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Kadyrov tiktok clowns strike again.... and those guys are supposed to be elite forces
It looks like manufacturing and spreading fake news is the motto for the Zelenskyites.
First Ukraine need lot more anti ship weapons from uk and usa to keep sinking pathetic Russian navy assets.
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The Russian air force has complete air supremacy over the Ukrainian skies.
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Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had a 'massive heart attack not from natural causes' and TWENTY generals 'have been arrested' over bungled invasion
Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had 'massive heart attack'
Shoigu, Putin's right hand man and leader of the Russian army for a decade, was a mainstay in the early weeks of the war in Ukraine but recently disappeared from Kremlin briefings.
Putin blaming everyone except him self LolPutin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had a 'massive heart attack not from natural causes' and TWENTY generals 'have been arrested' over bungled invasion
Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had 'massive heart attack'
Shoigu, Putin's right hand man and leader of the Russian army for a decade, was a mainstay in the early weeks of the war in Ukraine but recently disappeared from Kremlin briefings.www.dailymail.co.uk
Typical dictators
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ofc i shat my pants when i first saw it lol
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I saw it. Ukrainian or Russian tank taking out Ukrainian soldiers. That is how I understood that video. That was a massacre.
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Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had a 'massive heart attack not from natural causes' and TWENTY generals 'have been arrested' over bungled invasion
Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu has had 'massive heart attack'
Shoigu, Putin's right hand man and leader of the Russian army for a decade, was a mainstay in the early weeks of the war in Ukraine but recently disappeared from Kremlin briefings.
IMO More likely a FAKE news in rhe making.
I seen too many of these esp. from the Russian hating English News Media.
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Russians have anything like AEGIS Combat System?
Let us have a look at American kinetic options below.
For Air Defense role:
SM-3 missile variants can be used to intercept ballistic missiles in Midcourse phase:
U.S. Successfully Conducts SM-3 Block IIA Intercept Test Against an Intercontinental Balli
The U.S. Missile Defense Agency and U.S. Navy sailors aboard the USS John Finn intercepted and destroyed a threat-representative Intercontinental Ballistic Missile target during a flight test
www.defense.gov
SM-2 and SM-6 missile variants can be used to intercept ballistic missiles as well as cruise missiles in Terminal phase:
Sea Sparrow missile variants can be used to intercept cruise missiles in Terminal phase:
Evolved Seasparrow Missile Block 2 Successfully Intercepts Aerial Target in First Live Fire Test - USNI News
The Evolved Seasparrow Missile Block 2 successfully intercepted an aerial target with its active guidance seeker-head, in the missile's first live fire test
news.usni.org
NOTE: United States Navy (USN) Arleigh Burke class Destroyers and Ticonderoga class Cruisers are armed with these munitions.
Correction, or just a mere difference in opinion.
A hit from Chinese AShCM will be sufficient for it to be over for any USA carrier.
But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier. As well as raining DF21s DF26s from high above.
No shit about bulkheads and spaces to contain the hellfire that will likely engulf the entire carrier.
And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.
Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.
In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.
YJ-12 - Wikipedia
There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .
China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?
This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].
The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.
See above.
There is much leap in logic in your post.
1. There is NO need for American Aircraft Carrier(s) to operate very close to Chinese coasts in the Pacific to begin with.
Even the nearest would be operating at a distance of hundreds of KMs from Chinese coasts in open ocean.
2. American Aircraft Carrier(s) are very likely to have incredible "situational awareness."
A combination of aircraft, UAVs and satellites are used for surveillance to create a battlefield picture for the entire American Carrier Battle Group to detect and track a wide range of threats in real-time. The system in use is called Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC).
Escorts such Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Ticonderoga class cruisers - each is armed with an assortment of kinetic interceptors to engage hostile aircraft, UAVs and missiles (see above), and also armed with long-range cruise missiles to engage facilitating radar systems and missile launchers from a distance of over 1000 KM and soften coastal defenses of the hostile country by extension.
3. In light of the above, there is no guarantee that Chinese forces would be able to subject an American Aircraft Carrier to a volley of 100 missiles in short order.
- American Aircraft Carrier(s) can hit 30+ knots in open ocean.
- Escorts will be used to subject incoming Chinese ASBM and cruise missiles to intercepting, jamming and spoofing activities.
How to Kill China's 'Carrier-Killer' Missile: Jam, Spoof and Shoot
China has developed a missile that would turn an aircraft carrier into a two-billion-dollar hulk of twisted metal, flame, and dead sailors. Publicly, the
gizmodo.com
What if they manage to jam Beidou navigation system? ASBM such as DF-21D and DF-26 depend upon cues from Beidou navigation system to engage a moving ship.
U.S. Admiral: China Can ‘Keep Pouring Money’ Into Anti-Ship Ballistic Missiles - USNI News
China can continue spending money on anti-ship ballistic missiles, but it might not be the capability needed to win if a conflict broke out between the U.S. and China, the admiral overseeing Navy intelligence said Wednesday. Vice Adm. Jeffrey Trussler, the deputy chief of naval operations for...
news.usni.org
- Chinese forces will be engaged in the process.
For Anti-ship role:
Harpoon missile variants
Range = 250+ KM
SLAM-ER Missile
SLAM-ER roots go back to the original Harpoon anti-ship missile placed in the fleet in the late 1970s. Because of emerging operational requirements, the Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM) was
www.navy.mil
NOTE: Launched through aircraft and ships.
SM-6 missile variants
Range = 370 KM
Anti-Aircraft Missile Sinks Ship: Navy SM-6 - Breaking Defense
The supersonic SM-6 Standard Missile, designed to shoot down incoming aircraft and cruise missiles, has sunk a target ship in a test. The decommissioned frigate Reuben James went down off Hawaii in the January event, just disclosed today. The test was part of the Navy’s effort to rebuild its...
Navy SM-6 Missile Successfully Hit A Target Barge During Big Manned-Unmanned Teaming Test
The live-fire missile shoot was part of a larger drone-focused experiment that also included swarming technology and various unmanned platforms.
www.thedrive.com
NOTE: Launched through ships.
LRASM
Range = 560 KM
NOTE: Launched through aircraft.
Tomahawk Block Va
(undergoing trials)
Range = 1600+ KM
USS Chafee Conducts First Operational Test of Tomahawk Block V - Naval News
U.S. Navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Chafee (DDG 90) made history being the first to launch and operationally test a Block V Tomahawk cruise missile.
www.navalnews.com
NOTE: Launched through ships.
Expect heavy losses in a battle.
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It is surprising to note that some Chinese members think of USN as a joke. Maybe study naval warfare for a change?
It is possible for a large Chinese force composition to defeat an American Carrier Battle Group in a battle in open ocean in theory but not without suffering heavy losses in the exchange. The particular Chinese force composition will be toast as well.
Problem is that there are multiple American Carrier Battle Groups to account for, and I have yet to expand on capabilities of American allies in the Pacific.
Be realistic, comrade.
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