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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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keep a venomous viper as pet then moan when it bites you in the arse
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Opinion Researcher Lev Gudkov: "Russians Have Little Compassion for the Ukrainians"
Lev Gudkov investigates what makes Russians tick with his independent opinion research institute. In an interview, he discusses the lack of morals in his home country, Russia's victim mentality and fears of nuclear war.
DER SPIEGEL: The war itself isn’t being questioned?
Gudkov: No, the attacks on Ukraine and the massacres play no role. The Russians have little compassion for the Ukrainians. Almost no one here talks about the fact that people are being killed in Ukraine.
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DER SPIEGEL: More than 10,000 men are reported to have been killed in this war, according to independent Russian media, and tens of thousands according to Western sources. Are people aware of the losses?
Gudkov: Not really. We are experiencing total censorship. Facebook and Twitter are blocked, as are many internet media outlets. The share of those who know how to circumvent the blockages through VPNs (services that establish an encrypted online connection) has risen from around 6 to 8 percent to 23 percent, but it is still small. They are mostly younger, educated residents of the largest cities. The predominant share of the population is still exposed to propaganda. For the clear majority, especially older Russians, the only authoritative sources of information are the state television channels
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One wonders why Putin seemingly acted prematurely (with the invasion of the Crimea). Things seemed going well on all fronts, including Europe shunning the US on Nord Stream 2, Trump having a good shot for reelection (I believe Russian war on Ukraine was a major factor in Democrat's relative success in mid-elections), a peace-nulled Europe with singular reliance on the US for defense, Western democracies shifting towards the right, US mired in domestic problems, etc.
Was it because Putin was getting old, hence he wanted to finish the job? Or, did he smell some potential threat at home to his long rule? Was he coaxed/fooled into the invasion by external persuasion? Or, simply did he suffer 'great man syndrome,' which is usual for people who get all-powerful surrounded by yes-men in an unusually long tenure?
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Nah, I am in Germany, banging those German chicks like everyone else is doing including asylum seekers. Ever since Germany was defeated in WWII, that whole country was free for all. From Soviet army, to American GIs, to asylum seekers, Germany is prey for everyone. loooooooooool
Now, here are the Germans who are quitting their army because they don't want to face the Russians again. The Russians must have sure left a mark in the Germans that they don't want to face the Russian army again.
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It is Ukrainian people demanding weapons and doing the resistance.
Ukrainian people don't have another better option. The alternative is occupation by a foreign enemy.
It is Putin who does not care about the Russian deaths. His armies are in a foreign country, dying in scores
In fact, he plans to push more of them into the battlefield in a foreign country that hates them.
Russia can bomb their own schools and hospitals inside Russia if it finds 600 foreign military personnel and lots of foreign military ammunition in them.
Russia can bomb their own schools and hospitals inside Russia if it finds 600 foreign military personnel and lots of foreign military ammunition in them.
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Novorossiya is Russian-speaking and they voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. Now, the Russian army who are fighting to protect the Russian-speaking communities there are not in foreign land; they're in their own country. Similarly, southern Ukraine is overwhelmingly Russian-speaking as well, and its liberation is coming as well.
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Very sad for that poor fella. I don't really think the bankers in NY and London know or care about what happened to that fella.
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The ultra-MAGA Russia Republicans fight in the US has huge implications into the funding and supplying of Ukraine in this war.
The debt ceiling fight has both direct and indirect implications:
Directly, by less for Ukraine, perhaps no more arms and funds for Ukraine because of no raise in the debt ceiling.
Indirectly, is the MAGA fight over not only debt, government shutdown, not wanting lend-lease, the smallest bit of help for Ukraine is going to be blocked by these Trumper Putinites in the House.
The ways around it is to have Democrats block military funding unless Ukraine and Europe are defended and link military funding to arming Ukraine. This could get support in the Senate, however, two Democrats in the senate are Republican-lite, from WV and from AZ. So with only a one seat majority, losing two senators means idea this could be stopped. The Senate could filibuster on US defense spending to force Republicans to arm Ukraine and defend Europe.
The other way to arm Ukraine is Lend-lease. This could by-pass budget.
