Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

A.P. Richelieu · Jan 4, 2023

Hassan Al-Somal said:
Here is the link that documents that agreement: https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/UA_150212_MinskAgreement_en.pdf

The self-rule or autonomy of Russian-speaking communities in both Donetsk and Luhansk regions, including the linguistic self-determination, were clearly documented there. And this was something that the Ukrainians ignored.

#10 was also clearly outlining the "Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, as well as mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under monitoring of the OSCE. Disarmament of all illegal groups."

NATO and the Ukrainian government never implemented that article.

Russia certainly did not honour #10.
The Russian created and supported insurrection was what created the problem in the first place.

A.P. Richelieu · Jan 4, 2023

Hassan Al-Somal said:
The Biden administration has kept sending both launchers and actual rockets. They recently announced they'll be sending more advanced ones since the existing launchers were getting destroyed and the rockets are mostly taking down by Russian anti-missile systems. That is the proof.

I invite you to produce any link where the US says that any HIMARS has been destroyed…

Viet · Jan 4, 2023

Hassan Al-Somal said:
Now, tell us how many soldiers Ukrainians lost in this attack in Druzhkovka? You're running with conflated numbers when Ukrainians were getting mobbed to the floor with many attacks like the one shown below, and their comedian President Zelensky never admitted the casualties.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610319318448758787

Well, you have your "facts" and I have mine, so we will see who is right and who is not.

Meanwhile, let me know how your Ukrainians lost in this precise attack in Druzhkovka?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610319318448758787

Well maybe the case. I did predict casualties Ukraine and Russians soldiers are almost the same. Although the tide has turned after Russia failed summer offensive. Ukraine now has received more precise deadly weapons.

Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen said:
Spies can find HIMARS. Then boom. Iskander or Tornado-S can hit it. These have more range than HIMARS. HIMARS cannot be moved all the time. That breaks the engine. It has to be stored in a warehouse when not in use.

Difficult to hit the Himars.
Ukraine moves them very quick away to safely once the missiles are fired.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610384390311510016

925boy · Jan 4, 2023

Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen said:
HIMARS cannot be moved all the time. That breaks the engine. It has to be stored in a warehouse when not in use.

Russia has SURELY destroyed some HIMARS and its ammunition in some warehouses- too many hits on Ukrainian forces for this not to have happened already.

I love how pro-Ukraine people on this thread think Ukraine needs more weapons only because it just does, not because its run out of weapons Russian military destroyed- Western propaganda can only go on for so long- western propaganda will probably run out of momentum this year- Ukraine especially wont be able to hide the damage its received up till now.

A.P. Richelieu said:
I invite you to produce any link where the US says that any HIMARS has been destroyed…

prove to us that all HIMARS provided are still alive- thats the war reality your propaganda cant recreate.

Deino · Jan 4, 2023

Hassan Al-Somal said:
The Biden administration has kept sending both launchers and actual rockets. They recently announced they'll be sending more advanced ones since the existing launchers were getting destroyed and the rockets are mostly taking down by Russian anti-missile systems. That is the proof.

Sorry ... but so far we have a lot of claims, even more propaganda and your wishful-thinkings but we have NO proof, not a single one that the Russian's hit or even destroyed even one HIMARS launcher!

925boy said:
prove to us that all HIMARS provided are still alive- thats the war reality your propaganda cant recreate.

OMG! So since you cannot prove even one was hit you desperately try - in order to save your theory - that we should provide proof that all are still alive! :hitwall:

Really funny! :omghaha:

jhungary · Jan 4, 2023

Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen said:
20 HIMARS wouldn't last long. These break down quick. Servicing is a pain in the arse.

It lasted longer than you in this thread.....

How many months you got banned? HIMARS already lasted 7 months in Ukraine.

:rofl:

Vergennes · Jan 4, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610646448479285249

jhungary · Jan 4, 2023

Deino said:
Sorry ... but so far we have a lot of claims, even more propaganda and your wishful-thinkings but we have NO proof, not a single one that the Russian's hit or even destroyed even one HIMARS launcher!

OMG! So since you cannot prove even one was hit you desperately try - in order to save your theory - that we should provide proof that all are still alive!

Really funny!

Sure, Ukraine should post all 20 HIMARS in the same area for a photo.

Sorry, Ukrainian is not as Stupid as the Russian.......

On the other hand, even if those 20 HIMARS are all destroyed wouldn't be a big deal, it's not like the US cannot fork out 100 million to buy another 20 for Ukraine. I mea LM wouldn't shut down their HIMARS production because Russian "Destroyed" them in Ukraine.......