russia violating turkish airspace

[C130]

US was harassed by russian plane over the black sea last week, US didn't do anything.

So far it's the US that has acted scared not Turkey as we have shot down 1 russian UAV and 1 russian jet.

international waters

 

[xenon54 out]

@cabatli_53 can you take care of this false flagger troll pls.

 

[Worf]

you are scared of Russia or you would of shot down the Su-34 when it entered your airspace.

you shot down a Su-24 and it never even entered Turkish airspace

so what happened since then to now

What you have written does not make a single sense. You are suggesting Turkey is scared of Russia, so it shot down a aircraft in Syrian airspace. That sounds ballsy to me, not scared. And anyone would be a fool to shoot two aircraft of a single nation in less than 3 months in peace time; especially when the peace talks are coming up and the enemy has a very powerful propaganda tool, where it is brain washing even Americans.

I suggest you take a rational step by step analysis of what would of have happened if Turkey shot down the Su-34. They might of have shot down an F-16. But what would have really given them the upper hand would be notion of excluding Turkey from the peace talks, via telling everyone how anti peace turkey is. I'm glad they were not given the response they were so eagerly waiting for.

 

[Yellow-place]

you are scared of Russia or you would of shot down the Su-34 when it entered your airspace.

you shot down a Su-24 and it never even entered Turkish airspace

so what happened since then to now

It was not hit at first time. The same process happened.you can search the threads.
And we are the nation at most declared war on Russia in the world. While you were playing with Indians we were fighting. You Just made puppet wars with them till today. Lets see your balls once.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

I'm glad they were not given the response they were so eagerly waiting for

I agree with you. US overseas military has its own ROE and that is to react with "force" counter-fire or shot down of hostile elements. Maybe on SACEUR level they agreed to keep calm. It is not normal that Iran harasses US H.Truman carrier and Russia US- AD cruisers without any US response.
It is only a matter of time when a Russian operator will start an AD missile against an allied plane.

 

[C130]

What you have written does not make a single sense. You are suggesting Turkey is scared of Russia, so it shot down a aircraft in Syrian airspace. That sounds ballsy to me, not scared. And anyone would be a fool to shoot two aircraft of a single nation in less than 3 months in peace time; especially when the peace talks are coming up and the enemy has a very powerful propaganda tool, where it is brain washing even Americans.

I suggest you take a rational step by step analysis of what would of have happened if Turkey shot down the Su-34. They might of have shot down an F-16. But what would have really given them the upper hand would be notion of excluding Turkey from the peace talks, via telling everyone how anti peace turkey is. I'm glad they were not given the response they were so eagerly waiting for.

You are suggesting Turkey is scared of Russia, so it shot down a aircraft in Syrian airspace. That sounds ballsy to me, not scared.

I am implying Turkey is scared of Russia now after Russia made measures to protect it's bombers near Syria/Turkey border

@cabatli_53 can you take care of this false flagger troll pls.

false flagger funny how Turkey pulled it's own false flag shooting down the Su-24M. too bad it backfired on you.

 

[Oublious]

you are scared of Russia or you would of shot down the Su-34 when it entered your airspace.

you shot down a Su-24 and it never even entered Turkish airspace

so what happened since then to now

You are talking bs, look if we are scared why did we then shooted a russian fighter in syrian airspace=? Not that we shoot it above syrian airspace, really you are talking like dumb cowboy. So now they fly in our airspace and we are scared?

gtf out of here. You are trolling...

 

[Worf]

I am implying Turkey is scared of Russia now after Russia made measures to protect it's bombers near Syria/Turkey border

Are you claiming that Turkey didn't not know that the Russians have all this hardware before it shot down the aircraft?

I'll like to enlighten you; Turkey does share a border with Russia, so for you to think Turkey now fears a retaliation because of few military hardware that was transferred to Syria, is just plain old 'dim' of you; The Russian military is and was already in the vicinity of Turkey...... you know across the black sea .

It is amazing isn't, mainland Russia is off the coast of Turkey LMAO

Also right or wrong the Russian aircraft was shot down; that is up for debate. But for you to say Turkey is scared of few Su-34 is not correct. And I'm assuming you are not offended by a little bit of banter...

 

[C130]

Are you claiming that Turkey didn't not know that the Russians have all this hardware before it shot down the aircraft?

I'll like to enlighten you; Turkey does share a border with Russia, so for you to think Turkey now fears a retaliation because of few military hardware that was transferred to Syria, is just plain old 'dim' of you; The Russian military is and was already in the vicinity of Turkey...... you know across the black sea .

It is amazing isn't, mainland Russia is off the coast of Turkey LMAO

Also right or wrong the Russian aircraft was shot down; that is up for debate. But for you to say Turkey is scared of few Su-34 is not correct. And I'm assuming you are not offended by a little bit of banter...

before Turkey shot down the Su-24M.........Russia didn't even arm it's fighters with A2A missiles, after the Su-24M was shot down that's when Russia began arming it's fighter-bombers like Su-34, and having Su-30SM escort them.

even Russia said Turkey back stabbed them

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russian-su-34-fullbacks-fly-first-syria-sorties-loaded-1745307472


https://www.rt.com/news/323262-putin-downing-plane-syria/


you got one get out of free jail card, but you won't get a second. that's why Turkey is so hesitant.