This is one of the many reasons why Europe needs to be able to take on Russia alone, with a military far greater than 15K tanks, 20K artillery, 50K armored vehicles. Russia Republicans are the evidence that Europe is alone, when the traitor caucus of MAGA Russia Republicans are in Washington.
Europe does not need to supply Ukraine with free weapons, Europe needs weapons to prevent a war with Russia.
I said Europe needs to arm itself to the teeth because Russia Republicans either overtly side with Putin or covertly side with Putin.
This war can only be followed by peace if it ends with the complete military and political defeat of Putin’s Russia and the dismantling of the current regime. Putin’s state must cease to exist: not Russia, but the current state, hostile to the entire world, itself included. Any other outcome would only result in a temporary ceasefire, as once Putin’s regime will simply go on another attack as soon as it's replenished its strength.
www.themoscowtimes.com
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Russian Defense Chief Says Military Factories Working ‘Around the Clock’
Said EU nations need to work around the clock in making arms. Got only gales of stupid laughter in reply.
Russian arms industry is working around the clock to defeat Europe. Are EU arms industry working around the clock to defend Europe.?.
Russia supporters from China, Iran to Russia Republicans are enemies of Europe. These individuals want the EU to collapse and the euro and ECB to fail. These are Europe's enemies.
Putin cronies do not want a strong Europe.
Putin cronies want a weak, divided and dependent EU, dependent on Washington for defense. So no help would arrive with Russia Republicans in Washington.
For this an many reasons. Europe needs to re-arm.
Putin knows that Russia Republicans want war with China. Expect a Russian invasion of Europe if the US decides on war with China. As Russia Republicans are busy with defeating China, Putin plans to annex much of Europe.
www.newsweek.com
Russia Republicans want their war with China, yet are opposed to sending arms to have Europe defend from invasion from their buddy Putin.
Russia Republicans have returned, and these individuals are for letting Europe fall to Putin. While pushing for a war with China. This means they are not fiscal conservatives. It means this is true:
www.theguardian.com
So, if you are for a prosperous and successful EU, Russia Republicans are your enemy.
The debt ceiling fight has both direct and indirect implications:
MSN
www.msn.com
Directly, by less for Ukraine, perhaps no more arms and funds for Ukraine because of no raise in the debt ceiling.
Indirectly, is the MAGA fight over not only debt, government shutdown, not wanting lend-lease, the smallest bit of help for Ukraine is going to be blocked by these Trumper Putinites in the House.
The ways around it is to have Democrats block military funding unless Ukraine and Europe are defended and link military funding to arming Ukraine. This could get support in the Senate, however, two Democrats in the senate are Republican-lite, from WV and from AZ. So with only a one seat majority, losing two senators means idea this could be stopped. The Senate could filibuster on US defense spending to force Republicans to arm Ukraine and defend Europe.
The other way to arm Ukraine is Lend-lease. This could by-pass budget.
This is one of the many reasons why Europe needs to be able to take on Russia alone, with a military far greater than 15K tanks, 20K artillery, 50K armored vehicles. Russia Republicans are the evidence that Europe is alone, when the traitor caucus of MAGA Russia Republicans are in Washington.
Europe does not need to supply Ukraine with free weapons, Europe needs weapons to prevent a war with Russia.
I said Europe needs to arm itself to the teeth because Russia Republicans either overtly side with Putin or covertly side with Putin.
This war can only be followed by peace if it ends with the complete military and political defeat of Putin’s Russia and the dismantling of the current regime. Putin’s state must cease to exist: not Russia, but the current state, hostile to the entire world, itself included. Any other outcome would only result in a temporary ceasefire, as once Putin’s regime will simply go on another attack as soon as it's replenished its strength.
Once Unthinkable, Capitulation Could Still Be Russia's Saving Grace - The Moscow Times
Opinion | The war started by Vladimir Putin has no goals that can be achieved.
Russian Defense Chief Says Military Factories Working ‘Around the Clock’ - The Moscow Times
Factories in Russia producing military equipment are working nonstop and have withdrawn New Year holidays from employees, the head of state defense military conglomerate Rostec Sergei Chemezov said Monday. “Rostec’s factories involved in fulfilling state contracts are working almost around the...
