Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653546696956329986

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653546700471160833

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653546702807392259

 

[jhungary]

How accurate is this? According to this Russia doesn't want full Ukraine but a certain area of east and south as shown in the map. Once that territory is captured Russia will then stop their advancement and go on the defence for the long run, they will annexe it and declare it as the international border between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine will then be free to join Nato once its recognised.

@Dalit @jhungary @Valar @Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen
@Vergennes

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Russia wanted the whole of Ukraine. Not just the southern parts or Donbas, that's quite evident when they attack across the Belarusian border and try to take Kyiv. Of course now that they failed, they said it was a feign, it may be able to trick their home audience, it does not work on people who have minimal operational understanding of war. Because you don't reinforce a feign, a feign is to design to fool your opponent, whether it successfully applies or not, that is the ultimate goal. So basically the two response is either your enemy buys it, and redeploy their force there so you make gain somewhere else (Does that sound familiar to you? Because that is exactly what the Ukrainian did in their Kharkiv offensive ) or they don't buy it, and you go do your normal business somewhere. Which mean it's really entirely pointless to reinforce a feign attack, because you want your enemy to move troop OUT into that area, if you yourself also did the same, then what is the purpose of feigning an attack to begin with?

So when the Russian reinforce the northern advance from Chernihiv, you know they intended to take Kyiv, which mean that's was their intention, they only now say they just wanted Donbass is simply because that's probably the only place they can get to, as I mentioned before, they are culminated. On the other hand, there aren't any reason to take those city in the south coast because they already had Crimea before the war, anywhere East of Crimea would have to pass thru Kerch strait which Russia control both side of the strait. Which mean that is not strategically feasible for Ukraine to do anything in Mariupol and Berdiansk. The coastline Russia really wanted is from Kherson to Odessa, because that would have landlocked Ukraine, which most likely Ukraine would have to submit because they can't survive on Land route alone, but then taking anywhere north of Crimea that is not Kherson or Odessa does not really make sense because they already control those area, Ukraine already cannot use those area because it would have been blockaded by Kerch strait already.

I don't see how Russia would settle with the current strategical map, because it is largely the same before 2022.

 

[kingQamaR]

Russia is literally being surrounded by Nato and people are making propaganda that Russia is a threat to EU? Same with China. Nato/Usa is trying to surround China but after Russia we will see propaganda that China is a threat. Nato is the biggest threat to world security, they caused wars all over the world, even nuked Japan.



At the moment Russia is suffering though. We gota admit that first, and yes Russia has placed everything on the line. Russia hasn't really faced a war in modern times so they need to quickly adapt, produce new weapons and tactics to win this war. So far we witnessed the same old weaponry and tactics, Russia still hasn't used airforce effectively to destroy Himaars, tanks, missile systems and they keep sending their army to get killed.

Usa on the other hand would have made the use of airforce as top priority, basically destroy anything that moves on the ground before sending in the army.

People forget that US and nato have 20 years air to ground combat experience. Something that is hard to gain over six months especially when this is the first major war they have fought in decades, west are able to take this incredibly complicated task and make it look easy given their crews were trained by people who actually seen combat. West have ground forces who know how to call in strikes.

 

[kingQamaR]

How accurate is this? According to this Russia doesn't want full Ukraine but a certain area of east and south as shown in the map. Once that territory is captured Russia will then stop their advancement and go on the defence for the long run, they will annexe it and declare it as the international border between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine will then be free to join Nato once its recognised.

@Dalit @jhungary @Valar @Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen
@Vergennes

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You cant just walk into another country & claim it as yours and expect the world to just be like okay thats fairs. What a deluded dangerous man !

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653475815810629632

How accurate is this? According to this Russia doesn't want full Ukraine but a certain area of east and south as shown in the map. Once that territory is captured Russia will then stop their advancement and go on the defence for the long run, they will annexe it and declare it as the international border between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine will then be free to join Nato once its recognised.

@Dalit @jhungary @Valar @Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen
@Vergennes

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Seems alright with me. This area is densely populated. Without this area Ukraine has less than 30 million people. No threat to Russia.

You cant just walk into another country & claim it as yours and expect the world to just be like okay thats fairs. What a deluded dangerous man !

The world is not perfect. In a perfect world, there is no war and everyone hold hands and sing kumbaya.

 

[kingQamaR]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653475815810629632

Seems alright with me. This area is densely populated. Without this area Ukraine has less than 30 million people. No threat to Russia.



