Russian Su-30SM, Su-24 violate Turkish airspace. Flanker locks on TuAF F-16 for +5 minutes

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NATO - News: Statement by the NATO Secretary General after the extraordinary NAC meeting , 24-Nov.-2015




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Yes we had nothing to do with this, and Turkey did jump the gun imo by shooting it down instead of escorting it (though they couldn't have done so in 17 seconds), but they had legal basis, and NATO is Ironclad.

This is the third time they violated our space.

 

[xenon54 out]

You do realize you played straight into our hands right?

Like I said, cat + laser pointer. We will make you do what we want.

If we go by your logic, what did Russia exactly gain by sacrificng its bomber? How is this situation gonna make Turkey to do whatever Russia wants?

Another question is if this is exactly what Russia wanted then why is it lying about the border violation while the Radar pictures show exactly how the bomber is crossing into Turkish airspace?

At the moment it seems like Russia got a cold shower, you are just too delusioned to recognize it.

 

[SiCiSi]

We don't war, we want other countries to respect our border. You are acting like offended eventhough you are the agressor here.

Yeah not really. We are fighting terrorists while you are supplying them. You got mad and shot down one of our jets. All this will do is seal the fate of the turkmen who will be leveled in the coming days.

Simple.

 

[xenon54 out]

Yeah not really. We are fighting terrorists while you are supplying them. You got mad and shot down one of our jets. All this will do is seal the fate of the turkmen who will be leveled in the coming days.

Simple.

By saying ''All this will do is seal the fate of the turkmen who will be leveled in the coming days'' i assume you are talking about all Turkmen, so you are gonna punish all Turkmen because Turkey downed your jet?
Is Russia ruled by 12 year olds or what?

 

[SiCiSi]

By saying ''All this will do is seal the fate of the turkmen who will be leveled in the coming days'' i assume you are talking about all Turkmen, so you are gonna punish all Turkmen because Turkey downed your jet?
Is Russia ruled by 12 year olds or what?

Maybe your attention span is 5 seconds. But the turkmen will be killed for shooting at our ejecting pilots.

Their lives, families, possessions and villages. Everything will be eliminated.

 

[xenon54 out]

Maybe your attention span is 5 seconds. But the turkmen will be killed for shooting at our ejecting pilots.

Their lives, families, possessions and villages. Everything will be eliminated.

You were already bombing them, that what the downed jet was doing exactly, what changed except Russia loosing a bomber?

 

[thrilainmanila]

Nothing. Turkey is too weak to retaliate against us in any way.

dejavu

 

[Oublious]

i want to see what happens next time

So one more tim bangledeash?

Erdogan , doesn't the balls...He is middle eastern ruler, no fire, no traction..just a lot of noises...

He is gonna give you a camel ball in the end. And you will ask for more and more like you do now.

 

[Ceylal]

Yes we had nothing to do with this, and Turkey did jump the gun imo by shooting it down instead of escorting it (though they couldn't have done so in 17 seconds), but they had legal basis, and NATO is Ironclad.

Partly true, in this case I doubt that NATO will get involved beside a message of support to Turkey. That what the spokesman for the DoD has just said in a diplomatic language ....Turkey have already presented her condolences to Russia for the death her pilot. Turkey got the message that she is alone.

 

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urks will be sporting that color , when the first Kh 555 lands in one of their airbases.

You were talking about "Kh 555" Ceylal...

 

[Ceylal]

You were talking about "Kh 555" Ceylal...

They did worse...$20B exchange down the drain and the noose is tightening...

 

[Azeri440]

They did worse...$20B exchange down the drain and the noose is tightening...

LOL , here let me copy and paste a simplified version regarding Turkish and Russian trade for your tiny little brain to comprehend

the thing people don't seem to understand is , just because Russia is one of the biggest partners doesn't really mean anything.
The actual meaning behind trade stands at export to import ratio , the trade volume between Turkey and Russia stood at $35 bil, with export to import ratio heavily benefiting the Russian side.

Russia has lost its market in the West due to sanctions and now is facing a recession , how wise do you think it is for a country in recession to put up sanctions against one of their biggest trade partners.

What Turkey exports to Russia has many alternative markets , from Central Asia to Europe
What Turkey imports from Russia also has alternative markets , but it will take time.

Turkey also has major deals with Russia such as Nuclear Plants worth $20 bil. , now another country will benefit.

even if let's say Turkey never manages to find an alternative market , the exports to Russia make up 0.4% of the GDP.

not to mention have you ever heard of a country in recession imposing sanctions against another country?
from economic stand point even an 8 year old would understand it hurts you more than others.

 

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They did worse...$20B exchange down the drain and the noose is tightening...

Yeah, they stopped buying Turkish tomatoes....what a waste. We will just divert our market to other countries (i.e. Ukraine ) and continue.

Out of $19 Billion exchange, 14 $Billion are Russian Exports. As they proved an unreliable partner we are going to divert our energy imports to Azerbaijan and KRG...they are the ones who going to take the massive blow.

News just hit... Turkey agreed to buy LNG (natural gas) from Qatar.
Katar'la doğalgaz anlaşması imzalandı, vizeler kaldırıldı. - Milliyet Haber

 

[Ceylal]

LOL , here let me copy and paste a simplified version regarding Turkish and Russian trade for your tiny little brain to comprehend

the thing people don't seem to understand is , just because Russia is one of the biggest partners doesn't really mean anything.
The actual meaning behind trade stands at export to import ratio , the trade volume between Turkey and Russia stood at $35 bil, with export to import ratio heavily benefiting the Russian side.

Russia has lost its market in the West due to sanctions and now is facing a recession , how wise do you think it is for a country in recession to put up sanctions against one of their biggest trade partners.

What Turkey exports to Russia has many alternative markets , from Central Asia to Europe
What Turkey imports from Russia also has alternative markets , but it will take time.

Turkey also has major deals with Russia such as Nuclear Plants worth $20 bil. , now another country will benefit.

even if let's say Turkey never manages to find an alternative market , the exports to Russia make up 0.4% of the GDP.

not to mention have you ever heard of a country in recession imposing sanctions against another country?
from economic stand point even an 8 year old would understand it hurts you more than others.

$20B that a lot of money for any country...Stop your silly @ss kissing and stupid leaning to a country for no other reason but for being Muslim country. Turkey action is wrong, acted for the wrong reason and the Russian reaction will be felt ...

Yeah, they stopped buying Turkish tomatoes....what a waste. We will just divert our market to other countries (i.e. Ukraine ) and continue.

Out of $19 Billion exchange, 14 $Billion are Russian Exports. As they proved an unreliable partner we are going to divert our energy imports to Azerbaijan and KRG...they are the ones who going to take the massive blow.

News just hit... Turkey agreed to buy LNG (natural gas) from Qatar.
Katar'la doğalgaz anlaşması imzalandı, vizeler kaldırıldı. - Milliyet Haber

The effect hasn't hit yet...wait for the tsunami..

 

[Jamaal Yelmaaz]

Topic Headline:Russia violates Turkeys' airspace 2 times..
Date:Oct.6 2015

i want to see what happens next time

Nothing. Turkey is too weak to retaliate against us in any way.

Erdogan , doesn't the balls...He is middle eastern ruler, no fire, no traction..just a lot of noises...

lets see and wait for 5-6 month more..then situation will be cleare more..

it is best for Russia to turn from wrong path and cooperate and live with Turkey like a freindly neighbour....Otherwise both side will harm their interests..But the most one is Russia..