Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

Foinikas · Mar 2, 2022

nang2 said:
No, as long as they are not duplicates. Fake news are fine. Repeating fake news are not.

For example

A friend sent me this

I did a reverse image search

Gripen9 · Mar 2, 2022

RescueRanger said:
Foreign envoys urge Pakistan to condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine during emergency UNGA session
- https://www.dawn.com/news/1677704

@That Guy @LeGenD @The Eagle @Chak Bamu @PDF @A1Kaid @Irfan Baloch @jaibi @Horus @Signalian @HRK

Thoughts? Treading water moment!

Pakistan should ask these European envoys to first get India onboard. We are nobodys on the International Stage.
Then they should commit to raising the Kashmiri cause in UN first, then we'll get onboard the RusCondemnation train.

Bearbearbot · Mar 2, 2022

Russian losses up to 28th February is about 300 (russian military & donetsk/Lugansk militia combined)
Source:

Proxy war: Russia v EU-NATO and Ukraine (Live)

Proxy war: Russia v EU-NATO and Ukraine (Live) #TheDuran #TheDuranLive

rumble.com

Timestamp: 1:14:00

Foinikas · Mar 2, 2022

I'm starting to think the Ghost of Kiev is that Indian pilot with the '70s pornstar moustache.

sur · Mar 2, 2022

Messerschmitt said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1498750574581452802

I see houses getting hit. They are missing the vehicles just by a little and hitting the houses.
Military vehicles are in residential areas and civilians are paying the price of the war.

Center of explosions seems to be houses:

Gripen9 said:
Pakistan should ask these European envoys to first get India onboard. We are nobodys on the International Stage.
Then they should commit to raising the Kashmiri cause in UN first, then we'll get onboard the RusCondemnation train.

They are easy liars (concocted this term). Will be quick to make false promises about Kashmir etc., only to have multiple excuses not to keep them later. Even if they gave it in writing.

Wergeland 2.0 · Mar 2, 2022

Pakistan Space Agency said:
One more:

Ukraine NOT becoming a NATO member is now fighting for its very own existence against Russia.

Important detail is missing here: Zelensky regime was determined to make Ukraine a NATO member, and that too very urgently, with americans showing full support for his aspirations. Also Zelensky is overwhelmingly anti-Russian. Which makes it even more hostile for its immidiate nuclear armed neighbor.

If Ukraine and NATO had not pushed for its membership, it would have remained a independent country, but probably with a degree of Russian influence. This means Ukraine also would be open for western influence as it has been since end of cold war. Something proven by it participating in Iraq War.

With NATO membership out of question it would stay a buffer state with a somewhat balanced policy in regards to both Russia and NATO, something Russia could probably accept and live with. By it becoming a NATO member, the balance of power would be havily tilted toward a existential threat to Russia, therefore Russian preemptive invasion was inevtable from Russian POV.

Elias MC · Mar 2, 2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498757965658136577

_Nabil_ · Mar 2, 2022

Foinikas said:
Should we have a separate thread for Ukrainian fake news?

If we open a thread for debunked fake news, it will be probably almost the size of this Thread.

It's the tendency now, just let it be ....

Paul2 · Mar 2, 2022

gambit said:
Since am Air Force, F-111 Cold War then F-16 Desert Storm, am going to give you an air force perspective.

Just because you think and perceive some attacks as indiscriminate that does not mean they were. Can the USAF truly go indiscriminate? Yes, but why would we? We do not need 'indiscriminate' to induce fear into enemy forces, we certainly did not in Desert Storm. Even with the manufacturing might of the US, and we hauled everything we needed from the Western Hemisphere, any air commander who went truly indiscriminate would lose his stars or eagles. Even if we trapped a division of enemy troops into an area with no civilians, to go truly 'indiscriminate' would still be stupid and wasteful. If we can drop 10 bombs into a specific point in that trap to induce surrender why the hell would we drop 1000 bombs indiscriminately when 10 bombs did the job?

As far as spinning the Russian performance so far...Good job...But...

Have you consider the possibility that the reason why Russia have not done any 'shock and awe' is because they cannot, not because they would not? When you split your invasion plan three-ways, so are your logistic lines: 3 ways. Then once the war is underway, you let your air commanders allocate how each conduct his part of the invasion plan. You do not, or should not, micro manage.

What if -- just what if -- there were no Russian equivalent of 'shock and awe' is because each air commander do not have sufficient munition to create the initial 'shock and awe' effect and still have enough to conduct the rest of the war?

What if -- just what if -- each air commander does have sufficient munition to create three versions of 'shock and awe' but Poutine underestimated Ukrainian resistance and micro managed his air commanders to restrain themselves?

Both versions of 'what if' constitute strategic errors that ended with what the world is seeing today -- that the Russian military was flawed and inefficient in its execution of the war. You do not see 'indiscriminate' bombing, like the American way of war, so that mean the Russian military is more humane? Damn...!!! Talk about swallowing propaganda.

War is war, I don't understand the need to argue about it as such. Few month ago we were arguing about US, and China, my home country, having a war in South Sea.

It's about the resolve. Having war, or not having war. China, as far as I know as a person with some connections, has not even remotely any serious regard for that, but is already winning a staredown contest. As I said almost a year ago, US made a strategic decision of not having a war over East Asia, or at most doing "damage control."

I don't hate, or like America. My passport is Chinese, education Canadian, and Singaporean, my parents died, and chose to be buried in UK, and they though of immigration to UK to being their achievement of a lifetime despite them being USD millionaires back in nineties, and having a prospect of becoming even bigger if they stayed.

What I hate is US elites speaking with a split tongue, trading with China and making billions from it, all while throwing poop on China, militarily posturing against China, all while preparing to "strategically betray" their own allies in the region (and constantly doing it, I.E. sabotaging Taiwan nuke project.) Today we all boo Germany for sucking to Russia, but USA is 100 times more like Germany with China.

For as long as USA will be run by Kissingers, prospects are grim. Here, @gambit you have my solidarity, and even sympathy today.

NotSure · Mar 2, 2022

RescueRanger said:
million dollar tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498663302435639299

More from him, for our "Experts" here, who say russia is losing and so on:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498635393327054849

Elias MC · Mar 2, 2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498760693486608392

sur · Mar 2, 2022

RescueRanger said:
million dollar tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498663302435639299

Could you please elaborate for non-tech-savvy like myself?

LeGenD · Mar 2, 2022

Foinikas said:
I'm starting to think the Ghost of Kiev is that Indian pilot with the '70s pornstar moustache.

View attachment 819923

The Ghost of Kyiv is a morale-booster account for Ukranians.

The ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ Is The Mythical Hero Ukraine Needs Right Now

There is no evidence that a single MiG pilot shot down multiple Russian warplanes, but, historically, such legends are potent morale boosters.

www.thedrive.com

Reality is rather grim