 

[KingWest]

before Turkey shot down the Su-24M.........Russia didn't even arm it's fighters with A2A missiles, after the Su-24M was shot down that's when Russia began arming it's fighter-bombers like Su-34, and having Su-30SM escort them.

even Russia said Turkey back stabbed them

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russian-su-34-fullbacks-fly-first-syria-sorties-loaded-1745307472


https://www.rt.com/news/323262-putin-downing-plane-syria/


you got one get out of free jail card, but you won't get a second. that's why Turkey is so hesitant.

Stop trolling and talking BS in this thread man. Go outside and play with your friends.
Guys, stop responding to him. Do you expect a serious discussion with someone who quotes RT?
You can tell how much of a fanboy he is by the news sites he reads.

 

[Worf]

before Turkey shot down the Su-24M.........Russia didn't even arm it's fighters with A2A missiles, after the Su-24M was shot down that's when Russia began arming it's fighter-bombers like Su-34, and having Su-30SM escort them.

even Russia said Turkey back stabbed them

Wait...wait...wait. Now you are saying Turkey back stabbed Russia. Now that is a valid statement which can be discussed, but you shouldn't be the one saying it, since you said Turkey was scared; for you back stab someone, you would not fear them, do you? That is very contradictory.

You seem to be repeating different stories in a twisted narrative; i wonder why..ow wait i just checked the source of the article you provided....I am all for real discussion about the shooting of the Su-24; i for one think,it was a bad idea, but you are not here to have a real debate, but to repeat a one sided narrative provided by certain media outlets.

You will not have a reply from me, from now on

 

[era_shield]

Stop trolling and talking BS in this thread man. Go outside and play with your friends.
Guys, stop responding to him. Do you expect a serious discussion with someone who quotes RT?
You can tell how much of a fanboy he is by the news sites he reads.

He has 6000 posts in 1 year - I really doubt he has any friends.

He's trying to make trolling into a career and it seems he's a workaholic

Not to mention this guy says he's American but he's completely brainwashed by Russian propaganda. What a sad excuse for a human being. No brains. No life. Just sad.

 

[xenon54 out]

What you have written does not make a single sense. You are suggesting Turkey is scared of Russia, so it shot down a aircraft in Syrian airspace. That sounds ballsy to me, not scared. And anyone would be a fool to shoot two aircraft of a single nation in less than 3 months in peace time; especially when the peace talks are coming up and the enemy has a very powerful propaganda tool, where it is brain washing even Americans.

I suggest you take a rational step by step analysis of what would of have happened if Turkey shot down the Su-34. They might of have shot down an F-16. But what would have really given them the upper hand would be notion of excluding Turkey from the peace talks, via telling everyone how anti peace turkey is. I'm glad they were not given the response they were so eagerly waiting for.

You you shoot down you become the aggressor when you dont you become covard, they are really hard to satify.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

brainwashed by Russian propaganda

He has no idea what can happen if a real war happens. Russia is on foreign playground.
But I don't underestimate SU-34 even it is a derivative of old MIG-29 and not SU-35.
Let us make a brain storm to counter his arguments.
Guess, Russia will go on with more airspace violations and escalates the situation.
Turkey will warn again and again Russia, lock on them with CAP F-16s and Hawk-XX1 assets.
For my opinion , based on technical data SU-34 is superior to our F-16's,
cause our F-16s have no AESA radars and limited BVR capability.

Let's guess they will shot down one or two TurAF F-16s flying CAP with SU-34 or S-400.
Only guess; cause it will be not so easy of Koral, HEIK and NATO Awacs umbrella.
F-16s have also a good but not perfect ECM and self defence equipment.

Russia believes Turkey will do nothing, cause we won't ignite WWW3 and Putin threatened not only Turkey but especially NATO with nuclear first strike.

If Turkey or NATO will not react against Russian aggression, which obviously is a sophisticated plan to enlarge Russian boarders and influence. NATO would loose complete trustworthiness.
Turkish Gov. could collapse.
Russia could dare to occupy the small corridor to Kaliningrad and attack Poland.

A pacifist behavior of Turkey or Nato is not realistic and would boost Russian influence,
increase Russians psychological superiority and strengthen their aim for enlargement and occupation.

Now what will happen in Syria ?

Is Turkey the victim of a secret agreement between Russia and the USA ?
Or is it more likely that a limited war can happen ?

That made me headache :

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2016...ast-crisis-syria-ypg.html?ref=middleeast&_r=0

 

[TurAr]

before Turkey shot down the Su-24M.........Russia didn't even arm it's fighters with A2A missiles, after the Su-24M was shot down that's when Russia began arming it's fighter-bombers like Su-34, and having Su-30SM escort them.

even Russia said Turkey back stabbed them

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russian-su-34-fullbacks-fly-first-syria-sorties-loaded-1745307472


https://www.rt.com/news/323262-putin-downing-plane-syria/


you got one get out of free jail card, but you won't get a second. that's why Turkey is so hesitant.

According to Russia, Turkey shot down that Su-24 over Syria without a reason, and even then that little whiny bitch Putin couldn't do shit except constantly bitching about it. Now are you suggesting that Russia can shoot Turkish fighters over Turkey while violating Turkish airspace? That would mean a decleration of war you imbecile. Do you really think, Russia can declare war to NATO despite its already destroyed economy?