ally in the region so only supplier with 5th generation is China ... KSA dont have any option ...

 

[Hassan Guy]

Which ones

F-15's and Eurofighters.

US is not willing to provide 5th generation to saudia ... Russia will not as it means annoying Iran which is russia key ally in the region so only supplier with 5th generation is China ... KSA dont have any option ...

Just wait till the Saudi's role over that paycheck.

 

[帅的一匹]

US is not willing to provide 5th generation to saudia ... Russia will not as it means annoying Iran which is russia key ally in the region so only supplier with 5th generation is China ... KSA dont have any option ...

China is the best option

We gave them ballistic missile, why can't 5th gen fighter.

 

[HannibalBarca]

China is the best option

We gave them ballistic missile, why can't 5th gen fighter.

the only...at this stage.

 

[帅的一匹]

China's goal is become number one on this planet, we will strive for influence in KSA with USA at any cost. KSA need China and China need KSA.

KSA dare not bet his stake on USA only like used to be, he knows USA will sell him out any time at some points.

 

[The Accountant]

F-15's and Eurofighters.


Just wait till the Saudi's role over that paycheck.

Not this time us is moving away from KSA

 

[帅的一匹]

A Christian America will trust a Muslim KSA? Never.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Not this time us is moving away from KSA

it's mostly KSA who is moving away of US

 

[The Accountant]

it's mostly KSA who is moving away of US

Thats good for the region as US has made alot of mess in the region ...

 

[帅的一匹]

Not this time us is moving away from KSA

Obama's compromising policy against Iran had pissed KSA off, it's KSA stay away from USA. With China rise, it's not surprise that China and KSA get closer. KSA need to ensure it has better tie with China than Iran.

 

[The Accountant]

Obama's compromising policy against Iran had pissed KSA off, it's KSA stay away from USA. With China rise, it's not surprise that China and KSA get closer. KSA need to ensure it has better tie with China than Iran.

You are right but i wish that somehow tentions should reduce between iran and KSA as it is best for region, muslim and humanity ...

 

[帅的一匹]

China will keep a subtle balance between Iran and KSA, little bit tilted toward KSA.

You are right but i wish that somehow tentions should reduce between iran and KSA as it is best for region, muslim and humanity ...

It fit in the regional interets.