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Some interesting opinions about Russians Unity Forum held in (self-proclaimed) DPR, that reflects some Russian feelings...



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Kiev is definitely in an advantageous position, in fact, having trapped the LDPR eternally to one-sided and Minsk group. The very fact of waging a war is beneficial also, for the Ukrainian government as a distraction, which can be cover up to falling living standards and political and economic failures regularly. Under the same pretext, if desired, it is possible to raise the level of the fight against dissent and internal dividing to the extreme. In the event of a partial defeat of Russians in the Donbass, Kiev will have a wonderful reason to call on the Kremlin to hurl thunderbolts, while demanding another installment plan or even debt restructuring from creditors. In the event of a complete defeat, the Ukrainian rulers will gladly pack their bags and go to spend the stolen goods in the West, where they will most likely be granted as the status of "government in exile". Russia will receive a dubious "prize" with the ravaged Ukrainian lands and tens of thousands of hidden or obvious nationalists, in addition to sanctions.
 
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This events of accounts seems completely overconfidence Russia rolling over Ukraine is not a guaraantee. Ukraine could force it into a war of attrition and would get asistance after some time from the outside
 
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This events of accounts seems completely overconfidence Russia rolling over Ukraine is not a guaraantee. Ukraine could force it into a war of attrition and would get asistance after some time from the outside
ha ha ..you're in denial, just come out and say it- Russia displayed mighty ,serious force, THAT NATO , US NOR UKRAINE WAS READY TO MATCH.

when you say Ukraine will force Russia into a war of attrition do you mean to say Ukraine will be destroyed and nonexistent as a state soon but will keep holding out against Russia??? Russia won in this round, go sit down bra.
 
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ha ha ..you're in denial, just come out and say it- Russia displayed mighty ,serious force, THAT NATO , US NOR UKRAINE WAS READY TO MATCH.

when you say Ukraine will force Russia into a war of attrition do you mean to say Ukraine will be destroyed and nonexistent as a state soon but will keep holding out against Russia??? Russia won in this round, go sit down bra.

War is not like an MMA fight or comic book storyline where someone can just lay out the opponent via one punch. When a large group of people collide with another large group of people things tend to drag out. considering both are well armed. War of attrition is not only a possiblitity but a reality in such a conflict. You just don't run thru a country with 41mio population that is heavily armed in this modern world. Depending on their will power and fuelled by patriotism it will be one hell'va fight. I would favor Russia if it is one vs one without a doubt and Russia is the stronger of the two but Ukraine won't fold without a gruelling fight but the thing is that the surrounding nations might come in aid to Ukraine altering the real outcome which would have been a Russian victory after grinding down Ukraine for 8-10 years
 
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Ukraine must abandon it's NATO membership bid and stop all anti-Russian activities. This is the only option for peace.
 
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Ukraine must abandon it's NATO membership bid and stop all anti-Russian activities. This is the only option for peace.

Russia wants everything east of Dnipro river this is unacceptable for Ukraine they will have no other option but to fight. This is why the Ukrainian president said we don't want war but we are ready for one. Ukraine is already a stargetic partner of NATO this will not change and especially after what happened here
 
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Russia wants everything east of Dnipro river this is unacceptable for Ukraine they will have no other option but to fight. This is why the Ukrainian president said we don't want war but we are ready for one. Ukraine is already a stargetic partner of NATO this will not change and especially after what happened here

Russia wants everything east of Dnipro, but is not willing to pay the price for it.

As usual, they are militarily brave but politically cowardly, which is why NATO has been encroaching on it's borders for years now.
 
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Russia wants everything east of Dnipro river this is unacceptable for Ukraine they will have no other option but to fight. This is why the Ukrainian president said we don't want war but we are ready for one. Ukraine is already a stargetic partner of NATO this will not change and especially after what happened here
From your post, i can conclude that you surely believe everything AMericans/your gov tells you....smh....i woud've thought PDF Would have educated you better on these issues. but trust me, i wont waste my brain and time trying to educate you, cuz you dont want it, like a typical egotistical American- you only know you've crashed when its too late. cheers.
 
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From your post, i can conclude that you surely believe everything AMericans/your gov tells you....smh....i woud've thought PDF Would have educated you better on these issues. but trust me, i wont waste my brain and time trying to educate you, cuz you dont want it, like a typical egotistical American- you only know you've crashed when its too late. cheers.

