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10 times less casualties? for an attacking force that is bleeding losses that we see shared everyday? For instance oryx?
Suuurreee.
In meantime 80% ukraine is fully in western camp. While russia struggles to ethnically cleanse the donbass and then heroically “liberate” those 10-20% remaining pro russians
That's what I said:First of all TASS lol.....
Second of all, even if that is true, as I said, they can held up to a point when the East broke thru or Sloviansk/Kramatorsk threaten, and they broke thru from the East, what are you suppose to do? Leave them in place so they can be slaughtered?
The fact that the combine effort of Sieverodonetsk and Lysychansk held down the Russian for almost 2 months that the material and time the Russian wasted on the offensive.
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When Zelensky replaced its top general, military acumen was obviously lacking in Ukraine command structure. It was a very odd situation that Ukraine was trying desperately to hold on to both Severodonesk and Lysychansk by sending in more and more troops into a clear pocket trap. That entire line was not defensible when Popasana fell. You could even argue the Luhansk line not defensible from the start when Russia focused its troops in the regions late April.That's what I said:
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Zelinskki said the battles at Donbas will be the key of the war in the coming weeks. Ukraine withdrawal from positions they can’t hold longer is a logical step. Being encircled and annihilated by Russia army would be worse off.
This was an avoidable war, whether blame is on Putin, Biden or Zelensky, it's trivial and all parties had a share in Ukraine's misery.. But diplomacy was on the table and many of the details will be out in the future. Macron's aids leaked some details recently. I really don't give a damn what u think.More nonsense from desperate Russian drones trying to justify their unthinkable crimes against humanity. how embarrassingly misinformed do you have to be to believe this tosh - but papa Putin and his media stooges told me..... Oh no, poor Russian babies - Ukraine didn't like you language and cultural influence boo hoo, sob sob - let's bomb the hell out of them in response. Infantile justification.
That is wrong, pure propaganda. No, the war is not avoidable. Putin made the decision to go to war by late summer last year. The demands by Russia towards Ukraine, US, EU, Nato are unacceptable. Putin demands unconditional surrender. There is no room for negotiation. Nil.This was an avoidable war, whether blame is on Putin, Biden or Zelensky, it's trivial and all parties had a share in Ukraine's misery.. But diplomacy was on the table and many of the details will be out in the future. Macron's aids leaked some details recently. I really don't give a damn what u think and just presenting the facts.
Inside Emmanuel Macron’s failed one-man diplomacy mission on Ukraine
A behind-the-scenes documentary on Macron’s diplomatic efforts to stop the war in Ukraine exposes diplomatic failures and a hyper-personalized approach to foreign policy.www.politico.eu
This was an avoidable war, whether blame is on Putin, Biden or Zelensky, it's trivial and all parties had a share in Ukraine's misery.. But diplomacy was on the table and many of the details will be out in the future. Macron's aids leaked some details recently. I really don't give a damn what u think and just presenting the facts.
Inside Emmanuel Macron’s failed one-man diplomacy mission on Ukraine
A behind-the-scenes documentary on Macron’s diplomatic efforts to stop the war in Ukraine exposes diplomatic failures and a hyper-personalized approach to foreign policy.www.politico.eu
There is also news from China that the real commander of the Ukrainian government is Hillary Clinton.When Zelensky replaced its top general, military acumen was obviously lacking in Ukraine command structure. It was a very odd situation that Ukraine was trying desperately to hold on to both Severodonesk and Lysychansk by sending in more and more troops into a clear pocket trap. That entire line was not defensible when Popasana fell. You could even argue the Luhansk line not defensible from the start when Russia focused its troops in the regions late April.
Ukraine’s President Zelenskyy replaces head of Territorial Defense Forces
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has replaced the head of its Territorial Defense Forces nearly three months into the war with Russia without givingenglish.alarabiya.net
Alex argued that Military command is being given to NATO and the reason more and more troops being sent into Donbas was a publicity stunt to garner support of war in the west. US intelligence truly believed that Russian Logistics would not be able to quickly overcome Ukraine defense, and that the longer war goes on, and if Ukraine can hold off Russia in the East, Western media will support a "winning war".
hmm russian sources claim the best ukranian troops are being killed, but at the same time the russian propaganda showing ukranian troops with lower morale/material are constantly the territorial defence force.There is also news from China that the real commander of the Ukrainian government is Hillary Clinton.
The war of Ukrainian govt forces in Donetsk is indeed irrational. In the case of inferior equipment, they should not choose to fight a decisive battle in a place without the support of the local people.
At present, more than 50000 soldiers in the Ukrainian army have been killed, and few of their elite troops are left. And the Ukrainian govt has forcibly recruited women into the army now. That is the result of strategic failure.
But for Hillary Clinton, the war in Donetsk was for political victory, not strategic victory. Both Ukrainians and Russians are Slavs. No matter how many people die, Hillary won't care.
If Americans really want to help Europe solve the Russian problem, it is actually very easy. Dissolve NATO and let Russia join the EU, the troops stationed in Europe were transferred to East Asia.hmm russian sources claim the best ukranian troops are being killed, but at the same time the russian propaganda showing ukranian troops with lower morale/material are constantly the territorial defence force.
So Ukraine is bolstering these ranks with less trained troops.
It is weird though that they chose to stand amd fight in areas where:
1: they risk encirclement or their supply lines are under fire
2: the russians have finished massing their artillery/drones and you are severely outnumbered.
but from political standpoint i can understand it. Zelenski is buying time and support. More and more western weapons are being shipped.
Once they lose donbass Putin might call an end to his “special operation” . And then with gas/oil as pressure i think several european countries might prefer/push ukraine to settle for a peace deal.
Ukranians did not forget how fast germany and others went back to “business as usual” after crimea.
What suprises me is the relatively slow reaction of america. Geopolitically this is a major chance for them to damage russia and the eu in one go. And get eu dependant/paying for their LNG shipments.
Ukraine is ruled by a nazi Jew.There is also news from China that the real commander of the Ukrainian government is Hillary Clinton.
The war of Ukrainian govt forces in Donetsk is indeed irrational. In the case of inferior equipment, they should not choose to fight a decisive battle in a place without the support of the local people.
At present, more than 50000 soldiers in the Ukrainian army have been killed, and few of their elite troops are left. And the Ukrainian govt has forcibly recruited women into the army now. That is the result of strategic failure.
But for Hillary Clinton, the war in Donetsk was for political victory, not strategic victory. Both Ukrainians and Russians are Slavs. No matter how many people die, Hillary won't care.