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I don't see how Stalingrad is a good example for this war because well, first of all Stalingrad is a Russian city and secondly, the Germans lacked proper technology and logistics to endure cold Russian winters in 1940s.

Anyway, why would Russians want a revolution? The only reason that Russian people may want a revolution would be for better economic conditions. But do you think the Russians would sell their country to the West for temporary improvement in their economic conditions? Do you think Russians, being one of the largest empires of history, do not have the vision to understand that sacrificing their national security will not lead to a better future for them?

Also, you are assuming that the problem is Putin. But this may very well not be true. Russians feel threatened by NATO's expansionist policies and they have felt humiliated for far too long after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It's not like Putin didn't give diplomacy a chance. Putin could've done this back in 2014, but back then he hoped that the West would accept him as an equal and give Russia a share of power in global affairs without a need for military confrontation. The whole concept of tandemocracy in Russia was about cooperation with the West instead of confrontation. Instead, the West continued to disrespect him and interpreted his patience as weakness until this happened. Putin has made the decision of invading Ukraine fully aware of its political and economic consequences and the majority of Russians seem to agree with him. Hence, I do not see why a patriotic revolution is necessary and how it can change the situation for Ukraine or the West, if not make the situation worse.

I agree with everything you said. But Russians should have done it in 2014 itself.
 
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I wonder what Russia is going to do about the AT/MANPADS being sent over from the Polish border. If they don’t air strike the convoys transporting them, they’re screwed. Otherwise, they could destroy bridges across the Dnieper to cut off Ukrainian resupplies.
Here is the legal deal...

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

For now, we have Russia and Ukraine as belligerents. And Poland as a neutral power.

Article 1. The territory of neutral Powers is inviolable.​
This mean initially, no one can violate Poland's borders.

Art. 2. Belligerents are forbidden to move troops or convoys of either munitions of war or supplies across the territory of a neutral Power.​
Art. 3. Belligerents are likewise forbidden to:​
(a) Erect on the territory of a neutral Power a wireless telegraphy station or other apparatus forthe purpose of communicating with belligerent forces on land or sea;​
(b) Use any installation of this kind established by them before the war on the territory of a neutral Power for purely military purposes, and which has not been opened for the service of public messages.​

This mean Russia and Ukraine are forbidden to use Polish territory for war purposes.

Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.​
Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory. It is not called upon to punish acts in violation of its neutrality unless the said acts have been committed on its own territory.​

But now it becomes problematic, not just for Poland but for any country that claim neutrality but is MATERIALLY helping Ukraine such as transporting arms and/or sheltering Ukrainian fighters (not refugees).

Is Poland facilitating article 4 IN FAVOR of Ukraine? What is 'Corps of combatants' can also be extended to munitions because combatants and munitions usually accompany each other. If it is interpreted that Poland violated article 4, then Poland lost article 1 and Russia will be within legal bounds to attack Poland. But that would also trigger Article 5 of NATO charter.

A potential problem now is the integration of trade and financial systems. Could Russia argue that neutral powers who denied Russia access to the international financial system fall under Article 4? In other words, as those neutral powers actively use their native resources to assist Ukraine, they became belligerents on the side of Ukraine, thereby losing Article 1 protection.
 
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More and more info about the war will make it out and will be independent of Russia's interference. All you guys who are cheering for Russia? Better start your own 50 cent army. :lol:

And where is ur 700 billion $ army? Too scared to set foot in Ukraine? Such a shame a $700 billion army only good enough to fight rogue militias with no proper army and chicken out when faced with a real army.
Instead of jumping around here and chest thumping, u guys should be criticising ur clown leaders for not helping ukraine properly and leaving them to be slaughtered by Russia. Or atleast have some shame and sit in a corner.
 
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Sure, but at the same time he’s the Vice Chairman in the Senate Intel Committee, wouldn’t you think that he’s received briefings? The Russian invasion has clearly not progressed as Putin wanted.
Seriously? Russians have reached the capital of 50 million strong country within 3 days and you don't call that progress? They have knocked out most of the Ukrainian air force, knocked out most of Ukrainian armored divisions, they are controlling the sky, the power stations, water and gas utilities are ready to be destroyed, there is a mass refugee crisis and Russians have more soldiers and equipment ready to send and you are saying Russian invasion hasn't progressed.
 
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Seems that Russians have taken the gloves off and have gone full throttle. An opportunity was provided to Zelensky for peace.


This Rubio guy is such a joker. He is reading the list as if he has the entire war plans made in his kitchen…. What an idiot.

Seriously I think it will take at least two weeks to take Kiev. The idea is that the Russians want to install their puppet and they don’t want to destroy too much infrastructure or cause civilian casualties.

They will take their time to destroy Ukrainian military leaving them no threat to them in the future.
 
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