Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[1ndy]

Hei Indian stop talking nonsense, US sanctioning Russian companies, so why it is different when we sanction Israel companies who want to do trade with Indonesia and sell their products here.

LOL keep dreaming US and Europe try to sanction Indonesia, better you worried on Indian economy due to this war

Now you come to your senses... My economy isn't in good shape right now and I am not one boasting about sanctioning anyone... and yes you still keep trading with Russia while US and Europe gets themselves sanctioned.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

The life cycle of the eastern European: eat, sleep, hate Russia. They don't even have names, they're all called "I hate Russia."

 

[RescueRanger]

I am not going to follow anything, but I will say the source you quote me is not what you are saying.

okay, i'll go back to sipping my tea. No skin of my back

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498647741152514050

 

[jhungary]

Something that US and its shills wont admit to.

Have you even been to Ukraine?? Like Ever?

Maybe you should really go out there and see for yourself before you are calling people shill

It's funny, because staying at home towing line on something you know nothing about is the definition of "Shill"

LOL

okay, i'll go back to sipping my tea. No skin of my back

I am not saying you are faking it or anything.

I am just saying I won't buy anything unless it is official, I was a Military Intelligence Officer, I only believe what I see. I have no Qualm for you get your information from Telegram or so on.

 

[RescueRanger]

I am not saying you are faking it or anything.

Brother I really couldn't care less. It's all good!

 

[jamahir]

Taken from an official account:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498626312998727687

Are these people preventing only Russian units or Belarus units too ?

Perhaps Belarus is being readied for another CIA-initiated color revolution. These particular people must not allow themselves to be influenced by Western populist sentiment. They must allow the units to get into Ukraine.

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Sad. A future doctor for India as well as for others. But I must ask who declared him killed by the Russians ? We have watched vids of Ukranian military and police assaulting Indian students including girls.

 

[jhungary]

The Ukrainians are telling so many lies that Baghdad Bob is writhing in his grave. I have been fact checking the Ukrainian claims and 95% are total lies. Russian figures are more rare but accurate.

Major General Igor Yevgenyevich Konashenkov is the chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation. He has served in the Russian Aerospace Defence units in Syria and is respected for his professional briefings and veracity.

Care to share some "fact" that you proof 95% are lies?

Also, it depends on what you use as a yard stick to "fact check" your information. Your "lies" may not be the same of someone else's "lies"

 

[Arbiter]

30% of Ukrainian are Jewish or have Jewish root, and 25 out of 450 Rada administration are Jewish. Sure, one man cannot make decision, but a group did, and a large group of Ukrainian are Jewish or have Jewish root. Don't forget, Ukraine is the place where Soviet Union deport almost all the Jews to (another group went to Poland and Belarus.) Can you even see the irony for a country that origin have deported all the Jews out of their territories accusing the place that they send all the Jews to as "Neo-Nazi"? Pretty sure the irony did not lost on me.

History of the Jews in Russia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just because you did not bomb the heck out of a country does not mean they are not going to be hostile to you. They hate you not because of whether or not you bomb their country, they hate you because you invaded their country. As I said, this have nothing to do with War Planning, this is what Putin said to "Justify" his war. If he believe in his own delusion then he should not be in charge of the operation, because all those Russian soldier that were killed is directly because of him.

Yeah but that doesn't mean that neo nazi group doesn't exist. In fact, the people who stormed the parliament in 2014 were exactly that. Ever since then they have played a larger role in Ukraine politics. Azov regiment is now officially part of the army. The divide within the country itself is deep. In western Ukraine - their national hero, Stepan Bandera - is someone who helped nazi germany against the USSR. While in the south and east their national heroes are the ones who fought against Stepan Bandera and nazi Germany. That illustrates the divide that exists between ethnic russian and ukranians.

After the storming and overthrow of the government of Ukraine in 2014. The nazists burned 30-40 people while locking them inside a building in Odessa, these people were ethnic russians. This led to Crimeans parliament declaring independence and rebellion in Donbass region. So yes, nazi ideologi has infiltrated the power elite in Ukraine.

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[nufix]

Current sanction is not like CAATSA, in CAATSA countries who buy Russian defense equipment will get sanction, while for this current sanction it is just focusing on Russian and make it difficult for any countries to do trade with Russia, there is no clause saying US and the West will sanction country who do trade with Russia.

The US and NATO allies also will band themselves selling technology products to Russian, they dont ask other countries to do similar thing

Actually not all Russian banks will be banned in SWIFT system, countries can still trade with Russia using other Russian banks, and so far trade in energy and commodities can still be done despite some difficulties will exist. This is why oil and gas price dont jump beyond 110 USD perbarrel and still trade within 98-105 USD per barrel.

