Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[ZeGerman]

ZeGerman, you are trying to win the argument that if more people are killed thats more just cause than when less people are killed. That makes no sense.

1. People that are violently and mercilessly attacked should have their attackers equally sanctioned.
2. The world does not start/stop at Gazans: for 50 years, they have been getting killed or equally bad fate of having to vacate land and give up homes to settlers. This settlement expansion is happening in Israel today, right under the nose of countries who look the other way, including the back stabbing GCC nations. ONLY Ben and Jerry's , a hippy ice cream company had the guts to take a stand.

Israeli annexation and resettlement is no different than Russians. This is not about one deserves more sympathy than others.

There should not be a double standard.

Oh no my intention is to place the conflicts in perspective. And go against false narratives (incomparable to the horror of gaza. 20 times more dead etc etc)


Apart from numbers, things like actions and intent also greatly matter. Perhaps moreso.
However…on this aspect…the palestinian cause has complicated matters by falling to terrorism so often. But that is for another thread.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582434705093193729

I'm pretty much looking forward to how much panic we can observe in the Western camp. Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles are indeed game-changing weapons. If the news is true, let us see if they are shipped in large numbers.

HIMARS has proven to be the STAR weapon in this war. It completely changed the momentum in Ukraines favor.

And HIMARS is about to get ALOT more capable with the introduction of GMLRS-ER and Precision Strike Missile next year.

Increased production is definitely warranted.

HIMARS are getting taken out by Russian air defense systems. Too late, Russians have already figured out how to knock out your beloved "HIMARS".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582514462447132672

 

[Dalit]

Been lurking for over 10 years, when mental midgets like you run your mouth I’m inclined to educate

You are getting a sound beating in Ukraine. We took you apart in Afghanistan. Not my words, but your own media and generals have been claiming this for 2 decades. Joey recently went bonkers about Pakistani nuclear weapons LOL What is it that you guys want because you seem a little confused...

LOL Now we have fatty burger eating rednecks suddenly running around on a Pakistani defence forum pretending all is well LMAO

 

[aviator_fan]

It's a multireply post, it's for another cheerleader. Victory? It's already a victory for China now, let you bozos fight Russia. Lol

Imagine a Russia in NATO, we would be fcked big time.

Genius: this thread is about NATO and Ukraine and Russia. China , despite what you think, is not relevant. Its military capabilities may be like North Koreas or it may be the best in the world. In eitehr case its not relevant here on this thread.

With the rest of your rant, you are Deluded like your leadership thats announced emperor Xi for the third time and launched a carrier with Naval aviation that can't conduct night operations just so it can do some minor power projection in its backyard. Yes keep on getting brainwashed, it doesn't change the outcome of the world just because you are inflated on party propaganda and because you can't voice any disagreement in China you show up here to vent.

 

[Dalit]

Mexico should probably remain silent as the cartels run the country, the president has no power


How much territory has Russia gained in the last month?
I’ll wait

1. Pakistan should remain silent and handover its nukes to papa USA.
2. Mexico should remain silent and not conduct any foreign policy.
3. China shouldn't develop at a rapid pace and pretend India and USA are the only superpowers in the world.
4. Russia should remain silent and let Europe/US encroach in its neighborhood?
5. Iran should remain silent and let Americans/Europeans come in and to do as they wish.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Dalit]

What you can’t accept a counter point of view?

You guys realistically don't belong here. This isn't some KKK forum bud. You are at the wrong place.

 

[aviator_fan]

1. Pakistan should remain silent and handover its nukes to papa USA.
2. Mexico should remain silent and not conduct any foreign policy.
3. China shouldn't develop at a rapid pace and pretend India and USA are the only superpowers in the world.
4. Russia should remain silent and let Europe/US encroach in its neighborhood?
5. Iran should remain silent and let Americans/Europeans come in and to do as they wish.

Did I miss anything?

Yes you took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up on this thread to spew garbage that has no relevance to the war taking place. Don't have you have any knowledge on strength or Russian or NATO weapons, or weakness of either doctrine instead of screaming crap.

You guys realistically don't belong here. This isn't some KKK forum bud. You are at the wrong place.

Who made you king? Are you a professional loser that you come here claiming that this forum and this thread is yours? Who the hell gave you internet access? Some loser can claim that you don't belong on the internet.

 

[Viet]

What unit is this? Henry Hub unit price shows continues drop and is almost half of what it was mid-August, but I can't co-relate your unit

On the ICE the price is per MWh in Nov 22 delivery. One month from now. That’s the most watched quote.

