Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Soldier35]

Russian sappers conducting demining in Ukraine collected a large number of mines and grenades. All this was destroyed in one explosion. The explosion in power is equal to the explosion of 3 tons of explosives in TNT equivalent.

Donetsk militia spoke about the difficult assault on the village of Peski. The Ukrainian army created three lines of powerful defense and even dug underground passages between the basements of houses, this is a small part of what they had to face during the battles in the village. Details of the assault in the video. (Subtitles)

The United States sent Mi-24 and Mi-17 helicopters to Ukraine. The helicopters were previously purchased from Russia for the Afghan army, but were eventually transferred to the Ukrainian army. Video with helicopters has already been published by the Ukrainian army.

 

[Viet]

If not for the timing (post corona shortages), massively fueling energy cost already…russias economy would be in a much more dire strait.

But with no more gas to europe, russia simply does not have the infrastructure to sell that amount to others yet.

Now If energy prices also reduce due to recession….russia will be completely screwed if the war and sanctions would still be ongoing spring next year.

Usually building a gas pipeline in Germany takes 8 years. Now the first pipeline will be completed in 4 months.
Yes in 4 months.

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[khansaheeb]

Thats the Norwegian consul (a professional diplomat) going full karen (Káren?) on some hotel receptionist

Her racist tirade included "I hate russians" and "Im scandanavian, im used to clean rooms!"

Seems like Russia has some denazification to do in Norway, sooner the better.

 

[Tornado23]

So. After some 160+ days of fighting, who is winning?

 

[mulj]

beside "war spectacle" observations it is pretty obvious.

 

[Corax]

I agree, US was defeated everywhere except Granada. That is why Afghanistan is much better place with 80% at starvation. And middle east (Iraq, Syria) are at their military strength and economic prosperity that the Israelis shiver in their pants when they go to sleep. That would have only happened if US lost and we know on this forum that they lost because a few 100 snipers over a decade picked off 4000 soldiers.


Yes you believe that: Israel somehow is under threat when every day they are bolder in their actions in occupied territories, and hitting Iran through assassinations in-country. This never happened up until 3-4 years. I think its a good dream for you to feel good that Iran poses a direct threat to Isreal, but certainly is not how Israel acts on a daily basis. Unless you think this is all a trap that Iranians have cunningly set for Israel that will unfold after your and my lifetime (by which time all occupied territories will be emptied out) and every GCC country will be a partner to Israel (only Saudi Arabia needs to come around)

Hardly an endorsement of your Iran theory!

Your original argument was that the US invasion of Iraq and the removal of Saddam Hussein was done at the behest of the Zionist Israeli government to remove a major threat to the illegal state, because you Mericuns are effectively owned by the Zionist state, you do its bidding, every Mericun president sh1its his pants if he ever goes against the wishes of the Zionists, and the Israelis openly admit that they own Capitol Hill. But with Iraq effectively owned by the Iranians now, how has the major threat to Israel been removed? You should also ask yourself, why are the Israelis so scared of the Iranians now all of a sudden? Why the assassinations, the threats of strikes and nuking Iran? If Iran wasn't such a threat to the Zionist state, why are the Zionists so scared of them? But sure, the Mericuns have done a great job at removing one existential threat to Israel and replacing it with another. By the way, how come the mighty Mericuns let the Iranians bomb the sh1t out of their airbases in Iraq without being able to do anything? How come the Iranian missiles weren't intercepted? Why were the mighty Merucins so afraid of the Iranians selling drones to the Russians and threatening Iran with "dire consequences"?

 

[ZeGerman]

beside "wat spectacle" observations it is pretty obvious.

Depends on what “winning” means.

Russia clearly aimed for more then Their excuse “protecting the donbass”.

And Both militarily (donbass not fully taken, kherson is pressured) as economically (will sanctions continue even through winter?) this is not a done deal.

So ask again in 3-6 months….

 

[Ahmadbhutta01]

beside "wat spectacle" observations it is pretty obvious.

Depends on what u call a victory , Russia lost 20 million ppl in WW2 yet won the war

 

[mulj]

Depends on what “winning” means.

Russia clearly aimed for more then Their excuse “protecting the donbass”.

And Both militarily (donbass not fully taken, kherson is pressured) as economically (will sanctions continue even through winter?) this is not a done deal.

So ask again in 3-6 months….

Sure, they redefined their goals and narrowed those, they will try to push to Odessa and with eventual success of that they will declare "victory", they are somehow on half way of it.

Depends on what u call a victory , Russia lost 20 million ppl in WW2 yet won the war

By my understanding, land locking of what remains of Ukraina and permanent crippling of UAF would be conditions for declaring victory.

 

[Corax]

I don't think there will ever be a permanent cessation of hostilities, not given the extent to which the Russians have captured Ukrainian territory, and the fact that it appears they intend to capture the Odessa region and effectively land-lock Ukraine. It will become another frozen conflict, and the West will continue to support the Ukrainians militarily. The Russians will need to continue low intensity strikes to keep the capability of the UAF in check, even if they stop their advance at some point, and the long-term objective of the Ukrainians will be to completely push the Russians back to their own borders. So even if there is some negotiated "peace", expect another potential conflict many years down the line. Think of other similar frozen conflicts like Israel/Palestine, Azerbaijan/Armenia/Nagorna Karabak, North/South Korea, Kashmir, etc.

 

[mulj]

I don't think there will ever be a permanent cessation of hostilities, not given the extent to which the Russians have captured Ukrainian territory, and the fact that it appears they intend to capture the Odessa region and effectively land-lock Ukraine. It will become another frozen conflict, and the West will continue to support the Ukrainians militarily. The Russians will need to continue low intensity strikes to keep the capability of the UAF in check, even if they stop their advance at some point, and the long-term objective of the Ukrainians will be to completely push the Russians back to their own borders. So even if there is some negotiated "peace", expect another potential conflict many years down the line. Think of other similar frozen conflicts like Israel/Palestine, Azerbaijan/Armenia/Nagorna Karabak, North/South Korea, Kashmir, etc.

they have plenty of missiles to that once and if they make teritorial gains to keep UAF in check and bring them to the table. I do not see will and resources from Ukraina allies to commit them any means beside to keep them floating, in scenario you mentioned west should be really worried because russia will go in full proxy mode wherever they can.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1556522608279126016

https://twitter.com/x/status/1556522609910714368

 

[NotSure]

This is absolutely moronic if true. You don't start another offensive after taking territory, you consolidate.

This is why the Russians are facing such a high level insurgency in areas they've taken, and are suffering deep losses.

The Russian military and political systems are filled with idiots.

Sure, sure. Because YOU know about the level of insurgency there, the level of "deep losses" Russia has and what else.

It's soo good this forum have geniuses of such epic proportions like you, this is on F-16.net level.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1556586012108800002

 

[Viet]

So. After some 160+ days of fighting, who is winning?

Putin
He is undisputed king of Russia.
He controls military, justice, parliament, executives, economy, people. And the rest. There is no opposition.
Anyone who has different opinion will land in one of numerous gulags.