Just because I believe in more realistic ground realities doesn't mean I am feed up with American media in fact I don't agree with 90% of the news or their blatant propaganda but this is from objective point of view
 
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The best way to stop any imminent small scale conflict which can turn into a larger scale conflict would be Ukraine declaring a plan to integrate Donbass region fully back within 3-5 years. This would involve amnesty to residents as well as securty guarantees that involve gradual pullout of both army and locals(which should cooperate) giving up weapons. Independant drones can look for reduction of arms in the region taking the pictures of the area. Also economic incentives that would be given to that area like investments. Ukraine can take Eu as an investor partner in that region as well that contains mines and now idle industry which can be brought back online again. Locals living in Donbass can be planned to work in those industries and after investments.

A carefully thought out plan would take out any moral-ethical background of a pending Russian military operation so it wont happen in that case in my opinion. Other than that if Ukraine decides to strike first the Donbass region with the aim of taking control before Russia does then it would give pretext and excuse for Putin to start an operation or an enhanced proxy warfare situation. I think Usa wants a conflict as it would increase oil prices as well as dollar value giving some boost to its economy that was hit by covid pandemic selling more weapons to nato countries as well as Ukraine. For Putin it is the same as a conflict would hide potential economic failures which is partly because of covid pandemic giving the foreign sanctions and military ops as an excuse for bad economy. If Ukraine takes right actions and wont play this game of conflict it has much more to gain.

If they can successfully pull it off in Donbass they can do a similar approach in Crimea as well and gain partial control in that region with Russia in my opinion through negotiations and incentives. But they need to give up nato membership plan in return as it would mean a very possible conflict scenario with Russia to come to an agreement for Crimea.
 
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The best way to stop any imminent small scale conflict which can turn into a larger scale conflict would be Ukraine declaring a plan to integrate Donbass region fully back within 3-5 years. This would involve amnesty to residents as well as securty guarantees that involve gradual pullout of both army and locals(which should cooperate) giving up weapons. Independant drones can look for reduction of arms in the region taking the pictures of the area. Also economic incentives that would be given to that area like investments. Ukraine can take Eu as an investor partner in that region as well that contains mines and now idle industry which can be brought back online again. Locals living in Donbass can be planned to work in those industries and after investments.

A carefully thought out plan would take out any moral-ethical background of a pending Russian military operation so it wont happen in that case in my opinion. Other than that if Ukraine decides to strike first the Donbass region with the aim of taking control before Russia does then it would give pretext and excuse for Putin to start an operation or an enhanced proxy warfare situation. I think Usa wants a conflict as it would increase oil prices as well as dollar value giving some boost to its economy that was hit by covid pandemic selling more weapons to nato countries as well as Ukraine. For Putin it is the same as a conflict would hide potential economic failures which is partly because of covid pandemic giving the foreign sanctions and military ops as an excuse for bad economy. If Ukraine takes right actions and wont play this game of conflict it has much more to gain.

If they can successfully pull it off in Donbass they can do a similar approach in Crimea as well and gain partial control in that region with Russia in my opinion through negotiations and incentives. But they need to give up nato membership plan in return as it would mean a very possible conflict scenario with Russia to come to an agreement for Crimea.

Russia will never accept to release crimea and donbass making this a non-starter nor will Ukraine accept to share CRIMEA
 
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Russia will never accept to release crimea and donbass making this a non-starter nor will Ukraine accept to share CRIMEA


Crimea is much harder to solve. The control was sort of mixed before 2014 events. Maybe the most that can be done would be rolling back to those conditions. But before Donbass is solved it is impossible to gain momentum or leverage to do something there.

If Ukraine comes up with an integration and solid deescalation plan about Donbass which is carefully monitored then another country such as Russia even militarily powerful wont be able to say much about not giving Ukraines own land back to Ukraine. Officially they dont claim anything on Donbass which is different from Crimean issue.
 
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Unfortunately, efforts seem to have been in vain. The tension is at its height and the US seems to want a war with all its might, the thought that we have passed the inevitable point is predominant.

The UK has issued an urgent call for its citizens to leave Ukraine. The United States began carry its citizens back to the country.

The United States has announced that it is withdrawing from its ceasefire monitoring mission in Ukraine.

Hard days begin for everyone...

Ukraine and Russia together are the world's wheat warehouse. Big food inflation is coming.
 
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