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Russia's guraantee demands rejected by US-NATO ''We will not compromise''

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Honestly this was just naive demands from Russia to begin with? I am like dude are you even for real? This guy has been fortifying east europe for upto 30+ years now and that is basically their head-quarters. How can you demand them to just pack their shxt and just leave? Russia demanded that they should exit or remove heavy arms from countries bordering them such as the baltics, Finland, Poland and to not include Ukraine into NATO.. All demands were rejected as expected they don't want to cede an inch to Russia of what they hold currently including Ukraine..

White House responds to Russian security proposals
17 Dec, 2021 15:11
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The US “will not compromise” on NATO expansion, the White House reiterated on Friday, following proposals from Russia outlining how it believes Moscow and the West can deescalate ongoing tensions in the east of Europe.
“We have seen the Russian proposals. We are discussing them with our European allies and partners,” White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki told journalists onboard Air Force One on Friday when asked about the Russian documents.
She added that the US won’t accept the idea of stopping NATO expansion in Europe, despite what Russia wants.
“We will not compromise the key principles on which European security is built, including that all countries have the right to decide their own future and form policy free from outside interference,” she said.
Moscow sees the expansion of NATO towards its border as a critical threat to its national security, based on the bloc's confrontational stance toward Russia.
A verbal promise not to move the organisation to the east was given to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev during negotiations on the reunification of Germany. Those assurances were memory-holed after the dissolution of the USSR. In 2017, declassified US documents backed up Moscow's version of events.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, meanwhile, said that the potential dialog should include the alliance’s concerns and Ukraine’s point of view.

 
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Russia was sleeping for years seems like they wake upto a different world where NATO has soldified itself in East Europe.. Basically having nuclear weapons stationed in the suburbs of st. Petersberg
 
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Russia was sleeping for years seems like they wake upto a different world where NATO has soldified itself in East Europe.. Basically having nuclear weapons stationed in the suburbs of st. Petersberg

Putin's goal for Ukraine is not only Ukraine itself but to undo EU and take majority of the fiefdom states of the EU to his side some have already shown signs of collapsing under his pressure and they will eventually crack
 
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Putin's goal for Ukraine is not only Ukraine itself but to undo EU and take majority of the fiefdom states of the EU to his side some have already shown signs of collapsing under his pressure and they will eventually crack
Which states are these that are beginning to crack?
Russia was sleeping for years seems like they wake upto a different world where NATO has soldified itself in East Europe.. Basically having nuclear weapons stationed in the suburbs of st. Petersberg
Well more like helpless to stop it. When the USSR collapsed, these countries all became more or less liberal democracies so they all moved away from Russia which was essentially without a pole itself since it’s system collapsed.
 
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Russia was sleeping for years seems like they wake upto a different world where NATO has soldified itself in East Europe.. Basically having nuclear weapons stationed in the suburbs of st. Petersberg

Russia and China have large army because they need to kill and oppress their own people

all dictatorships have large army to kill and torture their own people

it is claimed that Russia has 20,000 tanks

this rubbish will be wiped in first 10 minutes with a war with Royal Air Force

Royal Navy has 7 x Hunter Killer Astute Class

4 x SSBN The Vanguard Class

and a ultra ultra modern air force and land force, UK doesnt need large army because British Army doesnt kill its own people

Russia stands zero chance
 
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Russia and China have large army because they need to kill and oppress their own people

all dictatorships have large army to kill and torture their own people

it is claimed that Russia has 20,000 tanks

this rubbish will be wiped in first 10 minutes with a war with Royal Air Force

Royal Navy has 7 x Hunter Killer Astute Class

4 x SSBN The Vanguard Class

and a ultra ultra modern air force and land force, UK doesnt need large army because British Army doesnt kill its own people

Russia stands zero chance
Are bhai bas kar😭😭😭
 
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Russia and China have large army because they need to kill and oppress their own people
Russian, and Chinese are completely miniscule to our population sizes.

Chinese police is bigger than our military, and is better funded, and trained.

If you count in PAP, PAP alone will count at a few mechanised divisions with their light armour. PAP has double, to quadruple the amount of training hours in comparison to regular infantry regiments.
 
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Russian, and Chinese are completely miniscule to our population sizes.

Chinese police is bigger than our military, and is better funded, and trained.

If you count in PAP, PAP alone will count at a few mechanised divisions with their light armour.

fake account, reported
 
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4 x SSBN The Vanguard Class
Nuclear weapons are borderline useless against tank armies. 1MT nuke will barely do anything to a tank just 1 km away from the blast.

You need to expend country's entire nuclear arsenal to sufficiently damage just a single tank division on the move.

If Russia just sends its whole armoured force across Europe, there is nothing EU can do to prevent Russian tanks getting to atlantic. All EU countries combined simply don't have enough AT munitions.

Only US forces in Europe can stop them.
 
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A total war in European soil is a good thing from a American interests point of view.

European states should left NATO and fire off all corrupt high rank people inside their states who take orders directly from USA.

If they want to avoid a nuclear war.
 
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A total war in European soil is a good thing from a American interests point of view.

European states should left NATO and fire off all corrupt high rank people inside their states who take orders directly from USA.

If they want to avoid a nuclear war.
Exactly. America has rose as superpower because of two world wars, which destroyed Europe. For sure, US want another one to solve its debt crisis.
 
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