What's new

Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

Status
Not open for further replies.
Kuch b chalta hai..... Man at least double check the bullshit you post or captions on it. Check the uniforms and equipment of"DOZENS" of paratroopers killed in the given area and check the damned area too.

Dozens of pictures of Russian VDV equipments destroyed and troops killed yesterday north of Kyiv circulating on the internet,the heck are you even talking about ?
 
Is there a clause in the NATO charter that compels the placement of nuclear weapons on a host country?


Take your time to examine the charter doc and point out where.

And u say u have military experience? Do they select low IQ dumbs in US military? Because since yesterday u cant seem to be able to understand a simple point.
I am saying this again,I never said it "compels" but it does give the "option", doesnt it?? So even if placing nukes isnt compulsory, it is an option, which means Ukraine joining NATO have the "option" of allowing NATO nukes on its land. Even having this option is enough reason for Russia to invade. Seriously i feel like arguing with a 5 yr old, though 5 yrs old may have more intelligence than u.
 
@Vergennes
Keep posting them — documenting such things should be neutral.

@jamahir
and Pakistanis should remember that the Ukrainians are our friends in defence procurement M/S Tariq Enterprises of Col Cheema and Brig Niaz fame were instrumental in bringing the Ukrainians to the table for engines for our ageing MI17s and tank engines.

Let’s try to calm down and just observe and it’s not wrong to hold a fondness for either side.

And whilst I have been very openly critical of the one sided journalistic coverage and duplicity is some statements made on experts and observers we should remember and be mindful that history will not judge the Russians lightly for their misadventure in Ukraine.

That much is a fact.

One sided discussions are not discussions they are an echo chamber.
That should BE done. Just pointing out some of his sources are propagating repetitive claims
 
If he is sad about neo-nazis not having nuke, we can probably solve that problem by giving them some. No need to blame Russia for that, just saying. :)
who knows
well European and American are fighting each other over who arm them more , maybe soon you'll do that.
 
who knows
well European and American are fighting each other over who arm them more , maybe soon you'll do that.

Don't know about that, but we are definitely arming Latvia and Estonia, may not be nuclear tho, but we will see.
 
No worries brother. 🙂👍.

What is the latest, Sir, if you can kindly summarize?

I am asking you, because, on this whole thread, you are one of the very few, if I am no mistaken, who appear to be substantially neutral, on this conflict. Most are totally lopsided.
 
Meanwhile aircrafts of the "second's most powerful army" are flying low altitude fearing medium and long range air defence systems (Wait,I thought Russia achieved aerial supremacy?) and because they don't even have targeting pods... they still use unguided bombs...

But why are Ukranian military's much vaunted Turkish drones not harassing Russian soldiers everywhere ? I am not much of a military knowledged person but even I have that simple question.


"Was killed on charges of treason" ? What is the full story ? And yet the tweet has "#StayWithUkraine" ?

@Vergennes
Keep posting them — documenting such things should be neutral.

@jamahir
and Pakistanis should remember that the Ukrainians are our friends in defence procurement M/S Tariq Enterprises of Col Cheema and Brig Niaz fame were instrumental in bringing the Ukrainians to the table for engines for our ageing MI17s and tank engines.

Let’s try to calm down and just observe and it’s not wrong to hold a fondness for either side.

And whilst I have been very openly critical of the one sided journalistic coverage and duplicity is some statements made on experts and observers we should remember and be mindful that history will not judge the Russians lightly for their misadventure in Ukraine.

That much is a fact.

One sided discussions are not discussions they are an echo chamber.

1. I agree with you that we shouldn't have an echo chamber on this thread and on the entire forum and I too am in the habit of writing elaborate posts to those of views opposite to me so that I can understand their POV and put across my point so that what is rational and sensible is what prevails but do look at @Messerschmitt's and @Vergennes' postings on this thread. Nothing from their postings include anything that NATO wouldn't put out in a one-sided manner. Not one post.

2. That you are a sensible person is what I judged for your posts to me and in general your posts on this thread and that is heartening to know.

3. About military collaboration between Pakistan and Ukraine, well, that is better put into context. The political affiliation of those two gentlemen, the directions given to them by the Pakistani government of that time and the fact that had Pakistani history starting with Faiz Ahmed Faiz and his comrades in their attempt to establish Socialist governance in Pakistan and if Pakistani leftists had succeeded in taking over from Zia ul Haq in the 1980s then Pakistani military would have had Russian tank engines, aircraft, ships and other materiel. Sympathy of Pakistanis in this war should not be looked at from narrow immediate collaborations but from historical as well as from moral and geopolitical point of view. :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom