Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen
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I remember western propaganda machines have reported russian is running out of ammo,now turns out the truth is Ukrainian is running out of weapons despite NATO sending all weapons they could send? Your propaganda bullshit is remarkble. No wonder you can hide behind of your propaganda machine,their face is as thick as a wall.
Russian lost major ammo dumps this week, they predictably pushed infantry forward, anticipating them soon running out of fire support.
Izyum direction sees as much fighting now as Severo.
Come on you know NATO support is already minimal yet they have dealt important blows to the Russian army. If NATO support was full,Ukraine would already have hundreds of jets,HIMARS,tanks,anti ship missiles,air defence systems etc...
Russian lost major ammo dumps this week, they predictably pushed infantry forward, anticipating them soon running out of fire support.
Izyum direction sees as much fighting now as Severo.
Its actually sickening you keep reposting this russian propaganda about ukrainian forces using civilians as shields. They are defending their country and citizens, while Russia is using that lame excuse to flatten everything moving forward, because all advantage they have left is artillery power.
You only belive Donbas wants to break away because a mix of russian forces and russian backed seperatists took control of minor parts of the area holding the population hostage, and then claimed to represent the entire region. Youre parotting russian propaganda as if it holds any truth.If they are only defending their citizens,then why donbass people want to break from ukraine in the first place? Those people who speak russian aren't 'citizen' to those nazis,right? Western propaganda is ridiculous.
You sure do know how civilians react when an invading force enters their country, dont you? They didnt have time to evacuate Mariupol. Even the ukrainian army got trapped because of the russian advance in the south. The civilians didnt want to be “evacuated” to Russia, and the russians didnt want to let them leave for Ukraine.It's not propaganda, Mariupol defenders use civilians as human shield. In war time, u think civilian wants to be trapped in bunkers? Most of them would of fled already, and its up to Ukranian military to evacuate civilians from urban areas in the first place. It's telling that we keep hearing civilians trapped again and again in major defensive positions.
U just don't get my point, two issues here: 1. Competence of Ukraine logistics, so far Russian advances have been very slow, and we see that in the map updates. But Ukraine refuse to withdraw troops and Civilians in major urban areas. Lyschansk is next, and according to you Russians are advancing too fast. That's BS. Siege of Mariupool took month. Severondonesk has been in the crossfire for Months.... Yet Civilians still traped again and again. My questions is why Ukraine military refuse to evacuate these civilians in these plants prior to being surronded when they had time to acts 2. Ukraine tactics, if Ukraine had time to evacuate the civilians, then the question is would these civilians volunteer to hide in these plants knowing the state of the war? Common sense tells me no, and these civilians are being arbitrarily held in these bunkers. Ukraine oligarchs thought sanction would hurt Russia and if these plants held out long enough, Ukraine eventually will be able to send in the cavalry and recapture these cities. But to hold on, and win the war in global sentiment, civilians trapped in these plants stall sieges and can drag on the siege as long as possible.You sure do know how civilians react when an invading force enters their country, dont you? They didnt have time to evacuate Mariupol. Even the ukrainian army got trapped because of the russian advance in the south. The civilians didnt want to be “evacuated” to Russia, and the russians didnt want to let them leave for Ukraine.
But no, lets pretend the russian narrative is the truth, eventhough no independant media is allowed to operate in Russia or occupied areas in Ukraine, and label anything reported from the ukrainian side of the front lies and fake news.
Be careful your propaganda is banned in EU. Do you want me do an experiment? I can send your posts to the german authorities and through EU laws you get punished. I got a guy on Facebook with this already.
1.) Sieverodonetsk is NOT trapped. Russian only surrounded the area from 3 sides. The South is open, which mean even those bridges were blown, civilian CAN BE evacuated by boat or anything that can cross river IF there is a Lull in fighting. Problem is, that Lull never happened.U just don't get my point, two issues here: 1. Competence of Ukraine logistics, so far Russian advances have been very slow, and we see that in the map updates. But Ukraine refuse to withdraw troops and Civilians in major urban areas. Siege of Mariupool took month. Severondonesk has been in the crossfire for Months.... Yet Civilians still traped again and again. My questions is why Ukraine military refuse to evacuate these civilians in these plants prior to being surronded when they had time to acts 2. Ukraine tactics, if Ukraine had time to evacuate the civilians, then the question is would these civilians volunteer to hide in these plants knowing the state of the war? Common sense tells me no, and these civilians are being arbitrarily held in these bunkers. Ukraine oligarchs thought sanction would hurt Russia and if these plants held out long enough, Ukraine eventually will be able to send in the cavalry and recapture these cities. But to hold on, and win the war in global sentiment, civilians trapped in these plants stall sieges and can drag on the conflict as long as possible.