Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Wood]

Gary Kasprov's take on Putin

 

[gambit]

Why would this not be an act of war?!

As of now, any country that supplies weapons to Ukraine can be interpreted under the Geneva Convention as at war against Russia.

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

CHAPTER I​

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THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS​

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Article 1. The territory of neutral Powers is inviolable.​

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Art. 2. Belligerents are forbidden to move troops or convoys of either munitions of war or supplies across the territory of a neutral Power.​

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Art. 3. Belligerents are likewise forbidden to:​

(a) Erect on the territory of a neutral Power a wireless telegraphy station or other apparatus forthe purpose of communicating with belligerent forces on land or sea;​

(b) Use any installation of this kind established by them before the war on the territory of a neutral Power for purely military purposes, and which has not been opened for the service of public messages.​

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Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.​

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Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory. It is not called upon to punish acts in violation of its neutrality unless the said acts have been committed on its own territory.​

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Art. 6. The responsibility of a neutral Power is not engaged by the fact of persons crossing the frontier separately to offer their services to one of the belligerents.​

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Art. 7. A neutral Power is not called upon to prevent the export or transport, on behalf of one or other of the belligerents, of arms, munitions of war, or, in general, of anything which can be of use to an army or a fleet.​

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Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private individuals.​

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Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8 must be impartially applied by it to both belligerents. A neutral Power must see to the same obligation being observed by companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or wireless telegraphy apparatus.​

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Art. 10. The fact of a neutral Power resisting, even by force, attempts to violate its neutrality cannot be regarded as a hostile act.​

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The default position is article 1. Borders are inviolable.

Neutral powers must not allow articles 2 thru 4 on their territories in order for article 1 to be inviolable. But articles 2 thru 4 forbids belligerents, not the neutral powers. What Poland et al are doing are articles 6 thru 8. If anyone want to cross borders to join a belligerent, that does not mean the neutral power is taking a side. Same for weapons. So as long as neither Ukraine nor Russia uses the territory of neutral powers, Poland et al are safe.

The problem is if Russia chose to interpret articles 6 thru 8 differently or even do away with them, thereby dragging everyone who are arming Ukraine into the war. If Poland sends Ukraine its jets, that could constitute taking one side. If Poland merely allows transit of jets destined for Ukraine, that is not taking one side. The legal issues can be murky.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501012167902040067

 

[8888888888888]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501012167902040067

Like another Trade war ?

 

[TheSolution]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501012167902040067

USA trying to forefully police the world again on what they should do

 

[F-22Raptor]

As of now, any country that supplies weapons to Ukraine can be interpreted under the Geneva Convention as at war against Russia.

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

CHAPTER I​

​

THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS​

​

Article 1. The territory of neutral Powers is inviolable.​

​

Art. 2. Belligerents are forbidden to move troops or convoys of either munitions of war or supplies across the territory of a neutral Power.​

​

Art. 3. Belligerents are likewise forbidden to:​

(a) Erect on the territory of a neutral Power a wireless telegraphy station or other apparatus forthe purpose of communicating with belligerent forces on land or sea;​

(b) Use any installation of this kind established by them before the war on the territory of a neutral Power for purely military purposes, and which has not been opened for the service of public messages.​

​

Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.​

​

Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory. It is not called upon to punish acts in violation of its neutrality unless the said acts have been committed on its own territory.​

​

Art. 6. The responsibility of a neutral Power is not engaged by the fact of persons crossing the frontier separately to offer their services to one of the belligerents.​

​

Art. 7. A neutral Power is not called upon to prevent the export or transport, on behalf of one or other of the belligerents, of arms, munitions of war, or, in general, of anything which can be of use to an army or a fleet.​

​

Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private individuals.​

​

Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8 must be impartially applied by it to both belligerents. A neutral Power must see to the same obligation being observed by companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or wireless telegraphy apparatus.​

​

Art. 10. The fact of a neutral Power resisting, even by force, attempts to violate its neutrality cannot be regarded as a hostile act.​

​

The default position is article 1. Borders are inviolable.

Neutral powers must not allow articles 2 thru 4 on their territories in order for article 1 to be inviolable. But articles 2 thru 4 forbids belligerents, not the neutral powers. What Poland et al are doing are articles 6 thru 8. If anyone want to cross borders to join a belligerent, that does not mean the neutral power is taking a side. Same for weapons. So as long as neither Ukraine nor Russia uses the territory of neutral powers, Poland et al are safe.

The problem is if Russia chose to interpret articles 6 thru 8 differently or even do away with them, thereby dragging everyone who are arming Ukraine into the war. If Poland sends Ukraine its jets, that could constitute taking one side. If Poland merely allows transit of jets destined for Ukraine, that is not taking one side. The legal issues can be murky.