Russian Defense Chief Says Military Factories Working ‘Around the Clock’
Said EU nations need to work around the clock in making arms. Got only gales of stupid laughter in reply.
Russian arms industry is working around the clock to defeat Europe. Are EU arms industry working around the clock to defend Europe.?.
Russia supporters from China, Iran to Russia Republicans are enemies of Europe. These individuals want the EU to collapse and the euro and ECB to fail. These are Europe's enemies.
Putin cronies do not want a strong Europe.
Putin cronies want a weak, divided and dependent EU, dependent on Washington for defense. So no help would arrive with Russia Republicans in Washington.
For this an many reasons. Europe needs to re-arm.
Putin knows that Russia Republicans want war with China. Expect a Russian invasion of Europe if the US decides on war with China. As Russia Republicans are busy with defeating China, Putin plans to annex much of Europe.
Republicans Pressure Biden to Commit to War With China Over Taiwan
Republicans Pressure Biden to Commit to War With China Over Taiwan
"Twice @POTUS has said America would defend Taiwan if invaded, and twice the White House has walked it back," GOP Senator Rick Scott tweeted.
www.newsweek.com
Russia Republicans want their war with China, yet are opposed to sending arms to have Europe defend from invasion from their buddy Putin.
Russia Republicans have returned, and these individuals are for letting Europe fall to Putin. While pushing for a war with China. This means they are not fiscal conservatives. It means this is true:
Why Trump and his team want to wipe out the EU
Why Trump and his team want to wipe out the EU | Natalie Nougayrède
Mike Pompeo’s wooing of eastern Europe is part of a wider ideological battle, says Guardian columnist Natalie Nougayrède
So, if you are for a prosperous and successful EU, Russia Republicans are your enemy.
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You think of every war in WWII terms.
You need to improve quality of your responses or I might think about your access in this thread.
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Russia Republicans want actual war with nuclear China. A war of China vs USA, over Taiwan.
Yet, Russia Republicans want to block military supplies to Ukraine to defend Europe. Ukraine is doing the fighting to defend Europe, not the USA, and Russian Republicans want to block arms to Ukraine.
Let that sink in to you. The loss of Taiwan is more important to these "white" nationalist 5th column traitor Republicans than the loss of Europe.
This has returned to Washington. The House is to support Putin, by not defending Europe from Russia.
Russia is a torture state. If you oppose your fuhrer in Russia, you could be arrested and tortured.
www.newsweek.com
There is a free fraud zone, free torture zone in Russia. If you anger your former buddy Putin, Putin takes your hotel complex in sochi. If you distribute 1984 in Russia for free, you are kidnapped by the "Russian government". Russia is the enemy of Europe, a terrorist state, and Russia Republicans refuse to defend Europe from their buddy Putin.
Yet, Russia Republicans want to block military supplies to Ukraine to defend Europe. Ukraine is doing the fighting to defend Europe, not the USA, and Russian Republicans want to block arms to Ukraine.
Let that sink in to you. The loss of Taiwan is more important to these "white" nationalist 5th column traitor Republicans than the loss of Europe.
This has returned to Washington. The House is to support Putin, by not defending Europe from Russia.
Russia is a torture state. If you oppose your fuhrer in Russia, you could be arrested and tortured.
Torture in Russia Becoming 'Government Policy,' Warns Disbanding NGO
Amid the Ukraine War, the Russian Committee for the Prevention of Torture struggled as police arrested thousands of anti-war protesters.
www.newsweek.com
There is a free fraud zone, free torture zone in Russia. If you anger your former buddy Putin, Putin takes your hotel complex in sochi. If you distribute 1984 in Russia for free, you are kidnapped by the "Russian government". Russia is the enemy of Europe, a terrorist state, and Russia Republicans refuse to defend Europe from their buddy Putin.
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Can anyone survive the shock wave from the explosion, seems to be an awful weapon?
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It has no sense that Russia uses nukes against Ukraine.
It has sense Russian using nukes against rich non-Nuclear western countries like Germany, to blow up them and loot them.
Russia shows some restraint against Ukraine, because it's the same people.
But that doesnt apply to the West. And when the time will come, USA will do nothing. All the west (except real nuclear states like UK, France, USA) are future looted land zones for Russian troops.
Watch and save well your washing machine.
