Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Type59]

People are confused about how bloody war can be. Russia is losing men and material at a fast rate, but have captured territory and crippled Ukraine as a state.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499704531399102469

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Anti-aircraft missiles Germany offered Ukraine don't work

Soviet-era missiles were declared obsolete in 2014 and have become corroded in storage

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[LeGenD]

Total count of Russian strikes in Ukraine involving use of both cruise and ballistic missiles have exceeded 500 by now. These strikes involve use of following types:

3M14 Kalibr LACM
Iskander-K LACM (Hypersonic)
Kh-101 ALCM
Iskander-M SRBM
Tochka-U SRBM

LACM = Land Attack Cruise Missile
ALCM = Air Launched Cruise Missile
SRBM = Short Range Ballistic Missile

Looking through this thread and the Twitter and other news bits,it would seem Russia is getting serious losses, men and equipment.

I'm baffled with Putin, maybe he does not care for lives of his men but his losing the PR war as well. Their forces seem to be pushed back constantly and some of these videos show them just sitting there like ducks ready to be taken out. This looks like an army of amateurs not a professional force.

Like I say its perception but it seems his losing propaganda war big time.

Today - Russian forces lost 2 jet fighters, 1 helicopter, and also suffered losses in Dobre. Ukrainian forces retook control of Kulbakino airfield as well.

Ukrainians continue to surprise all.

 

[jamal18]

what you didn't see in the movie Black Hawk down is that there were two AC130 Spectre gunships in orbit over Mogadishu that day. If the US military had no regard for civilian losses they could have flattened several city blocks that day and killed tens of thousands of people. what you didn't see in the movie is that the Italians a NATO ally leaked news of US plans to Farrah Aidid - so the blood of US Rangers is on their hands.

If the US Military was truly unshackled like the Russian military is in Ukraine we wouldn't be having this conversation about Somalia or Afghanistan,

Three of Putin’s commanders killed on frontline​

Kyiv vows to ‘hit back harder’ if Putin attacks Kakhovka dam - LIVE

Moscow has resorted to the plot because “nuclear blackmail did not work”, the office of President Zelensky claims

www.independent.co.uk

Three Russian commanders have been killed after moving towards the frontline in a suspected bid to restore momentum to Vladimir Putin’s flagging invasion of Ukraine, Western sources have claimed.

Ukraine still has ‘significant majority’ of military aircraft available, US defence official says​

While Ukraine has suffered military losses in the air, experts are surprised that Russia’s far larger military did not quickly destroy Ukraine’s air force and gain domination over the country’s skies as Vladimir Putin launched his invasion, allowing his country’s ground forces to press ahead unimpeded.
“The Ukrainians still have a significant majority of their air combat power available to them, both fixed-wing and rotary wing as well as unmanned systems and surface-to-air systems,” a US defence official speaking on condition of anonymity told Reuters.

( not named yet - will come out in a day or so - but does suggest - russia's communucation lines are totally hacked - and these commanders were specifically targetted to be killed ).

There's a '40 mile' convoy spread out north of Kiev that has not been attacked for days.

 

[nangyale]

When even the former leader of USSR is so afraid of him, one can only imagine how dangerous Putin will be for a common Russian.

I just watched it and didn't find any fear.
What are you basing your theory on?

 

[Piotr]

This was Joe Biden's call and doing.

In my opinion with or without Biden US was going to lose war against Afghanistan.
And my point was that all news about military operation in Donbas and the Ukraine should be taken with a bucket of salt.

There are a lot of fakes:

7 FAKE NEWS stories coming out of Ukraine​

Kit Knightly​

We’re only three days into Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, and yet the propaganda cogs are whirring fast as lightning, churning out “news”, opinion and content grist for the media mill.

In just the last 48 hours dozens of stories, images, narratives and videos have circulated as being taken from the fighting in Ukraine, a huge percentage of which are fake.

Now, some of it could be attributed to misunderstandings, mistaken identity, misattribution…but many and most are likely deliberate deceptions designed to provoke a response. Let’s dive right in.