Gambit, for how long can Russia sustain these types of losses and still achieve its military goals?

900 confirmed losses in 12 days.

 

[zartosht]

"This video is not available in your country.." [UK]

what network is it?

(Evil) Russia Today RT

 

[Oldman1]

He will put them in camps

He can try.

 

[Madni Bappa]

What won’t make the news today is that there was a massive cyber attack against international calls to Russia where callers where greeted with this message:

"Due to the attack by the fascist Russia on Ukraine, and starting the war.
The current phone call is blocked.

Russian phone call,
go f*** yourself."

Video proof in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500289207872339968

Normal everyday Russians do not deserve this treatment.

 

[Oldman1]

You don't need to do that . You need several drones.

Might as well say you need several aircraft.

 

[8888888888888]

He can try.

NATO is doing want it can now with Russian nukes pointing at them. If Russia wants them in camps due to insurgents they can do so.

 

[Madni Bappa]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501012167902040067

Bro you're basically gonna have to sanction most of the non white world at this point lmao

 

[Oldman1]

NATO is doing want it can now with Russian nukes pointing at them. If Russia wants them in camps due to insurgents they can do so.

I said he can try...

Bayraktar will be out of stock it performed magically for Ukraine to the point where a song for Bayraktar was introduced in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500946729918775302

Thats why as I have said in another thread, Ukraine needs to get many before they are out of stock of backlogged.

Everyday I see the Ukrainian map shrinking as if it is being swallowed by some shark…..

Meanwhile Twitter is celebrating few tanks that they have managed to destroy.

Russians have 32000 armoured vehicles !!!!!!

The Russians can't resupply fuel and ammo with 32k armored vehicles at the same time. Don't even have enough personnel to crew them.

 

[Oldman1]

For the glory seekers - stay at home:

Ukraine military turns volunteers away as 140K Ukrainians come home to fight Russia

Although 1.5 million Ukrainians have fled the country amid the Russian invasion, more than 100,000 Ukrainians and others have flocked to Ukraine in order to fight Russian President Vladimir Putin's forces, according to Ukraine Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov.

www.foxnews.com

Volunteers will have to bring their own supplies and weapons. Or NATO and other European countries supply more small arms. We have millions in the states.

 

[gambit]

Gambit, for how long can Russia sustain these types of losses and still achieve its military goals?

900 confirmed losses in 12 days.

Am an Air Force guy, so I try to focus on the air force side of this war. Back in Desert Storm, our airpower went in on the first day and we went in hard and fast. From the start of this war, I have been generous to the Russian Air Force because am looking for some tactics that we have not seen before. But 12 days without the kind of airpower we expects from the Russia is puzzling. We are not seeing anything overwhelming. Ukrainian fighter losses should not have came from a combination of air and ground losses. ALL of them should have been ground destroyed. Instead, Ukrainian fighters continues to sortie and make damages. The Russian Air Force is essentially taking potshots at Ukraine. This is unacceptable.

Air Dominance. The ability of an air force to compel other air forces to rearray themselves, usually into subordinate postures.

Air Superiority. The ability of an air force to achieve tactical control of contested airspace and repeat when necessary. If there are losses, those losses would not be a statistical deterrence to that ability.

Air Supremacy. He flies, he dies.

The Russian Air Force is failing all of the above. The Ukrainian Air Force should not be fearful of SAM because Russian SAM sites can be taken out by combined air and ground troops forces. The Ukrainian Air Force should be fearful of the Russian Air Force, and that is not happening. Any more air losses by the Russian Air Force and it WILL be the opposite. The US is determined that our ground troops will not face enemy air force and the last time that happened was in WW II. If the Russian Air Force is even weakened, not yet removed, from Ukrainian airspace, the ground war will turn in favor of the Ukrainians, even if they are outnumbered. That supply convoy have not moved in days. That convoy cannot be defended. It must move to survive and serve a purpose. The Ukrainian Air Force do not need to destroy it. If the Ukrainian Air Force managed to get a hold of that convoy, we will see Russian troops abandoning their trucks. Trying to survive air attacks is demoralizing, tiring, and stressful beyond belief. Ask the Iraqis and the Taliban.

Here is my horrible suspicion...

I believe the Russians will trap Ukrainian civilians in order to try to keep the Ukrainian Air Force busy. Defending your fellow countrymen, especially if the bulk of them are women, children, and the elderly will be highest priority. If Ukrainian fighters are busy attacking Russian ground forces in trying to protect civilians, they have to descent to below 5000 ft and STAY there and that will leave them vulnerable to SAM and Russian fighters. If this scenario plays out, Russia can drag this war out for weeks even if they take more losses in tanks, trucks, and soldiers.