S-300VM Air Defence System will be good for BAF then new jets

[eastwatch]

No one can answer your imagination theory.

What delhi has to loose because of the development in NE? Actually a seperate ministry was created only to focus in the development of NE.
No other regions has seperate ministries in India.

You have not read the part you have marked in bold properly. Otherwise, you are not supposed to answer the way you did.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Ask your AL. Why not she went in War with India to make few poster happy. What India has to do with it ? You have voted AL not we. Isn't it ? Throw her next time and Let see what BNP says on Day 1 of PM Ceremony. @ That time Don't tell BNP is also boot-licker of India after saying to AL

Even though this is off-topic, I'll enlighten you a bit.

There has been a lot of talk about the Pilkhana incident in Bangladesh among all levels of society. It was the darkest day for Bangladesh. Our most brilliant officers were brutally murdered. Do you seriously think that any random Tom, Dick or Harry can just incite a mutiny under the command of the BA's most senior officers?

Trust me, you don't want to know the truth behind that 'incident'. Trust me.

 

[asad71]

Don't give so much importance without any reason. BD is not strategically important for India. If we wanted, 1971 was not bad time as BD didn't even had an army. Today, it can be done in 1 day.
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1.For the record, let me tell you that India did indeed stay put in BD after the 71 War. DCs, SPs and various officers were earmarked and readied to be posted to the Indian province of BD. Subimol Dutta was to be the Chief Secy. And initially Arora also behaved as if they were here to stay.

2. But even before 16 Dec, whenever towns in the outskirts fell, IA faced opposition from the population and Mukti Bahini for looting arms, eqpt, industrial machinery and property belonging to BD. The worst was at Khulna where Maj Jalil was prepared to fight the Indians and forced them to unload the loot before letting off. And the tension was brewing everywhere.

3. FYI, relations between BD commanders and IA commanders were never v good even during the War. BA officers had found the IA lot wanting in professional knowledge, although this is a general statement. Even the lone Hindu Sectror Comdr, Maj C R Dutta would nearly get into fist-fights with them. Col Osmani would never see Arora without the latter making a proper appointment. He had ensured that he received the protocol and respect due to a Chief parallel to Manekshaw. This had irritated the Indians, but the Col was always rigid on such matters.

4. It is a total and bull story that IA was the liberator of BD. They were zero without Mukti Bahini. They would have got a sound beating from PA and probably have had to surrender to them in the east trapped along the Siliguri Corridor but for BD forces. It is a matter of record that Jacob had hoodwinked PA generals to surrender. IA, defeated in 62, and twice in 65 wanted a victory - at our cost. Indira/ USA wanted an end so that Leftists/Communist groups would not emerge.

5. Let me state v clearly: We would have liberated ourselves by ourselves - but would have taken longer. For the third and final phase of launching a conventional assault, we had already raised 3xBdes.

6. And finally, Sk Mujib (BB) during his first conversation with Indira had asked IA to withdraw. And it was done on BB's birthday.

7. As a small nation we must remain prepared. Our history shows that every invader got bogged down in our swamps to be killed at leisure by our partisans. A good lesson for India would be the Padua Battle where a bn of SSB dressed as BSF were sorted out by our villagers. Enemy lost 80, and mostly to wounds inflicted by our sharpened bamboos. It was a hard task for BDR to recover these bodies from ditches, swamps and bushes where they had run for cover only to be discovered and lynched. Luckily for SSB some were rescued by BDR with serious injuries. They were provided medicare before handing back to BSF.

 

[ramu]

All that chest thumping and half-baked understanding of sovereignty. Common BD, do you want to turn the peaceful border between India and BD a headache for both countries ? We have dealt with Pakistan in the west. Looks like we will need to fence the east too.

 

[Zabaniyah]

All that chest thumping and half-baked understanding of sovereignty. Common BD, do you want to turn the peaceful border between India and BD a headache for both countries ? We have dealt with Pakistan in the west. Looks like we will need to fence the east too.

Chest thumping?! REALLY?! Oh look who's talking!

Besides, why are you worried about Bangladesh having a sufficient military? Is there a problem? Its not like we are going to war with you or something. Don't worry, Bangladeshis aren't even interested in nukes unlike India, which armed itself for some strange reason...oh wait! China! No pun intended

Bangladesh has always maintained a moderate foreign policy.

There is already a fence on the India-Bangladesh border.

When the USA liberated Europe during WWII, did we ever hear the Americans telling the Europeans that:
"Hey, ya ppl don't need a military! We'll take care of yur security! And if you do get a military, well...screw ya awl!"

Unless you are a Soviet of-course Oh, what is this? India and Russia are allies! So, it makes sense! Tend to be slippery as eels eh?

It would seem truly misinformed for a country to take in ALL the security responsibilities of another country.

And sadly, Indians stating the they'll take care of Bangladesh's security, Bangladesh doesn't even need a military, blah...blah...blah...is really misinformed considering the volatile nature of the SA region.

If you wanna start off on the right foot with Bangladesh, elimination of the condition in the 7-point agreement in which it says Bangladesh doesn't need a military would be a start

Now quit trollin before we get mad

 

[fallstuff]

Big neighbor is getting scared and acting like a frightened turtle with insecurities !! Fear not, you shall not be harmed, no need to duck, at least not yet.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I mean...what sovereign country in the world would want to be in the present state of Lebanon?

Phew! Phew! Hope I wasn't being too harsh!

