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Then it is all unverified.

Russia version will be more credulius since the evidence is with them. The warship itself.

Daily Mail is from just from one single photo and that is flimsy.

A single photo of a man next to the car that was destroyed and he is condemned as an arsonist.

So why are you insisting that your version is right.

You have to prove it to us using more scientific argument then instead by spreading someone else version with a photo which to many of us already knew but the rest are just US or UK Propaganda.

Given how Russia has lied every single day about everything - the Russian account means little right now.

You are welcome to believe the Russian "version" of events, and I will believe the West's.

Given that the "west" has been more right than wrong on this war - I feel comfortable i have the right sequence of events of what has happened.



There are 3 possibilities:
1- The cruiser was hit by two missiles and its ammunition depot exploded
2- There is treachery and internal work that led to the destruction of the warehouse on the cruiser
3- Unexplained fire caused an explosion

Wow if you go frame by frame at about 1.5secs - you can see the missile strike the ship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Given how Russia has lied every single day about everything - the Russian account means little right now.

You are welcome to believe the Russian "version" of events, and I will believe the West's.

Given that the "west" has been more right than wrong on this war - I feel comfortable i have the right sequence of events of what has happened.



Wow if you go frame by frame at about 1.5secs - you can see the missile strike the ship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That’s an old video
 
Wow if you go frame by frame at about 1.5secs - you can see the missile strike the ship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats 100% not moscow it was night and it supposed to be bad weather

Not 100% with ukraine but a lose move by Le Pen security ? The last second when all reporters rush after the girl :D

 
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Given how Russia has lied every single day about everything - the Russian account means little right now.

You are welcome to believe the Russian "version" of events, and I will believe the West's.

Given that the "west" has been more right than wrong on this war - I feel comfortable i have the right sequence of events of what has happened.



Wow if you go frame by frame at about 1.5secs - you can see the missile strike the ship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually I feel the reverse. The West seems to have employed the strategy of shoot-first-no-question-later. First, the snake island fiasco. Lately the Russian missile with cluster bombs on civilians. The moment their claims were rebuked, they just moved on to new claims. Even Pentagon follows the same practice, claiming Russians are going to use chemical weapons without a shred of proof. They openly admitted of having no proof but claimed that they wanted to use lies to prevent Russians from actually using chemical weapons. Quite lame. Pentagon seems to have realized the problem of doing this and has been more honest lately.

On the contrary, Russia has been more reserved. It is more accurate to assess the ground progress based on the news coming from Russia.
 

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Previously, Ukraine had apparently attacked a fuel tank in Russia with Mi-24 helicopters


Putin needs a real excuse to crush Ukraine..
 
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So the ship really did not sink and us is not confirming a missile hit. So just another round of lies by ukraine.
 
So the ship really did not sink and us is not confirming a missile hit. So just another round of lies by ukraine.
I would believe a Ukrainian strike, but the strange thing is that US has stayed quiet about this. If true they would have broadcasted it to the world.

It's still open verdict from me at present.
 
NATO's red line should be Russia current borders. not an inch of occupied territory should be accepted as Russian. South Ossetia, Crimea, etc etc. squeeze russia for 300 years if necessary until it withdraws

NATO would be very happy to have such a red line goal as long as the fighting is done by ukrainian and other eastern europeans. And btw all the weapons supplied by us are based on deferred payments - not free stuff. It may take ukraine 300 years to pay for it and uncle sam will come to collect his bills.
 
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