Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[vizier]

If russia asks for volunteers now from muslim countries in return for full pledged alliance, for six months they would be in berlin as allied forces

Depending on current and future developments Wagner pmc and other pmcs would definately increase their member count.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713244442650391004

Russia continues to suffer enormous losses

 

[gambit]

Russia has the ability to sustain this war for years to come. They have the raw materials, numbers and industrial power to take Ukraine inch by inch no matter the cost. Once they take control of Odessa, it'll be a strategic win for them against NATO. Let's see what happens when this winter comes and the ground freezes over. Sure will be interesting to see who gains more land.

You do not want to 'sustain' a war. By that argument, Russia lost. The military do not produce but destroy. That is its nature. Same for a war. Wars consume things and people -- in an instant. A bomb destroys a car or kill a human being. Then it will take literally yrs to make a new car and breed a new human being. So from that perspective, being able to 'sustain' a war means you ALREADY lost the war. People talks nonsensically that Russia have not conducted 'total warfare', as if they know WTF they are talking about in the first place. The reality is that Russia did not or failed to create its own 'Desert Storm' and the longer your enemy is able to resist, the odds of 'total warfare' ala Desert Storm becomes increasingly remote. You talk this way because it is easy for you. Nothing you can lose.

 

[aviator_fan]

Russia has the ability to sustain this war for years to come. They have the raw materials, numbers and industrial power to take Ukraine inch by inch no matter the cost. Once they take control of Odessa, it'll be a strategic win for them against NATO. Let's see what happens when this winter comes and the ground freezes over. Sure will be interesting to see who gains more land.

Best case scenario: Russia keeps what it has in Ukraine. It doesn't control or dominate over its neighbor nor can it control any more its accession to nATO.

For that the cost:
1. Permanent sanctions
2. Slave to CHina, a relationship it tried to be a master in when it broke relations in 1955.
3. Black Sea no navy influence. Baltic Influence surrounded by NATO
4. Two more NATO countries.

I can also go punch my neighbor in the nose, but if he steals my car and family leaves, and I lose my job, thats not a victory

 

[gambit]

Best case scenario: Russia keeps what it has in Ukraine. It doesn't control or dominate over its neighbor nor can it control any more its accession to nATO.

For that the cost:
1. Permanent sanctions
2. Slave to CHina, a relationship it tried to be a master in when it broke relations in 1955.
3. Black Sea no navy influence. Baltic Influence surrounded by NATO
4. Two more NATO countries.

I can also go punch my neighbor in the nose, but if he steals my car and family leaves, and I lose my job, thats not a victory

To him and others like him who cheers for Russia, items 1- 4 constitutes a victory. But of course, they will always fall back on the 'not yet total warfare' nonsense.

 

[Vergennes]

To him and others like him who cheers for Russia, items 1- 4 constitutes a victory. But of course, they will always fall back on the 'not yet total warfare' nonsense.

"Russia only sent their second rate forces in Ukraine, the real Russian army is waiting at home for NATO".

 

[gambit]

"Russia only sent their second rate forces in Ukraine, the real Russian army is waiting at home for NATO".

Yaahhh...I forgot that one...Thnx...

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713277904505749656

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713293503172653219

 

[The SC]

The Fall | The Fighting Doesn't Stop For A Minute. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.10.14​

 

[SBD-3]

China would need a base in Myanmar and Pakistan to assist in fighting off the Yanks. There won't be direct confrontation once we have 6 carrier groups.

China, Pakistan and Russia need a NATO like Pact which would allow China and Russia to enhance their international presence (like US) and allow countries like Pakistan to economize the use of resources allocated to defence and use it for reviving the economy.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I agree - they have outshined muslI’m country’s . But that is a low bar when you set your own claimed standards so high ..

The top is Sweden at 0,97, United States at 0,93 and United Kingdom at 0,89.
The highest ranking Muslim country is Indonesia at 0,77. Pakistan is 0,51.
So both the US and UK are way, way better.

China, Pakistan and Russia need a NATO like Pact which would allow China and Russia to enhance their international presence (like US) and allow countries like Pakistan to economize the use of resources allocated to defence and use it for reviving the economy.

Russia does not need a NATO like pact since it is attacking its neighbours.
An Eastern ”NATO” would not be obliged to help Russia.

 

[Soldier35]

Russian air defense forces shot down two Ukrainian drones over the Black Sea off the coast of Sochi. According to the Ministry of Defense, the Ukrainian drones were shot down at about 7 a.m.

Footage of the impact of the Russian kamikaze drone "Lancet" on the British 155-mm AS-90 self-propelled gun of the Ukrainian army. In total, the Ukrainian army received 32 AS-90 self-propelled guns. These are the first frames where the destruction of the AS-90 self-propelled gun is clearly visible. After the drone hit the AS-90 self-propelled gun a fire started that completely destroyed the combat vehicle.Judging by the video, three of the four crew members managed to leave the combat vehicle.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

If russia asks for volunteers now from muslim countries in return for full pledged alliance, for six months they would be in berlin as allied forces

More like POWs.
Muslims have shown their incompetence in wars many times during the last century.

 

[mulj]

More like POWs.
Muslims have shown their incompetence in wars many times during the last century.

Yet, they fucked france and expelled you from their countries, even today you are humiliated leaving niger with tail between your legs.
Shall you say the same for your country?