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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

This is a very dangerous deposition. Because if we agree they are "Brothers" and they should be together and thus give one party right to start a war to put them back "Together" then we will also need to agree that China and Taiwanese are one people, they are both Chinese, or Serb and Croats are one people, they are both Slavic, that would give them carte blanche to start war on each other, then where does this argument ends? How about Puerto Rican and Cuban? How about Spain and Portuguese? How about US and Canada?

You have a country, and then you have another, the jurisdiction is going to end within your border, your country, and if you cannot respect that, and start a war because "we are brother and we should be together", then I guess we aren't really the "same people". This is the same as countries as much as the same as any private relationship.
Putin uses this phrase “Ukraine, Russia is one country, one people” as underlying justification for the invasion. In his assay just few months before the war he argues Ukraine was founded by foreign powers thus it has no right to exist.
 
This idiot has been given billions of dollars in all kinds of aid and even advice,volunteers and resources......and he is still nagging and probably blaming the world for not helping him. For not saving Ukraine.

The guy who wants WWIII to start,because he can't negotiate peace terms. And because he wanted Ukraine to join NATO and the EU.

Imagine what other countries would have done with all the equipment and money Ukraine has been given. And all the equipment they already had before the war as well.

No matter how much his allies give him,he still complains. Well if you can't win,just ask the Russians to come to the table and get a peace deal. Give Donbass and Crimea permanently and become a neutral country. The Russians are probably tired and want to stop the war as well. They can both present it as a victory. Ukraine as not being completely destroyed and Russia getting Donbass.

And then show the world how much all these hundreds of thousands of people have died for nothing.

Ukraine has all but disassembled the ”mighty” Russian ”bear”, which is now more a teddybear. Money well spent in the opinion of many of the top NATO leaders.

The invasion proves that seeking to join NATO was correct.
 
Well, it has been extremely active in lobbying and bribing european politicians to choose US build stuff over pan-european defence projects.

It opposes every pan european project.
It was also in favor of brexit..weakening EU.
Barack Obama made it perfectly clear that he thought BrExit was a stupid idea. Drumpf of course wanted to break up Europe.

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Wait...You guys laughed at US (Donald Trump), remember?
Laughing at the big moron, is not laughing at the US. It is implicitly laughing at the morons that supports him after he committed treason, and is keeping on committing treason - in public.
 
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This is spot on.

Usa nags about europes defence spending but at same time sabotages pan-european projects and actively opposes independant initiatives.
It basically wants Europe to buy more USA weapons but otherwise remain subservient, divided, no real competition.

USA would get a heart attack if whole EU adopts French unified approach.
Europe would quickly rise to a near peer military power what would lead to huge friction on opposing power projection and interests.

That would isolate the UK and US, the whole world order would collapse; the bullies on the block China and Russia would run amok and gobble up smaller countries.


Another act of sabotage with undoubtedly the clown of Kiev and Co. behind it.
Definitely another war crime that can be added to the Russian list.
 

That is another war crime that can be added to Putin's tally of war crimes. Shocking that Russia did this but now not much suprises me.

It was done obviously to slow down the offensive and force Ukranian forces into a smaller area of operations/funnel where Russian forces can be concentrated into defensive positions more easily, which would make the offensive more difficult for Ukraine.
 
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300 billion a week?

USA has given 80 billion in one year.
With it they are demolishing the “near pear” adversary russia for a meagre 10% of USA yearly defence budget…..(800 billion)
An absolute bargain for USA interests.

Based on percentage GDP, USA is like the 9th donor country. Eastern europe helping relatively more…without taking account the spending on millions of ukranian refugees…if we add that then USA is probably the number 15th donor.

nonsence. America likes its bases in europe for USA control and its own power projection first and foremost.

now if america loves dumping tens of thousands of troops and bases on your soil…its understandable europe doesnt want to overspend on defence next to that.
USA can however simply set a plan to leave in x years and the industrial powerhouse germany could easily manage


America likes to project power from UK soil….it is not going to abandon its bases…
It is also still in Iraq for instance.

America loves to spend on military..and packing up bases is also not going to reduce spending.

Divide and conquer.

Maybe the MAGA red states should form their own country?
So where does the money come from every time puppet Biden announces 300 billion in arms, the moon? You do realize the US has to replenish their stock, which costs billions?
As I stated above trump wanted to move troops out of Germany, so it depends on leadership.
My heritage is German and have lots of relatives there, been there, Germany is no longer a power house and hasn’t been for years.

As for the mega Republican comment it’s obvious so many people here have no idea what he stands for and have gobbled up the msm bs. It’s just a silly comment to say why don’t they just create their own country. Do you mean like putins trying to do in Ukraine?
 
This is spot on.

Usa nags about europes defence spending but at same time sabotages pan-european projects and actively opposes independant initiatives.
It basically wants Europe to buy more USA weapons but otherwise remain subservient, divided, no real competition.

USA would get a heart attack if whole EU adopts French unified approach.
Europe would quickly rise to a near peer military power what would lead to huge friction on opposing power projection and interests.

Serious question, what competitive weapons does Europe make?
Also as pointed out above when they try to develop something themselves it always falls short, ie a400m, eurofighter, I mean they needed Saudi money just to upgrade it to be ground attack capable.
The us doesn’t have to Saratoga anything, Europe does that on their own

Drumpf was not at all interested in Europe improving its defense.
What he was interested in was that European countries increased their spending on US arms. The evidence for this was that he was really pissed off when the idea of joint purchases of European arms was proposed.
He argued by incorrectly stating that Europeans failed to meet their committments. In this, he showed a total misunderstanding how the defense of NATO is financed.

Alternatively, he was told by his master that this was the motivation he should give to accomplish Putin’s goal of disassembling NATO leaving Russia in a much better position to overrun former Soviet states.

Now when Putin has played his card, the 2% ambition by 2024 agreed upon under Barack Obama seems to be met by almost everyone, removing the argument for Drumpf to leave NATO,. Putin might have to find another servant.
That’s comical without US contributions there is no nato, just a fact. “Almost everyone” lol it’s an obligation and many countries just started to meet it. Once again proves the US doesn’t have to hold back anyone Europe does it on their own
 

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