Russian Navy Spots Foreign Submarine near Russia-Japan Border

[terranMarine]

Nice graph, my dear Terran.

PLAN would turn Japanese Naval to sushi

 

[Aepsilons]

PLAN would turn Japanese Naval to sushi

You're welcome to try, sweetheart.

 

[terranMarine]

You're welcome to try, sweetheart.

When the time comes my dear nipponjin

 

[Aepsilons]

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

How many subs does PLAN operate currently?

No less than 15 nuclear subs.

Type 091G: 403/404/405
Type 092G: 406
Type 093: 6 boats
Type 094: 6 boats
Type 095: lead boat commissioned on August 1st 2014
Type 096: lead boat commissioned on August 1st 2014

As for the AIP subs, PLAN recently has commissioned more than 15 improved variants of the Type 041 subs (NATO code known as Yuan).

 

[terranMarine]

No less than 15 nuclear subs.

Type 091G: 403/404/405
Type 092G: 406
Type 093: 6 boats
Type 094: 6 boats
Type 095: lead boat commissioned on August 1st 2014
Type 096: lead boat commissioned on August 1st 2014

As for the AIP subs, PLAN recently has commissioned more than 15 improved variants of the Type 041 subs (NATO code known as Yuan).

keep pumping our muscle

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

keep pumping our muscle

That's still not enough, and they are going to open a second production line for the SSN, which can accelerate the expansion of our nuclear sub fleet.

 

[mike2000]

The Russians will fold in this current situation. The Remilitarization of Japan will lead to greater forrays into our claimed territories. This is a reality that the Russians will simply have to get used to.

And I agree with you that Putin wouldn't dare touch the nuclear button. A nuclear attack on Japan would invite the Wrath of the United States Nuclear Response. Not something that Russia, Japan, America or the rest of the world would want.
This is why there will be no nuclear response.

Any conflict in North East Asia would be conventional.

I agree with nihonji. I find it funny that Chinese/Russian members on here keep talking about nuking Japan. Lol
Lets not be emotional bro. Our politicians arent stupid to know that a nuclear attack from any country will invite the wrath of the whole international community and yes in that case the U.S will intervene since nuking japan will be too much to ignore unlike ukraine situation. So there wont be any nuclear conflict just because of some little islands. It will all be conventional.
Japan has a large/powerful/advanced navy backed by the world's supreme power the U.S who is still seceral decades ahead of any country that comes second. So it will be difficult for Russia to defeat japan in sucj a scenario. However we never know until an actual war starts who will be the winner. Japan might look mightier than Russia, but they can still lose. Its not always about official naval might, but also strategy. For example Russias navy in 1905 was way more powerful than japan (on paper). But still they were completely wiped out by japan. In fact their fast defeat even surprised the west and japan itself.lol
I do understand that Chinese, Indian, vietnamese members might tend to favour Russia in their comments on here, giving their reliance in Russian soviet era weapons. But they should try and be realistic and stop talking about nuking japan since that wont happen.
By the way talking about Vietnam. I would like to know where my good vietnamese members stand on this. In the even of conflict between Russia and Japan who will Vietnam support?

 

[xunzi]

I agree with nihonji. I find it funny that Chinese/Russian members on here keep talking about nuking Japan. Lol
Lets not be emotional bro. Our politicians arent stupid to know that a nuclear attack from any country will invite the wrath of the whole international community and yes in that case the U.S will intervene since nuking japan will be too much to ignore unlike ukraine situation. So there wont be any nuclear conflict just because of some little islands. It will all be conventional.
Japan has a large/powerful/advanced navy backed by the world's supreme power the U.S who is still seceral decades ahead of any country that comes second. So it will be difficult for Russia to defeat japan in sucj a scenario. However we never know until an actual war starts who will be the winner. Japan might look mightier than Russia, but they can still lose. Its not always about official naval might, but also strategy. For example Russias navy in 1905 was way more powerful than japan (on paper). But still they were completely wiped out by japan. In fact their fast defeat even surprised the west and japan itself.lol
I do understand that Chinese, Indian, vietnamese members might tend to favour Russia in their comments on here, giving their reliance in Russian soviet era weapons. But they should try and be realistic and stop talking about nuking japan since that wont happen.
By the way talking about Vietnam. I would like to know where my good vietnamese members stand on this. In the even of conflict between Russia and Japan who will Vietnam support?

