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zartosht said:
Well tell me what the losses should look like in such a major reargaurd action? tens of thousands of ukies attacking a couple of thousand Russians?

This is a war against combined NATO. not some video game. there will be losses, but there is absolutely no evidence of any significant Russian casualties out of the norm that we havent seen all war.

a collapse should have thousands of men getting taken as POWs, with positions collapsing, and isolated units getting routed. This was an orderly retreat, with reargaurd action, that took some casualties, but probably inflicted 5x+ more on the ukies.
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destroying those tanks and ammunition would not even take 2 min , at least they must have been destroyed, not left behind for rebels . in syria also the exact same thing happened and SAA handed so many of its equipment to ISIS
 
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Russian media:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was seen today with a new patch that reads:
"Ukraine or Death"
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@RoaaMediaNews


https://twitter.com/x/status/1570908746448252928
 
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zartosht said:
The Euro has lost about 10-15% of its value since the start of the war.

inflation on essentials like food and fuel is astronomical 100% range, while "official" inflation is around 10%~

The average euro including the super rich scandanavian dudes who like to brag about their wealth have lost at least 20% of their purchasing power since the start of the conflict. probably more, im being extremely conservative.

and the worse has yet to come.

When the euros freeze, people should remeber this smug attitude. and their cheering of sanctions of poor nations, and not feel an ounce of sympathy for them when they starve/freeze.

eastern europe is what western europe had always looked like economically and culturally before they colonized and mass looted the entire americas, south east asia, australia, and africa. They looted several continents for several hundred years to get their income levels. And karma is coming back for payback. and she is known to be a big bitch.
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You are exactly the kind of person one would expect to find on a forum like this. Cant believe you degraded yourself and expressed your hatred in english, while beating a strawman.

Best regards
Your “super rich“ Scandinavian
 
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thetutle said:
US totally and completely lost the war, Despite probably winning every battle. US just didnt have the capacity to do what was needed to win, even though on paper it was able to do it. In reality it was not. Just like russia in Ukraine.
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Winning and Losing is a complex concept, especially when Territories are not involved since US does not want to annex Afghanistan into US Territories or Colony, unlike Russia did with Ukraine. Because we don't have a tangible measure to chart successes. eg You gain territories, you lose territories. At best we can say US has achieved all their Tactical Goal (Dismantled AQ network, killed OBL) and failed the Strategic Goal.

But then one can argue this war has not yet over strategically and this war has not yet finished. You could argue it had entered the proxy stage, look at Vietnam War for example, if we determined the strategic goal for Vietnam war is to pull Vietnam away from Communism and Soviet Influence (That's the reason why we support the Southern Regime) Then we can say the US succeed that goal because even US lost the South Vietnam Allies, Vietnam as a country is trying to normalise the relationship with US. Not to member Communism really did not spill into neighboring country. On the other hand, you can argue the war with Taliban is not over because US have the capacity and power to reinvade Afghanistan if Taliban cross the line again (Like do another 9/11) This is more or less the same case with Desert Storm, we didn't topple Saddam Hussein in 91, does that mean we lost in Desert Storm??

Same as the Vietnam case, we cannot bound Afghanistan together, unless it is our intention to annex it. You can say the US did not come out "Winning" the war outright, but whether it had lost, it's debatable, because you will need to actually "Lose" something to lose a war, then the question will become "What did US lost" ?
 
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F-22Raptor said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1571034179391062016
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Nuclear is so 20th century. Meet modern artillery of the 21st century.

Russia deploys its latest artillery Geranium (locally manufactured Shahed-136 with TOT)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-has-begun-using-iranian-kamikaze-drones-on-ukraine @White and Green with M/S @F-22Raptor @Oldman1 @UKBengali @gambit @Ich @jamahir @jamal18 @Hack-Hook @Vergennes @Song Hong @Ali_Baba @bobo6661 @KAL-EL @thetutle @925boy @FuturePAF @mazeto...
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