Russia wants India's EVM technology for its 2018 presidential election

[randomradio]

Not needed.
Just improving the awarenesses will do

Okay, so it's not a problem with the EVMs themselves.

You said: Problem with evm's is in places with illiterate people.

Cheers.

 

[axisofevil]

The Russians will tamper and find loopholes in it to exploit, then it can do irreparable damage to Indian elections especially if it chooses to pass this info along...

 

[Tshering22]

The Russians will tamper and find loopholes in it to exploit, then it can do irreparable damage to Indian elections especially if it chooses to pass this info along...

Russians don't need to.

Their political system of democracy is not limited to being the western puppy boy.

The system they follow has always been there. The president is the Czar and vice versa.

If you think that anyone would replace Putin till he is alive, you must be dreaming.

Also, with the kind of situation Russia is in, only someone like Putin can steer it clear.

Namby pambies like Kasparov and Zyuganov will only screw the country worse than ever.

It is a hardy country with different set of rules; which they know and follow.

Unlike our country which kisses European behinds when it comes to 'following democracy'.

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Though the videos posted above are being used for propaganda don't warrant a reply but this is for others who have the logical thinking.
1.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/...of-poll-panel-no-fault-with-evm/1/918424.html
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/election-commission-gives-clean-chit-to-bhind-evm-4604444/
http://www.news18.com/news/india/no-tampering-with-evm-found-in-madhya-pradesh-says-ec-1369708.html

2.
second video is propaganda video. Check from what time statements have been edited and added in video. Even then it only mentions the malfunction in EVM, not fraud or malpractices which is simple but still not understood by many. How old that video part is and how it is misused.

3.
What factual or evidence was produced by Mayawati, next to zero. Let someone come with real facts, not political statements. Just listen to her blabbering.

4.
On Swami's claim that EVM micro controller is installed in Japan, so it might be used for malpractices is nothing but disinformation. My previous post just explains that.

Thank you.

Someone literally took 1st April fool by EVM as actual malpractices!!!!

Advani, Subramanium swami, Mayawati and many other political parties has raised finger on that.. you are only satisfying yourself with these useless arguments...

How can a candidate get zero vote? This happens only in India..
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...not-register-my-vote/articleshow/57383987.cms

These lies already been Exposed & Debunked.

These are lies only for you.. many believes that EVM can be manipulated...
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...not-register-my-vote/articleshow/57383987.cms

The tampering myth is long busted by the Election Commission of India.

It is tamper-free.

Our media has political factions and their reporting depends on who is paying them.

These days it is so ridiculous that I would recommend you to see DD News rather than these private channels.



EVMs are not some complex computer systems that are 'hackable'.

They are just analogous systems designed to take inputs based on what is pressed and all of it is a unit count.

Why do you think everyone is so interested in EVMs from around the world?

Think.

For you from US

 

[T-Rex]

Russia wants India's EVM technology for its 2018 presidential election
Delhi's close partner Russia is seeking to learn from India's experience in conducting smooth polls through EVMs — this, at atime, when the Opposition in India has raised the possibility of EVM tampering in the recently-concluded Assembly polls in five states.
Moscow, it has been learnt, is keen to learn from India's EVM technology experience ahead of the March 2018 presidential polls when Vladimir Putin will seek re-election.
Russia will also assist India in developing state-of-the-art tabulation system for counting of votes, according to persons familiar with the development. This system will also help Indian officials to obtain faster region-wise and group-wise polling patterns.
Nikolai Levichev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian election commission, in fact, visited Uttarakhand during the Assembly polls to get a first-hand experience of voting through EVMs. He later held wide-ranging consultations in Delhi with senior officials across ministries for cooperation regarding sharing best practices and learning from the EVM technology, informed one of the persons quoted above.
During his trip to India, Levichev visited Uttarakhand and closely monitored the electioneering process in four other states. Levichev, according to officials here, was impressed with the functioning of EVMs (that reduces the role of human factor) and has been keen to incorporate the technology for the Russian polls.
The presidential elections will be a mammoth exercise across Russia and the country's Election Commission wants to ensure smooth functioning of the polls through the EVM technology, said another person familiar with the development.
This is not first time that Indian Election Commission's service is being sought by a friendly partner. In 2014, when Afghanistan fell short of ballot papers due to overwhelming response of voters during the presidential polls, India had supplied Kabul's election body with additional ballot papers.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...of-votes-in-exchange/articleshow/58017863.cms

It is because with the help of this technology elections can be rigged without being exposed! Very soon all despots of the world will seek this technology.