1. “The Ghost of Kiev”​

Early Friday morning it was reported that a single Ukrainian plane, a MiG-29, was patrolling the skies above Kiev. The English speaking press called the unnamed pilot “The Ghost of Kiev”, and claimed he had downed 6 Russian jets in air-to-air combat in less than 2 days, making him an official Fighter Ace, and probably one of the fastest to ever earn that title.

The trouble is there is almost no evidence this happened at all. To quote Newsweek:

There is zero evidence the “Ghost of Kyiv” exists”.

Neither side can confirm Russia has lost six planes in total, let alone to one man inside a single day. And a video alleged to be “the Ghost” in combat – shared by the Ukrainian Armed Forces – is confirmed to actually be footage taken from a video game.


Nevertheless, he already has his own Wikipedia page. A testament to how fast a lie can move while the truth is putting its boots on.

2. “Russian planes flying over Kiev”​

A lot of people have been sharing a short video of Russian planes allegedly flying low over the city of Kiev. The Times used it a still from it in their story “Will sanctions stop a Russian shell?”:

The problem with that is it’s not Kiev, it’s Moscow. And it’s not today, it’s two years ago. It’s footage of what is likely a rehearsal for the 2020 Victory Day Parade flyover.

3. “Zelenskiy visiting the troops”​

Possibly no politician in history has had a PR makeover quite as fast as Vlodomyr Zelenskiy. Last week he was just some guy, this week he’s a war hero, there’s talk of building statues of the man. A (not at all staged) “leaked” phone call had him turning down the US offer of an airlift to safety.


Twitter is dotted with people sharing photos of him in combat fatigues, comparing him favourably to Trump and Trudeau and asking “what other leaders would fight alongside their troops?”

This is President Zelensky. He is a brave man fighting shoulder to shoulder with his people. This man was blackmailed and extorted by Trump, who is a corrupt criminal and a coward. So yes, if I have to pay more for a gallon of gas, democracy is worth it. #UkraineStrong pic.twitter.com/4J8x8FnTZH
— Danielle Candela (@DanielleCandela) February 25, 2022

But the problem with that is the photos are all almost a year old, taken when he visited the troops last April:

4. “Luhansk power station explosion”​

Early on in the confrontation, this video started doing the rounds on social media:

Luhansk power plant in Ukraine pic.twitter.com/4LaI1uRxCe
— Oak Redhammer (@OakRedhammer) February 24, 2022

The video went viral, receiving 100,000s of views. Hundreds of accounts shared it, even major news networks used it, all claiming it shows a power station in Luhansk exploding after being hit with Russian missiles.


It does not, it’s a chemical plant exploding in Tianjin, China in 2015.

5. Video games. again.​

This footage, claiming to show Ukrainian ground forces downing Russian aircraft, also went viral recently, even appearing on Spanish television news:

…It’s from the video game ARMA 3.

6. “Russian warship go **** yourself”​

This was the first major propaganda narrative following Russia’s advance onto Ukrainian territory. Allegedly leaked audio showed Ukrainian border guards on tiny Snake Island in the black sea communicating with a Russian warship. Upon being told to surrender, the guards say “Russian warship go **** yourself”.


The Western press reported that all 13 of the men were killed, and the Ukrainian government released a statement saying they would all be awarded posthumous honors.


However, while the supposedly fallen heroes were being canonised all over the western world, Russia was reporting that they had not been killed at all, but taken alive and unharmed back to the mainland.


A story both the press and the Ukrainian government have since reluctantly admitted is likely true.

7. Syrian drone strikes footage​

Another video doing the rounds, and again shared by official Ukrainian accounts, was drone footage supposedly showing the destruction of a column of Russian vehicles.

It’s actually footage of a Turkish drone strike in Syria from 2020.


Meanwhile, other accounts were sharing footage of combat from Libya or Israeli bombardments of Gaza under the hashtag #StandWithUkraine. Middle East Eye has compiled a list.