True, I am not saying CAATSA is equal to the sanction currently enacted on the Russian. I just pointed out that while Indonesia might still do trade with Russia, Indonesia might eventually join the West in limiting trade with Russia given enough pressure from the West. This can be seen from the CAATSA case. Indonesia was still going for Russian jets even as recent as 2021, but when the US increased the pressure and also provided Indonesia with a comparable alternative like F15 EX, Indonesia no longer saw benefits in buying the Russian jets.

And I sense that the West will eventually pressure more countries to impose sanction against Russia, especially countries whose products are irreplaceable for Russia. In the case of Indonesia-Russia trade, Indonesia actually has the upper hand due to the fact that Indonesia's palm oil and rubber products are not easily replaceable. Indonesia maintains surplus trade balance with Russia thanks to those products since Indonesia happens to be the biggest palm oil producers and second biggest rubber producer. Palm oil and rubber account for over 1/3 of Indonesia's export to Russia. Meanwhile, Russia's biggest exports to Indonesia are coal briquettes, semi-finished irons, and petrols... Those are commodities that Indonesia is able to produce on its own (third biggest coal producer, major oil producer, biggest biodiesel producer) or source from other countries (iron products from India, Australia, Japan).

Russia (RUS) and Indonesia (IDN) Trade | OEC

Find the latest trade data and tariffs between Russia and Indonesia.

oec.world

 

[Titanium100]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498646371129253892

 

[RescueRanger]

Ukraine claims Belarus has crossed border to join Putin's invasion

In a statement on Twitter, the country’s parliament said Belarusian troops had entered the Chernihiv region.

metro.co.uk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498650260154970112

 

[Trango Towers]

Oh man, how many more misinformed people on the forum I have to educate ! Tagging you in my thread from 2016 whose OP is an article by Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about Socialist and Communist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s. Long before you were born.



Yes we could say that.

As I said pixel. Have a nice day. Conversation over

 

[jhungary]

Yeah but that doesn't mean that neo nazi group doesn't exist. In fact, the people who stormed the parliament in 2014 were exactly that. Ever since they have played a larger role in Ukraine politics. Azov regiment is now officially part of the army. The divide within the country itself is deep. In western Ukraine - their national hero, Stepan Bandera - is somehow who helped nazi germany against the USSR. While in the south and east their national hero is the ones who fought against Stepan Bandera and nazi Germany. That illustrates the divide that exists between ethnic russian and ukranians.

After the storming and overthrow of the government of Ukraine in 2014. The nazists burned 30-40 people while locking them inside a building in Odessa, these people were ethnic russians. This led to Crimeans parliament declaring independence and rebellion in Donbass region. So yes, nazi ideologi has infiltrated the power elite in Ukraine.

True, but then there are neo-nazi group that exist everywhere, INCLUDING RUSSIA.

Neo-Nazis in Russia - The Borgen Project

With the upcoming Winter Olympics, there is growing concern over the actions of Neo-Nazis in Russia.

borgenproject.org

But then can you name me one "Neo Nazi" influence beside Azov Battalion? You do know that Azov Battalion is a small Military Unit (about 400 men) in Ukrainian National Guard. I mean they aren't even big as a miltiary unit, let alone have any real meaningful effect on the government as a whole.

Also, do you know how Russian treated Captured Ukrainian journalist who cover the Pro-Russian rebel capture and execute the government (Burn them alive) official in Eastern Ukraine?? They broke their fingernail and cut off their arms then execute them. And do you know what those Russia was called by the Ukrainian? - Nazis

So which side is the real Nazis here? Russia or Ukraine? It depends on your perspective, if you are Russian, Ukrainian are the Nazis, and if you are a Ukrainian, then the Russian are Nazis. So tell me, have you been to either place to know which one is Nazi? Or you are just telling me because you took someone view?

Finally, the prespective of Maidan "Overthrowing" a legitimate government is false, Yanukovych government were not a majority government, he only got 48.7% of vote, he has a power sharing deal with Tymoshenko to govern the country. But then he jailed Tymoshenko and rolled back the EU deal (Which is part of the power sharing deal) Before Maidan happen, Tymoshenko party already pull out the power sharing deal and triggered a election, true, by definiton, Yanukovych is still the president, but the government of Ukraine is no longer valid as the parliament is dissolved, that is when Yanukovych realise he cannot possibly win another election and going to jail and flee the country with 2 billions dollars. That is what started Maidan.