Russian Nuclear Sub Sailed off U.S. Coast Undetected for Weeks

[anarchy 99]

@vK_man

Gambit is American of Vietnamese origin, and from USAF.

If i were you , i'd pay a bit more attention to his post.

From USAF?

Gambit is so full of it. He is just a Vietnamese bum. There is zero proof he was in USAF.

 

[vK_man]

lol, another Indian with "connections". You should hook up with Hello_10, you guys can call the whole Russian Strategic Command on us non believers.



lol.....

freebeacon.com
moralliberal.com
moralunderground.com
sallyandsamblogspot.com
theblaze.com
pakistantvdekho.com

First results from Google. I can see how the reputation of these sources would make a simpleton think the claim was correct.

lol, another Indian with "connections". You should hook up with Hello_10, you guys can call the whole Russian Strategic Command on us non believers.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...s-coast-undetected-weeks-2.html#ixzz23hJNunYb

I happen to be in the oil and gas industry which is why I know him.If you were attending oil and gas industry conferences you would find a number of russian geologists,geophysicists and reservoir engineers working in russian , Western and Arab oil exploration NOC and private companies .Same is so in the bunker trading segment where Russians and Singapore traders dominate.Like that you will find a number of swiss,Nigerian and other African oil traders in the oil trading segment.And in the refinery/petrochemical segment its mainly singapore,Swiss or russian traders who dominate ,Though a lot of naptha export is from North America.

But then what I am telling happens to be way beyond your paygrade.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Radar is practically worthless in water, unless you want to use the meters length HF/VHF/UHF bands, and even then its utility is limited in range.

Sonar is affected by salinity and temperature gradients.

Try this = > NAVAL SONAR - Chapter 2

Um...what about the P-8 Poseidon? How does it scan and detect enemy submarines? I'm very curious about that thing.

Also, do ASW choppers have to coordinate with its host vessel to do the job?

 

[Juice]

From USAF?

Gambit is so full of it. He is just a Vietnamese bum. There is zero proof he was in USAF.

He has been to quite a few Air bases I know of that aren't common knowledge outside the business, and knows his stuff...anyone who was American military knows he was...it's not the type of thing let's say...a 14 Chinese kid would be able to pull off. And The Navy didn't publicise that they tracked it? That's wierd...I used to live 5 minutes from the gates of Bangor....and they would surface our subs every time they got a contact to have a CNN press conference to announce it.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Um...what about the P-8 Poseidon? How does it scan and detect enemy submarines? I'm very curious about that thing.

Using its suite of sensors; Radar, Sonobuoys fitted with Hydrophones and MAD (Magnetic Anomaly Detector) mainly. There are some add-ons that are used to detect Engine exhaust fumes (for snorting subs), oil traces in water and even surface temperature anomalies.

Also, do ASW choppers have to coordinate with its host vessel to do the job?

Yes, They do, just to increase the kill-probability; through interfacing sensors and overlapping weapon deployment. Though the ASW Helo can operate autonomously as well, but with the risk of a lower kill-probability.

 

[kawaraj]

I'm surprised that Russia still hold that capability. this is something intriguing.

or just on the other side the USA navy is in decay....

 

[Markus]

Technology is all that matters.

 

[vK_man]

I'm surprised that Russia still hold that capability. this is something intriguing.

or just on the other side the USA navy is in decay....

US military is too overstretched in my opinion.

 

[Audio]

I happen to be in the oil and gas industry which is why I know him.If you were attending oil and gas industry conferences you would find a number of russian geologists,geophysicists and reservoir engineers working in russian , Western and Arab oil exploration NOC and private companies .Same is so in the bunker trading segment where Russians and Singapore traders dominate.Like that you will find a number of swiss,Nigerian and other African oil traders in the oil trading segment.And in the refinery/petrochemical segment its mainly singapore,Swiss or russian traders who dominate ,Though a lot of naptha export is from North America.

But then what I am telling happens to be way beyond your paygrade.

Seems every Indian is in some sort of insightful, well paying position. Good for you, but what were those poverty statistics again?