The world is not perfect. In a perfect world, there is no war and everyone hold hands and sing kumbaya.

I think Ukraine should do their own referendum, and with a '98%' approval claim that Russia is now part of Ukraine.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Hydra-70 rockets??

The only thing that uses those are attack chopper, not even air force uses hydra rocket......

Were US about to transfer some DAP Blackhawk or Viper Gunship or even Apache to the Ukrainian or some sort of weird modification on armoured vehicle to fire those??

once in Afghanistan there was something weird

by the way isn't A-10 capable of using them ?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I think Ukraine should do their own referendum, and with a '98%' approval claim that Russia is now part of Ukraine.

Sure. Why not?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653368617642147841

 

[jhungary]

once in Afghanistan there was something weird

by the way isn't A-10 capable of using them ?

They can, but A-10 using rocket is extremely rare, and when they do, they used the newer APKWS

Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Air Force don't use unguided rocket anymore.....It's not 1980s when A-10 first started its service

 

[The SC]

May 2 - The Bloody Date Of Ukrainian History. Military Summary And Analysis 2023.05.02​

 

[Viet]

You cant just walk into another country & claim it as yours and expect the world to just be like okay thats fairs. What a deluded dangerous man !

Putin reminds me of a robber. He storms your house, taking the garden and half of your kitchen. Oh wait, if you protest and fight back, he will bomb your toilets, the rest of your house and and certainly the other half of your kitchen.

Before he storms into your house, he makes a video about his strays dog separatists once lived there for generations.

 

[kingQamaR]

Putin reminds me of a robber. He storms your house, taking the garden and half of your kitchen. Oh wait, if you protest and fight back, he will bomb your toilets, the rest of your house and and certainly the other half of your kitchen.

Before he storms into your house, he makes a video about his strays dog separatists once lived there for generations.

He's an absolute nut job. Even China must soon realise he's a danger to the entire world.'Very Obviously he has gone insane'

 

[Ich]

Its not air to air war in Ukraine, its more like battlefield war so why can't Russia use just say 50 of their best planes, 100 drones and destroy any moving targets on the ground before sending in the troops. The way Usa fought in Afghanistan and Iraq was they sent troops but when they get stuck or come under heavy fire, they will request quick airforce to destroy the targets before moving forward, this way they limited their casualties and also destroyed major threats before moving in.

Its AD vs. air, not air vs. air. If Irak had the AD what Ukraine had/has, then "Desert Storm" would called "Desert Flop".

And yes, you are right, Russia jumps very late on the mass drone train or glide bomb train, but had its arty modernized since Syria (Krasnopol, laser directed/controlled ect.).

And what we see is that Russia army at the beginning was sluggish, stucked in old doctrines, but surprisingly was able to change its warfare, adapted modern war enviroment while fighting, so we can say that the russia army in Ukraine now is not the same as the russia army at the beginning of Ukraine war. Russia army transformed more and more in a very modern army.

 

[ZeGerman]

It holds no meaning. Not even symbolic. All of these countries still have excellent relations with Russia.

You said you were on a prestigious university…as a toilet cleaner perhaps?
Else i cannot understand how you can make such idiotic posts.

It is an established fact that kzachstan/armenia relationship with russia took a big hit..
And china openly critisizing russia with this is a big thing as well. Especially if you know chinese culture (which you dont).
It shows russia cannot rely on china to really back it up. Not even with words.

russia is increasingly isolated diplomatically.

 

[Dalit]

You said you were on a prestigious university…as a toilet cleaner perhaps?
Else i cannot understand how you can make such idiotic posts.

It is an established fact that kzachstan/armenia relationship with russia took a big hit..
And china openly critisizing russia with this is a big thing as well. Especially if you know chinese culture (which you dont).
It shows russia cannot rely on china to really back it up. Not even with words.

russia is increasingly isolated diplomatically.

Burn baby. LOL Now imagine that I am working at a prestigious university in a good position Will you be

Russia is winning day by day. Your sobbing won't make an iota of difference.

Putin reminds me of a robber. He storms your house, taking the garden and half of your kitchen. Oh wait, if you protest and fight back, he will bomb your toilets, the rest of your house and and certainly the other half of your kitchen.

Before he storms into your house, he makes a video about his strays dog separatists once lived there for generations.

This actually reminds me of colonial Western powers... Pillaging, stealing, burning, destroying, mass killing, raping and so much more.