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In the past 10-15 years there has been no tech or doctrine transfer from Russia to China or vice versa so there's no comparison. Russia has their way of doing things, China has another way of doing things. It's interesting that in a thread about Russia and Ukraine you can't get your mind off China though.Lol wut. As so often, you missed the point. Note I said '...give China a new Desert Storm...' Because you never served, you missed the context of 'new'. So I will explain it to you.
Every war will garner attention and these are always the questions:
The last time were questions 1-4 with Desert Storm. Since then, no one came up with anything new.
- Who are the combatants?
- What are the technologies, including new technologies?
- How are the technologies employed?
- What are the outcomes?
- Can we replicate the outcomes?
When Xi ordered Poutine to invade Ukraine, he expected the Russian military to CREATE a new version of Desert Storm, one that used technologies unknown to the rest of the world and/or uniquely applied that no one thought of before. Take GPS, for one example. Who thought of coupling a GPS guidance unit to bombs? The US did. The world knew of the F-117, but never seen the jet applied to such a scale before. For decades, the world was continuously impressed about Soviet/Russian technologies, so Xi fully expected the Russian military to deliver a new version of Desert Storm and the Russian military failed regarding questions 2 to 4. The Russian military, Army and Air Force, performed as if it was in WW II, contrary to all the glossy brochures Russia have been handing out all these yrs. Russia sold China the proverbial 'bill of goods' and Xi gambled China's future on Poutine. And the Russian military failed. Russia will take Ukraine and make occupation, but that success will rest on sheer numerical superiority instead of innovations.
For the PLA's leadership, the generals are mouths agape with shock, and not of the positive kind. Without the positive answers from Russia on questions 2 thru 4, the PLA cannot answer question 5, especially regarding Taiwan. So the PLA have to go back to the old Desert Storm where it is uncertain if China can replicate the outcomes on what it has today. That is what I meant with 'new Desert Storm'. But I guess you got a few 'Likes' out of that misunderstanding and that was all that mattered.
Video shared below. One of Zelenskyy's diplomatic advisers giving a long interview to an Indian channel. Too early to tell what he is really trying to say, minus the required bravado. To me it looks like Israel maybe playing a significant role in a de-escalation @sammuel . Ukraine is still asking for significant air-support-- but backing off from the No Fly Zone request but other support like more powerful missiles and aircrafts; also looks like Ukraine's control of the skies is under grave threat. Ukrainians are in constant touch with Americans [surprise, surprise!]. The Russian position is slightly 'generally more positive' in negotiations.
I just hope peace prevails.
And to the Pakistanis: Don't let the recent issues with America cloud your judgement. Except for gains for Pakistan's ally China, Pakistan doesn't have a dog in this fight. India, on the contrary, is significantly affected at least in short term in case of a Russian debacle. One would not be wrong to think that a Russian defeat and a Russian becoming more dependent on China is a benefit for Pakistan and at least short term loss for India.
Anyway, here is the video:
If there were no technological advances from Russia, then all the more reasons Xi erred in overestimating Russia. You may not like China being dragged into this, but Xi dragged China into this. The discussion is no longer about Ukraine. We know that Russia, thru sheer numerical superiority, will take over Ukraine. I do not know of anyone in this discussion thinks otherwise. The inevitable coming questions will involve China. Two great powers made one great fv<k-up.In the past 10-15 years there has been no tech or doctrine transfer from Russia to China or vice versa so there's no comparison. Russia has their way of doing things, China has another way of doing things. It's interesting that in a thread about Russia and Ukraine you can't get your mind off China though.
As the eagle once said, " number one bull@#$!"Passionate speech by a Ukrainian volunteer - he has a message for America:
So likely 18K-24k wounded, and a few thousand POWs.
You helplessly brainwashed mind must be extremely surprised if I tell you that there are a significant number of Chinese public actually support Ukraine, isn't it?
You are delusional, they are there and can see what’s going on while you speculate.No, it means they are delusional.
Please invade Taiwan and teach these western imperialism a lesson China can not lose