LOL So everything comes down to the US of A, isn't it? This is why I kept telling people that Japan is like a puppy barking at the Russian bear because he got an Alaska bear behind him. Japan looks tough and talk tough like our Nihon friend here because he knows the US will come to save his country *** if they got in trouble. The truth is a direct one vs one, my money is on Russia. Why? The Falkland War. Nuclear Submarine and aircraft was the MAIN weapon that decided that war. Here, Russia have overwelming advantage on submarine and their Su-35 is simply the best non-5th generation aircraft, period. With Russia sub and Su-35, every surface vessel from Japan will be sink before they even approach on the high sea.

Then I bet Japan will cry to their American daddy and in that case, a nuclear exchange is the only outcome. Winner: China. WE LOVE THE TOUGH TALK from our puppy Japan. LOL

 

[terranMarine]

That's still not enough, and they are going to open a second production line for the SSN, which can accelerate the expansion of our nuclear sub fleet.

That's good news, the more the better

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LOL So everything comes down to the US of A, isn't it? This is why I kept telling people that Japan is like a puppy barking at the Russian bear because he got an Alaska bear behind him. Japan looks tough and talk tough like our Nihon friend here because he knows the US will come to save his country *** if they got in trouble. The truth is a direct one vs one, my money is on Russia. Why? The Falkland War. Nuclear Submarine and aircraft was the MAIN weapon that decided that war. Here, Russia have overwelming advantage on submarine and their Su-35 is simply the best non-5th generation aircraft, period. With Russia sub and Su-35, every surface vessel from Japan will be sink before they even approach on the high sea.

Then I bet Japan will cry to their American daddy and in that case, a nuclear exchange is the only outcome. Winner: China. WE LOVE THE TOUGH TALK from our puppy Japan. LOL

The US will never have a nuclear exchange with Russia for the behalf of Japan.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That's still not enough, and they are going to open a second production line for the SSN, which can accelerate the expansion of our nuclear sub fleet.

Nuclear submarines will be the most important naval asset for us.

Surface fleets stand no chance against hit-and-run attacks from submarines firing long range anti-ship cruise missiles. Anti-submarine warfare is like anti-missile shields, the success probability is very low, defending against missiles and submarines will never be "cost effective" compared to the other side.

The US will never have a nuclear exchange with Russia for the behalf of Japan.

True, countries will always take care of their own interests first.

We've seen the USA having MANY chances to enter a fight against Russia, in Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2014 (they also had a chance to fight China in Scarborough 2012). In all cases they signed treaties or made promises that would have allowed/obligated them to enter the fight.

But they never do. They won't risk a nuclear apocalypse for some foreigners, no way. Plus, America is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons on a civilian population, so even they can see how ridiculous it is. If they are serious they should punish themselves first.

 

[VelocuR]

Yes, we have, and I'm sure we still do.

Russia seizes Japan research whaling ship in Sea of Okhotsk

August 22 2014

Russia has seized a Japanese research whaling ship in the Sea of Okhotsk on suspicion of intruding into Russian territorial waters, government sources said on Friday.

The 712-ton Shonan Maru No. 2 left Japan on Aug. 8 to examine whales in the Sea of Okhotsk at the request of the government-linked Fisheries Research Agency.

Russian authorities say the patrol ship failed to notify them of a change in its planned route. The research was originally set to take place in Russia’s exclusive economic zone but the ship intruded into Russian territorial waters, the sources said.

The skipper and crew members of the ship have been questioned by Russian authorities since Aug. 15 on a voluntary basis while the Shonan Maru No. 2 sits anchored at a Russian port, said the agency, which is part of the Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Ministry.

The ship used to accompany Japan’s research whaling fleet on trips to the Southern Ocean but has been conducting a visual survey of whales in accordance with plans worked out by the International Whaling Commission.

The skipper is believed to have refused to admit the ship intruded into Russian territorial waters, the sources added.

Russia seizes Japan research whaling ship in Sea of Okhotsk | The Japan Times

 

[terranMarine]

Just how long does the Japanese plan on using research as an excuse for whale consumption? The world support protecting whales and Japan drive to send them to extinction.

 

[Beidou2020]

Russia's nuclear sub fleet has the overwhelming advantage, the JMSDF doesn't stand a chance.

Most of the Japanese surface fleet are frigates. What China considers as frigates, the Japs consider it as destroyers.

Japanese subs are beyond a joke.