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Nation & World | Russia's space-station supply rocket crash presents a problem | Seattle Times Newspaper

A Russian rocket carrying three tons of food, fuel and other supplies for the international space station fell back to Earth soon after launching Wednesday.

It crashed in Siberia, and the thunderous impact rattled windows for 60 miles, the state news agency RIA Novosti reported, adding that there were no immediate reports of injuries or deaths.

The unmanned spacecraft, called Progress, lifted off from the Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan on top of a Soyuz rocket. A little more than five minutes later, the rocket's third-stage engine shut down sooner than it should have, before the spacecraft had enough velocity to reach orbit.

The rocket's failure will have little immediate impact for the six crew members at the space station. It is well stocked with supplies taken there in July by the last shuttle flight.

If a quick diagnosis and fix for the problem eludes Russian engineers, however, NASA and the other agencies collaborating on the space station could face difficult choices.

While the station has adequate supplies, the Soyuz rocket that failed is similar to the ones used to carry crew members into orbit. With the retirement of the shuttles, the Soyuz rocket is the only transportation available at present.

"We've always known this was a risk," said Michael Suffredini, the manager of the space station for NASA.

The next set of three crew members is scheduled to launch to the space station in September, and another three are to go up in December.

Further, the Soyuz capsules in which the crew members ride also serve as lifeboats in case of an emergency, and the capsules are allowed to stay at the station for up to 210 days.

It means that three crew members will probably have to return to Earth in one of the Soyuz capsules docked at the station by October at the latest. Without replacements, that would leave only three people to operate the station, greatly reducing the time they can devote to running experiments.

If the problem drags on to the end of the year, the other three would also have to return to Earth, leaving the space station unoccupied.

Suffredini said the station can be operated from the ground and stay in orbit indefinitely as long as there are no major failures and other cargo ships continue to fly — a Japanese one and a European one are scheduled to be launched next spring.

The problem with the Russian spacecraft could also play into the debate in Washington over NASA's future. The space agency is counting on two commercial companies, Space Exploration Technologies of Hawthorne, Calif., and the Orbital Sciences Corporation of Vienna, Va., to begin cargo flights to the station, and the agency is looking to rely on companies to carry astronauts to orbit, a program called commercial crew.

Congress so far has placed more priority on financing a heavy-lift rocket for taking astronauts beyond low-earth orbit and has cut money for the commercial initiatives.
 
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Russia's tech is in trouble, lacking fund and continuous R&D,

where's the thread Russia abort T50 bird in the air show?? where some members are at issue with my analysis.
 
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now what they eat and drink they can not ask from Neighbors even lolz
 
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Russia's tech is in trouble, lacking fund and continuous R&D,

And here comes the avlanche of bu ll sh i t.

rather than giving ur "Analysis", u better read history of Russian space programme. in space programes world over such thing happens. Just check out Chinese, South Korean space agency programes in last few days only.

@ Kawaraj.. I request u plz educate urself. atleast for the sack of this forum. I hope i am not asking for too much.
 
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And here comes the avlanche of bu ll sh i t.

rather than giving ur "Analysis", u better read history of Russian space programme. in space programes world over such thing happens. Just check out Chinese, South Korean space agency programes in last few days only.

@ Kawaraj.. I request u plz educate urself. atleast for the sack of this forum. I hope i am not asking for too much.

what a good load of crap!

Russia's mechanical failing can be justified of cause we are in a critical scientific world, but do you know over the last years how many satellite launching, air incidents and even boat sinking accidents were there, what're the reasons, do they echo my general reasoning? those accidents in a rwo clearly mean something.

by the way, which word in my post is offending you, or the mass readers. see them one by one.

my opinion is fair enough. it's you should get educated well, make good point, instead of trolling and personal attacking.
 
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to Sputik:

What makes you think you can judge me, you obviously are not even a full member yet in the forum.

learn more before you start personal attacking when you are on board just a few days ago.
 
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what a good load of crap!

Russia's mechanical failing can be justified of cause we are in a critical scientific world, but do you know over the last years how many satellite launching, air incidents and even boat sinking accidents were there, what're the reasons, do they echo my general reasoning? those accidents in a rwo clearly mean something.

by the way, which word in my post is offending you, or the mass readers. see them one by one.

my opinion is fair enough. it's you should get educated well, make good point, instead of trolling and personal attacking.

A little food for thought, Russia conducts the most space launches of any country and has the safest launch-to-fail ratio of any country. Russia has launched over 2,500 rockets into space--no one even comes close to that mark. By virtue of sheer numbers there is bound to be an occasional accident. Some of the rockets that have failed in the past were not even related to design flaws, one rockets exploded do to debris getting into the engine during repair.