Your word or the word of an unknown Russian scientist means nothing in this debate. It's all hearsay if you cannot provide proof. But since you are paid so well, i reckon you have the spare time for looking up that info to back up your claim, no? Thanks in advance.

 

[vK_man]

Seems every Indian is in some sort of insightful, well paying position. Good for you, but what were those poverty statistics again?

Your word or the word of an unknown Russian scientist means nothing in this debate. It's all hearsay if you cannot provide proof. But since you are paid so well, i reckon you have the spare time for looking up that info to back up your claim, no? Thanks in advance.

check the book Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines page 185 ,thats where the original statement was. And my Russian colleague did not say much except that it is an extremely capable system and that Soviet remote sensing and ocean surveillance satellites have been very successful in tracking nuclear subs.He also mumbled something about psychotronic devices being useful for such but I could never understand.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...u-s-coast-undetected-weeks.html#ixzz23iCbw04x

 

[Audio]

check the book Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines page 185 ,thats where the original statement was. And my Russian colleague did not say much except that it is an extremely capable system and that Soviet remote sensing and ocean surveillance satellites have been very successful in tracking nuclear subs.He also mumbled something about psychotronic devices being useful for such but I could never understand.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...u-s-coast-undetected-weeks.html#ixzz23iCbw04x

Eh, you link the OP as source?
And as far as the good scientist is concerned....as psychotronic in this context i can imagine only remote sensing, which was extensively tested during the cold war and subsequently abandoned as not "accurate" enough. Meaning sometimes the psychic would draw a correct picture or an aproximation of the target object and sometimes he would draw something completely off.

Since you mention remote sensing and ocean surveillance satellites, you might want to look up what SONUS was/still is. The American NRO conducts satellite detection as well with arguably better tech.

 

[gambit]

From USAF?

Gambit is so full of it. He is just a Vietnamese bum. There is zero proof he was in USAF.

On an anonymous Internet forum, the best proof lies in the content of one's post. In your case, the intellectual emptiness of your posts proved that you are nothing more than a conscript reject trying to make a name for himself.

By the way...

That is me at the end of the truck holding the Hooters girl who became my G/F for a short time. Not a very good picture, I admit, but that should suffice for those who are curious. Those were the good old not so politically correct days.

 

[kawaraj]

thanks to Gambit for sharing those old nice pics.

I see the road sign of 3 mile island. were you there post 1979 or before? (actually I had thought you were in US marine service.)

btw you ex g/f looked nice, should call her time to time or for a reunion.

 

[vK_man]

Eh, you link the OP as source?
And as far as the good scientist is concerned....as psychotronic in this context i can imagine only remote sensing, which was extensively tested during the cold war and subsequently abandoned as not "accurate" enough. Meaning sometimes the psychic would draw a correct picture or an aproximation of the target object and sometimes he would draw something completely off.

Since you mention remote sensing and ocean surveillance satellites, you might want to look up what SONUS was/still is. The American NRO conducts satellite detection as well with arguably better tech.

No psychotronics is a different field itself from what I read online much more than remote viewing or psychics.And you are talking about remote viewing.And you must consider the algorithms and the use of the instrumentation and what is its purpose.Not everything which is in official verse is right.

Russians were first to deploy a satellite based tracking system ,followed by Americans who after recieving reports started their own work.One thing most important is the heat bloom which is the variation in ocean temperatures,the wake is a good indicator but not accurate .After that other sensors come to play.He did say that Almaz-1(launched in 1991) was one of the satellites capable of doing this.He also said there were other satellites under Soviet General Staff which had such capabilities to triangulate position of american subs with some accuracy and use launch tactical nuclear warheads via means of cruise missiles ,bombers or Ballistic missiles.But he said it is not accurate enough to do the same feat with conventional cruise missiles as extreme accuracy would be required. He did not give me any more detail,but I wish to know more on this.

Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines - Norman Polmar, Kenneth J. Moore - Google Books

which is also why I asked Arzamas whether he has knowledge of any development in case he reads military journals.

 

[SinoChallenger]

Well somebody's gotta do the sanitary engineering.