 

[ramu]

Besides, why are you worried about Bangladesh having a sufficient military? Is there a problem? Its not like we are going to war with you or something. Don't worry, Bangladeshis aren't even interested in nukes unlike India, which armed itself for some strange reason...oh wait! China! No pun intended

Ignorance. Learn to keep the vents closed on issues you have no idea...

 

[ramu]

Big neighbor is getting scared and acting like a frightened turtle with insecurities !! Fear not, you shall not be harmed, no need to duck, at least not yet.

Oye oye ... thanks. On a thread about what is "good" for Bd, and after a few posts of bravado, a silly set of people think they are scaring India. Congratulations on your new found insanity.

Now quit trollin before we get mad

I thought you guys crossed that bridge long ago.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Ignorance. Learn to keep the vents closed on issues you have no idea...

You mind enlightening this ignorant with your divine knowledge? No?

I thought you guys crossed that bridge long ago.

Nah, I was just joking on that part

 

[Mujraparty]

If you wanna start off on the right foot with Bangladesh, elimination of the condition in the 7-point agreement in which it says Bangladesh doesn't need a military would be a start



is this for real ... officially acknowledged ..?? i though it was munshi writing BS in his spare time ...how can we terminate an agreement which practically doesn't exist's....??

 

[ramu]

You mind enlightening this ignorant with your divine knowledge? No?

This thread has no relevance to what is asked. Start another thread in a suitable section or better look for existing threads that have discussed this to death.



For now : http://www.princeton.edu/sgs/faculty-staff/zia-mian/Pakistans-Atomic-Bomb.pdf

 

[fallstuff]

Oye oye ... thanks. On a thread about what is "good" for Bd, and after a few posts of bravado, a silly set of people think they are scaring India. Congratulations on your new found insanity.



I thought you guys crossed that bridge long ago.

Indian fan-boys are utterly clueless about the neighborhood they are in. Most of the junks they will send our way will probably break down or simply fall from the clear blue sky !! Their mortal enemy is in the west and I am sure they don't want another whipping from the Chinese, who in whipping 2.0 may not be so kind !!

 

[Zabaniyah]

If you wanna start off on the right foot with Bangladesh, elimination of the condition in the 7-point agreement in which it says Bangladesh doesn't need a military would be a start



is this for real ... officially acknowledged ..?? i though it was munshi writing BS in his spare time ...how can we terminate an agreement which practically doesn't exist's....??

India never lost sight of its strategic goal

Some people may argue that India's decision to help in 1971 was based purely on humanitarian grounds, but the reality is that India's decision to extend its wholehearted support to Bangladesh's liberation war was a premeditated one and was primarily based on its own strategic goal of disintegrating Pakistan to undo the changes made through partition. Former Indian foreign secretary Mr. Dixit said, "We helped in the liberation of Bangladesh in mutual interest, it was not a favor," and a senior RAW intelligence officer said, "Bangladesh was the result of a 10 year long promotion of dissatisfaction against the rulers of Pakistan" (RAW: Top-Secret Failures, p: 5 ). These statements from two top former Indian government officials are testament to the fact that Indian help for Bangladesh was not an altruistic one, rather it was for implementing India's own strategic goal of disintegrating Pakistan and that the intelligence agencies of India were also engaged in fomenting unrest in East Pakistan. With their strategic goals in mind, India concluded a seven point agreement with the Mujibnagar government to seal the fate of a negotiated settlement between East and West Pakistan, and to cripple Bangladesh by depriving it of its sovereign right to raise a standing army and to independently formulate foreign policy. Now, for the benefit of the readers let me briefly describe the points of 'seven point agreement':"

1. Bangladesh government will select only those people for administrative posts who have actively participated in the liberation war and any shortfall therein will be filled by the Indian government officials.
2. A joint force will be formed comprising of the Indian army and the Mukti Bahini and this force will be placed under the command of the chief of staff of the Indian army who will lead the liberation war.
3. Bangladesh will have no standing army
4. India will help raise a paramilitary force to protect the internal law and order of the country.
5. Open market will be the basis for trade relation between the two nations and this arrangement will be subject to periodical review.
6. The Indian army will be stationed in Bangladesh for an indefinite period of time but the time frame for their gradual withdrawal will be determined through annual meetings between the two governments.
7. Bangladesh will formulate its foreign policy only in consultation with India.

Indo-Bangla Relation: A Strategic Analysis
http:///foreign-relations/4411-india-bangladesh-relations.html

Questions for you:
Why do you think much of Bangladesh's weapons come from China?

Why do you think that some Indian members here say that Bangladesh doesn't even need a military?

We have stated that SA is a potentially volatile region. Its not Europe or Australia or something. And yet they have a capable military.

If you want an example of the RESULT of outsourcing military and national security matters to other countries, check out Lebanon.

Bangladesh has its right to its own military given the context of the SA region.

 

[ramu]

Indian fan-boys are utterly clueless about the neighborhood they are in. Most of the junks they will send our way will probably break down or simply fall from the clear blue sky !! Their mortal enemy is in the west and I am sure they don't want another whipping from the Chinese, who in whipping 2.0 may not be so kind !!

Are you for real? You don't make any coherent contribution to the topic being discussed. We are talking of Bangladesh and you want to bring China. Mortal enemy, whipping, 2.0, too much of Hollywood. Oh I get it, live in US of A as you don't like the hole you lived in ? What a confused Internet warrior...