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Why all current front line Russian aircraft have twin tails? What is the advantage of such a design?

Analysis & Opinion | The Great Debate
Russia’s air corps is a powerful but fading force
By Robert Beckhusen

March 18, 2015



Russia has a lot of catching up to do. The Kremlin now considers modernizing its air force a top priority. This isn’t just acquiring new, modern warplanes but also upgrading existing ones. In 2014, Russia spent more than a billion dollars on newer avionics and electronic warfare systems, which can allow Russian jets to more effectively flood radars and enemy jets with electromagnetic energy.

Among these problems is that Russia’s domestic industry has serious shortcomings when it comes to building microelectronics. These components are less glamorous than airframes and missiles, which Russia builds quite well, but crucial to modern fighters. The technology enables lethal advantages like night vision and thermal imaging systems.

The article does raise some good points and it will be helpful if our Russian members can put some light on it.

How good is Russia's microelectronics industry?

For modern jets are not just engine and airframe, its the radar and other electronics which make it modern.

 

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How good is Russia's microelectronics industry?.

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by posting one pic you proved nothing,my intention here was not to prove superiority of Russian design or anything but rather technical,your intentions seems to be exactly opposite.here are few pics of F-22 and 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Here you can see curvy designs or bulges/protrusions near rear landing gear(F-22,pics is in next post) and tailplane,it's designed in way that it does not affect stealth characteristic of plane in a big way and in F-35 these things are much more evident here you can clearly see curvy designs on underbelly of F-35 and lot more protrusions are evident on it.it has very thick wing root.The Americans are pioneers in the field of stealth technology don't you think their designers would've thought about these things.If these things were much of problem do you think Turkey would've invested heavily in F-35 program.The F-22 is more stealthy plane than both F-35 and PAKFA design wise and hence it has much more clean underbelly than the other two planes,maybe @gambit sir can help you.I used(beloved) word not to demean or insult anyone or anything,i used it as general reference for the two american stealth plane nothing else.I would advice you to reply decently rather than getting personal otherwise no need to reply back.Don't be biased,which is clearly visible by your posts on other threads also.Personal disliking shouldn't led to bias or bashing others product due to personal hatred.What has Slumdog Millionaire to do anything with this thread?rather i think you are in dire need to invest in glasses instead of me and i would suggest you better consult an optometrist.Hope you got your million dollar answer.

 

[maniac@666]

@Kamil_baku and here one more pic of F-35

and one of F-22

 

[Kamil_baku]

Im actually told that these curvy design is actually bad for being stealth as it sends back different angle of radar signals..
but actually even f35 has little bit of it..

@Kamil_baku 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by posting one pic you proved nothing,my intention here was not to prove superiority of Russian design or anything but rather technical,your intentions seems to be exactly opposite.here are few pics of F-22 and 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Here you can see curvy designs or bulges/protrusions near rear landing gear(F-22,pics is in next post) and tailplane,it's designed in way that it does not affect stealth characteristic of plane in a big way and in F-35 these things are much more evident here you can clearly see curvy designs on underbelly of F-35 and lot more protrusions are evident on it.it has very thick wing root.The Americans are pioneers in the field of stealth technology don't you think their designers would've thought about these things.If these things were much of problem do you think Turkey would've invested heavily in F-35 program.The F-22 is more stealthy plane than both F-35 and PAKFA design wise and hence it has much more clean underbelly than the other two planes,maybe @gambit sir can help you.I used(beloved) word not to demean or insult anyone or anything,i used it as general reference for the two american stealth plane nothing else.I would advice you to reply decently rather than getting personal otherwise no need to reply back.Don't be biased,which is clearly visible by your posts on other threads also.Personal disliking shouldn't led to bias or bashing others product due to personal hatred.What has Slumdog Millionaire to do anything with this thread?rather i think you are in dire need to invest in glasses instead of me and i would suggest you better consult an optometrist.Hope you got your million dollar answer.

Well well well... These are not even F22, its is F35(only 1 last pic of f22), which i mentioned above that even f35 has little bit of it! Thats the reason Turkey, Korea, Japan, try to build their own jet, because there are not fully satisfied with the program..
I will be very simple mr Maniac! show me a single picture of F22 that has these curves??
let me me tell you that it is very important not to have one as it sends back radar signals in many direction and simply reduce its stealthiness..

Turkey Gained a lot of experience from F35...
TAI Delivers First Center Fuselage to Northrop Grumman Under JSF/F-35 Program | F-35 Lightning II Turkey is only second country after USA which will develop center fuselage and the production will continue until 2040.
Turkey to be maintenance center for F35 - Daily Sabah
TURKEY TO BE MAINTENANCE CENTER FOR F35
Turkey will produce parts for f135 engine
Factory in Turkey to build F-35 jet engine parts | General | Worldbulletin News
thise Kale engine company has also developed Turkish design jet engine for Turkish stand of missile (SOM).
Turkey will also develop SOM-j, which they might sell to all f35 users to carry this weapon inside of f35, to attack land targets..
Lockheed Martin Teams with Roketsan of Turkey on New Standoff Missile for the F-35 · Lockheed Martin

I can write you more... more than 10 billion will stay in Turkey with these production if turkey agree to purchase 117 f35, which is a sweet deal, and also lots of experience for those engineer which will work for at least 20 years..

I wrote this to answer your question! im not biased here, otherwise i wouldnt visit this post, and i just want to have a nice discussion, which is hard. You better learn how to discuss something peacefully..

 

[Barmaley]

Some new helicopters were delivered to air force yestarday:
Ansat-U

and 9 Ka-226.80

 

[Barmaley]

Third Il-76MD-90A going to be delivered to Air Force since beginning of production. According to plans, in 2015 air force should received 3 new built IL-76MD-90A

 

[Barmaley]

 

[IrbiS]

YAK-130

 

[Prechko]

Чистопрудов Дмитрий - 305м и 600мм

 

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[truthseeker2010]

does anybody have the video of Russian swifts and knights performing at last week's parade?

 

[vostok]

Yak-130 over Moscow.

does anybody have the video of Russian swifts and knights performing at last week's parade?

There was no performance, they just flew over the Red Square.

 

[Barmaley]

Su-34 with Side-Looking Airborne Radar (SLAR) "Sich".