 

[aviator_fan]

This escalation clearly points to a certain level of panic on the part of Western policymakers. And the only recent shift in the war that we've witnessed can be summarized: 1) Russia carrying out partial mobilization of their reserve forces; 2) their new bombings that have/are taken out Ukrainian power, energy, and rail infrastructure; 3) and the entry of Iranian-made drones into the conflict.

And if and when Iranian-built Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles enter the conflict, we'll have to see how much further panic the West's WAR party will show. I'm pretty much looking forward to seeing how much these below skirt-wearing "generals" will escalate.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582226374450122752

If ramping up production to augment working weapon systems is panic, then by definition Russia is in crisis mode to have taken out T62s and bring in weapons from Iran and N. Korea.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582514462447132672

NO video? We are going to base the theory on a few lines. Come on, they take out a tank and there is a video. 6 HIMARS may be true but only believable if there is video. Any idiot can type up fiction.

 

[Viet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582434705093193729

I'm pretty much looking forward to how much panic we can observe in the Western camp. Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles are indeed game-changing weapons. If the news is true, let us see if they are shipped in large numbers.




HIMARS are getting taken out by Russian air defense systems. Too late, Russians have already figured out how to knock out your beloved "HIMARS".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582514462447132672

The West will step up air defense delivery.

Military worthless to bomb civil infra.

The US dropped 10x more bombs on Vietnam than allied forces dropped on Germany in WW2. And lost the war.

 

[Dalit]

Oh what a joy to start the morning like this. Your reap what you sow. A good taste of your own medicine. Now you know what it feels like.

Yes you took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up on this thread to spew garbage that has no relevance to the war taking place. Don't have you have any knowledge on strength or Russian or NATO weapons, or weakness of either doctrine instead of screaming crap.


Who made you king? Are you a professional loser that you come here claiming that this forum and this thread is yours? Who the hell gave you internet access? Some loser can claim that you don't belong on the internet.

So, why doesn't NATO send its forces to Ukraine to fight Russia? You claim that NATO has superhuman abilities. What good are these abilities if you have to do the fighting on behalf of NATO in cyberspace.

When are you fatty rednecks coming to get Pakistan's nukes? Papa Joe is having sleepless nights LOL

 

[LeGenD]

Members are advised to stay on topic.

 

[ZeGerman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582434705093193729

I'm pretty much looking forward to how much panic we can observe in the Western camp. Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles are indeed game-changing weapons. If the news is true, let us see if they are shipped in large numbers.

What panic? We see civilian infra being targeted. We send more materials. Russia is only backing itself into the corner more.

And iran is losing its “suprise” capabilities. Nato will study everything carefully.

HIMARS are getting taken out by Russian air defense systems. Too late, Russians have already figured out how to knock out your beloved "HIMARS".

Sure according to the russians all HIMARS have been destroyed thrice already. And we saw how they blocked all rockets with the antonov bridge. Like literally the bridge.

Also it is highly likely there was no attack at all. Russia is using fake news to justify their attacks on civil infrastructure, and in this case..their upcoming evacuation from Kherson.

 

[MeFishToo]

On the ICE the price is per MWh in Nov 22 delivery. One month from now. That’s the most watched quote.

Panic seems to have left the market somewhat.

 

[Dalit]

LOL I still remember how initially the Americans and Europeans in this topic used to boast how Russia would kneel in a few weeks. Russian economy would be destroyed in a matter of days. Russia wouldn't be able to sustain the war. Russian soldiers have no chance. The Ukrainians would be enough to put the Russians in their place. 7 months on and we are in a different phase where Russia has conquered vast Ukrainian land. Surely Russia has taken losses, but if we weigh the losses against the wins Russia is clearly ahead. The talk has changed from Russia would kneel to let's sanction Iran who is providing very useful and cost-effective kamikaze drones to Russia. The impact of Iranian drones has been underestimated. Russia is suddenly not depleting expensive cruise missiles to attack Ukraine, but utilizing much cheaper Iranian drones to great effect. Russia is on a daily basis pouncing Ukrainian hideouts and critical infrastructure with ease. Crippling Ukrainian capabilities each hour.

To make matters worse, the most fierce allies of the West i.e. India and alike are displaying open neutrality. When it is crunch time at the UN no developing nation has come forward to support Western stance. The Europeans are also feeling the pinch. The war has impacted ordinary households. Inflation is sky high. The capitalist system that thrives on a falacy and was going to collapse sooner than later is also crumbling. The war in Ukraine has only accelerated the inevitable. Western countries are openly threatening developing nations to pick their side. Yet many developing nations are opting not do so.

If this isn't a sea change I don't know what is.