It’s somewhat beautiful irony that so many of the clips prompting outrage in Western liberals actually come from wars their governments started.


There we have it, seven stories about the war in Ukraine that are demonstrably fake, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.


There’s tons of other fakes out there, not to mention fakes of fakes designed to discredit doubters or just spread chaos.


Ultimately, it’s all a timely reminder that propaganda is at its most potent at times where the news is moving fast and people are feeling emotional.


That is WHY the media whips up fear, anxiety and hatred, because people in that emotional state are less likely to think critically.


It should go without saying that this is equally true for both sides. We shouldn’t blindly accept claims from the Russian side, simply because we know NATO lies. Both sides propagandize, and one-eyed scepticism is only a different kind of bias.


In short, if you see something designed to provoke an emotional reaction, don’t let it. Never get swept along in the narrative, always hold yourself back, keep calm and ask rational questions.


Withhold belief, demand facts. It’s the only way to keep your mind free.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/27/7-fake-news-stories-coming-out-of-ukraine/

 

[nangyale]

It is on the agenda but even if it is not on the agenda you can't fool the Russians because they have ordered 64 F-35s and why would a small country militarize to that extent? Russia knows what is going on and the reasons Ukraine even got invaded was due to militarizing as Russia knew Ukraine was never gonna be accepted in NATO anyways but they were already defacto members and an extension arm that was militarizing and the same with Finland whos even more of an extension then Ukraine

May be the Fins got the message and are mending their ways.

Private contractors could only prolong the war and hope in the end to wear Russians out. In the process, civillians have to suffer for a long time. But a well organized "volunteer" army could drive Russians out quickly with "volunteer" ground troops armed with the best weapons the west can offer and "volunteer" air force armed with F-35s.

And where they will be flying the F35s from?
Any airbase that's used will in itself become a target for incoming Iskanders.

 

[nang2]

And where they will be flying the F35s from?
Any airbase that's used will in itself become a target for incoming Iskanders.

Poland. When Chinese Air Force (newly formed) operated over Korea, their planes were stationed within China.

 

[nangyale]

Three of Putin’s commanders killed on frontline​

Kyiv vows to ‘hit back harder’ if Putin attacks Kakhovka dam - LIVE

Moscow has resorted to the plot because “nuclear blackmail did not work”, the office of President Zelensky claims

www.independent.co.uk

Three Russian commanders have been killed after moving towards the frontline in a suspected bid to restore momentum to Vladimir Putin’s flagging invasion of Ukraine, Western sources have claimed.

Ukraine still has ‘significant majority’ of military aircraft available, US defence official says​

While Ukraine has suffered military losses in the air, experts are surprised that Russia’s far larger military did not quickly destroy Ukraine’s air force and gain domination over the country’s skies as Vladimir Putin launched his invasion, allowing his country’s ground forces to press ahead unimpeded.
“The Ukrainians still have a significant majority of their air combat power available to them, both fixed-wing and rotary wing as well as unmanned systems and surface-to-air systems,” a US defence official speaking on condition of anonymity told Reuters.

( not named yet - will come out in a day or so - but does suggest - russia's communucation lines are totally hacked - and these commanders were specifically targetted to be killed ).

The independent is out doing itself with it's propaganda blitz.
At this rate Russia will run out of Generals before they even call their first draft.

Poland. When Chinese Air Force (newly formed) operated over Korea, their plane were stationed within China.

Poland is no China.
The Russians can simply flaten the place in no time.

 

[nang2]

Poland is no China.
The Russians can simply flaten the place in no time.

I doubt of it from the look of what they have achieved in Ukraine.

 

[pkuser2k12]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499558580692811776

 

[nangyale]

I doubt of it from the look of what they have achieved in Ukraine.

I doubt of it from the look of what they have achieved in Ukraine.

Russians have been treating the Ukrainians with kid gloves, there won't be any such qualms when it comes to Poland.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499821283215024129

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499823752661680133

 

[pkuser2k12]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499801211293224960