 

[Star Expedition]

No Indian technology, no Russian president

 

[RISING SUN]

It is because with the help of this technology elections can be rigged without being exposed! Very soon all despots of the world will seek this technology.

Sir on the contrary, with this kind of secured and standalone system voters get the confidence of their rights while not getting bullied. EVMs in the rest of world didn't work out simply because they were part of big network, so they were easily hacked. However in this case it's not connected to even adjecent machine, how will anybody hack it. There is not network connection, there is no port connection, no nothing. It's simple but clear cut Machine. To manipulate this person will have to do it physically for which again there is check & balance in place. There is only one way it can be manipulated is when it election commission itself manipulates it like it has happened in some dictators rule. Is that what you are proposing? If that is so, then again there is no other way to ensure transperamcy. If you have any suggestions pls let us Know. Thank you.

Advani, Subramanium swami, Mayawati and many other political parties has raised finger on that.. you are only satisfying yourself with these useless arguments...

How can a candidate get zero vote? This happens only in India..
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...not-register-my-vote/articleshow/57383987.cms


These are lies only for you.. many believes that EVM can be manipulated...
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...not-register-my-vote/articleshow/57383987.cms


For you from US

All political parties on losing end need straws to clutch on. Nothing new there.and you missed the main point which I had given for gen 1 machines.

 

[patman]

good to see the western powers relying on Indians technology

 

[SMASTER]

Why bother with election when everyone knows its a sham election.People can bet safely who is gonna win.

 

[xenon54 out]

Im sceptical of EVM systems, how will you successfully prevent hacking?

 

[T-Rex]

Sir on the contrary, with this kind of secured and standalone system voters get the confidence of their rights while not getting bullied. EVMs in the rest of world didn't work out simply because they were part of big network, so they were easily hacked. However in this case it's not connected to even adjecent machine, how will anybody hack it. There is not network connection, there is no port connection, no nothing.

When the machine comes in contact with its human handlers it's no longer isolated. A machine is only as good as its operators. Don't underestimate the ability of the humans to overcome a machine because humans invent them. There never was a full proof machine and there never will be. It's all about having or breaking the codes.

 

[RISING SUN]

Im sceptical of EVM systems, how will you successfully prevent hacking?

Sir, hacking can be only done if EVM machine or it's storage is connected to network as in case of other nations EVM systems. However in Indian election commission, all EVMs are standalone system without any sort of network, without any port connection facility.

When the machine comes in contact with its human handlers it's no longer isolated. A machine is only as good as its operators. Don't underestimate the ability of the humans to overcome a machine because humans invent them. There never was a full proof machine and there never will be. It's all about having or breaking the codes.

If that's the case then I suppose any sort of election system will fail in any corner of world and democracy will not succeed.

 

[T-Rex]

Sir, hacking can be only done if EVM machine or it's storage is connected to network as in case of other nations EVM systems. However in Indian election commission, all EVMs are standalone system without any sort of network, without any port connection facility.


If that's the case then I suppose any sort of election system will fail in any corner of world and democracy will not succeed.

Elections came before the EVM system. The good old ballot papers and counting the votes manually in front of polling agents and CCTV are good enough if the executive branch has the willingness to employ them honestly.

 

[RISING SUN]

Elections came before the EVM system. The good old ballot papers and counting the votes manually in front of polling agents and CCTV are good enough if the executive branch has the willingness to employ them honestly.

Even if executive branch is honest, political parties will have options of doing fraud as has been happening in past. Now with automated machines that malpractice can't be forced. Please refer to previous elections for reference. If you require, I can also share the same. Thank you.

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Sir on the contrary, with this kind of secured and standalone system voters get the confidence of their rights while not getting bullied. EVMs in the rest of world didn't work out simply because they were part of big network, so they were easily hacked. However in this case it's not connected to even adjecent machine, how will anybody hack it. There is not network connection, there is no port connection, no nothing. It's simple but clear cut Machine. To manipulate this person will have to do it physically for which again there is check & balance in place. There is only one way it can be manipulated is when it election commission itself manipulates it like it has happened in some dictators rule. Is that what you are proposing? If that is so, then again there is no other way to ensure transperamcy. If you have any suggestions pls let us Know. Thank you.


All political parties on losing end need straws to clutch on. Nothing new there.and you missed the main point which I had given for gen 1 machines.

I too working on all kind of hardware.. Not a single engineering professional will disagree that manipulating software is impossible... Downloading program in chip with certain motives is not at all impossible...