And the pak-fa's engine issue that you so much love to talk about was nothing more than a glitch in one of the sensors controlling fuel--the problem has been fixed, and contrary to popular belief the engine never fail, only the 'wrong impute' was given due to a glitch.
 
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A little food for thought, Russia conducts the most space launches of any country and has the safest launch-to-fail ratio of any country. Russia has launched over 2,500 rockets into space--no one even comes close to that mark. By virtue of sheer numbers there is bound to be an occasional accident. Some of the rockets that have failed in the past were not even related to design flaws, one rockets exploded do to debris getting into the engine during repair.

And the pak-fa's engine issue that you so much love to talk about was nothing more than a glitch in one of the sensors controlling fuel--the problem has been fixed, and contrary to popular belief the engine never fail, only the 'wrong impute' was given due to a glitch.

Soviet Union is not Russia, dont steal the glory of Soviet Union.

Current Russia is still preparing their first deep space exploration, worse than the JapJapnese, dont claim u r so superior, u r nothing compare to Soviet Union.

thats the problem, like the Varyag, Russian media say it Russian origin, WTF????? it has nothing to do to the Russia !! there were no Russia when Varyag was built, when Russia was born, Varyag belongs to Ukraine, its Ukraine property.
 
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Soviet Union is not Russia, dont steal the glory of Soviet Union.


Who said anything about the Soviet Union?

Current Russia is still preparing their first deep space exploration, worse than the JapJapnese, dont claim u r so superior, u r nothing compare to Soviet Union.


So the fact that Russia has had and still continues to have space stations is a lie? Is it a lie that Russia holds the record in human space endurance? So what is the purpose of having space stations and long endurance missions? Do you think it might have something to do with---i don't know---space exploration!--sarcasm.

The fact is Russia at least has double the amount of space launches as China yearly and in fact since the Soviet Union callapsed Russia has launched more rockets into space in that time period than China has in its entire history.


thats the problem, like the Varyag, Russian media say it Russian origin, WTF????? it has nothing to do to the Russia !! there were no Russia when Varyag was built, when Russia was born, Varyag belongs to Ukraine, its Ukraine property.

Stop going of topic. The Soviet Union was ruled by Russia, all decisions made were made in the Kremlin. And let me give you an education lesson, the Varyag was designed in Saint Petersburgs by Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau, so it is Russian.
 
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it was built in Black Sea Shipyard so its Ukrainian.:usflag:

"Russia has launched over 2,500 rockets"
ur scientist has all immigrated to USA, so ur "2500" launch record become US record.:usflag:
u cant achieve it again:rofl:

dont steal the glory of soviet union:tdown::hitwall:
 
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it was built in Black Sea Shipyard so its Ukrainian.:usflag:


You denied the fact that the Varyag was of "Russian origin", and in fact it was designed in Russia, by a Russian company--it being built in Ukraine does not exclude the fact that it was a Russian designed ship which fell in possession of Ukraine. Much of the Soviet Navies ships were built in Ukraine because Ukraine had the ports. Similar to the Varyag, many aircraft are built in different countries. For instance some F-16's are assembled overseas, does this mean that a Dutch F-16 is not of American origin. Or that the SU-30MKI is not of Russian origin? Use your head and some common sense.

"Russia has launched over 2,500 rockets"
ur scientist has all immigrated to USA, so ur "2500" launch record become US record.:usflag:
u cant achieve it again:rofl:

This is a grade 'A' petty response. When someone backs themselves into a corner and they have no rebuttals or even anything intelligent to say they resort to weak insults that make zero sense, even more funny is that your claim can not be verified, it's just some petty and juvenile insult.

The Soviet Space program is the Russian space program, nothing has changed other than the fact that it is a subordinate of the Russian Federation instead of the Soviet Union. The Russian Space program still conducts more space launches than any other country by a large margin. And this comment "ur scientist has all immigrated to USA, so ur "2500" launch record become US record" is not only sad and pathetic it is a technical impossibility.
 
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"You denied the fact that the Varyag was of "Russian origin", and in fact it was designed in Russia part in soviet union, by a soviet union company--it being built in Ukraine does not exclude the fact that it was a soviet union person designed ship which fell in possession of Ukraine. Much of the Soviet Navies ships were built in Ukraine because Ukraine had the ports."


i have proofread ur post:tdown:

so the ship is soviet union origin, and fell in possession of Ukraine, and it has nothing to do with Russia, problem solved, end of discussion.
 
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