Russia to receive a “digital” Tu-160 strategic bomber after upgrade

[bdslph]

Russia lacked before and its has advanced so much
China could not and still lacks
but Russia has already went to the level of the western and USA
having cool display and analog and digital is nothing
its is abt how fast is the reaction time and lessen the hassel for pilots
looking awesome and cool cockpit is no use

unless u can compare if there is a expert in here who can explain all the details and info of the avionics inside then we will know more
yes when it come to helmet of the fighter jet i think the USA and Western one is the most advance

 

[kaykay]

You made a fool out of yourself and instead of apologizing or quietly disappearing you are making it worse.

Both F-35 and F-22 have toggle switches. The centre stick is not a "joystick". A joystick is something kids play games with. The fact is you're posting pictures of decades old Russian cockpits and making accusations.


Toggle switches are used on some of the most modern aircraft because it gives the pilot a fast and easy way to tell if something is on or off. A toggle switche has nothing to do with how tech savvy anyone is. As for electronics and processors, virtually all semiconductor companies around the world sell to anyone off the shelf or custom make products.

Even US aircraft has foreign manufactured products, same with Russia. As to how good the latest Russian, American, Chinese or European aircraft are in terms of avionics is a secret to everyone that's not involved with the program.

He is a false flagger dumbo.... leave that poor guy.

 

[ashok321]

The centre stick is not a "joystick"

So much for your knowledge.
So much for your apology.

 

[ptldM3]

So much for your knowledge.
So much for your apology.


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What are you trying to prove by posting cockpit photos of 1970 and 1980s Russian aircraft? Modern Russian aircraft have glass cockpits but please continue posting outdated pictures of cockpits. While you're at it you can post a cockpit picture from a Russian ww2 era Mig-3 and rage at how outdated it is compared to modern western aircraft.

The correct term is also centre stick, joystick is for dumbed down civilians.

 

[vostok]

A country that makes trillions of dollars a year by selling a paper (USD) to the world can not go bankrupt.
You can buy anything with the USD, gold, diamonds, Rubles everything.

This country is not going to go down. Neither mathematically nor practically. Period.
And the good thing for Americans is that its not a legal tender. Nixon delinked it in 1971.
Its a piece of paper, US wont redeem it one fine morning, if the need be. If there is a financial emergency in the US.

Do you think that something can not happen only because it did not happen before?
As soon as the US ceases to be the world's leading economy, the dollar will lose the importance of the world reserve currency. I do not know what will be in its place - gold or something else. But the fact is obvious - the US share in the world economy is steadily declining and this process is irreversible. Or do you have some kind of alternative logic?

 

[ashok321]

Do you think that something can not happen only because it did not happen before?
As soon as the US ceases to be the world's leading economy, the dollar will lose the importance of the world reserve currency. I do not know what will be in its place - gold or something else. But the fact is obvious - the US share in the world economy is steadily declining and this process is irreversible. Or do you have some kind of alternative logic?

The US is a leading nation in GDP figures since decades.
And would be replaced by China to be 2nd, only in 2050:

You have 33 years of benefit from now on to decide. Its a luxury for you.
Now C'mon man and use your common sense & determine some.

Which currency will replace the USD in 2050?

 

[vostok]

The US is a leading nation in GDP figures since decades.
And would be replaced by China to be 2nd, only in 2050:

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You have 33 years of benefit from now on to decide. Its a luxury for you.
Now C'mon man and use your common sense & determine some.

Which currency will replace the USD in 2050?

The US share in the world economy in 1950 - 50%, US share in the world economy in 2017 - 27%. It is steadily falling. US debt in 1940 - 0, US debt in 2017 - 20+ trillions, the US debt is steadily growing. The country-bankrupt can for some time rule the world with the help of military force, but, as you probably know, the US has recently had problems with wars and regime changes - this opportunity is closed, too.
The fall of the Pax Americana is a fact. You just do not realize it yet. Your western gods are dead. They still pretend to be alive, but they are not.
Internal crises, aggravated political struggle, riots in the streets, economic problems, colonial attempts to free themselves from occupation, climate problems - the near future of the United States. The result is - collapse. Every empire has it's end.

 

[ashok321]

The US share in the world economy in 1950 - 50%, US share in the world economy in 2017 - 27%. It is steadily falling. US debt in 1940 - 0, US debt in 2017 - 20+ trillions, the US debt is steadily growing. The country-bankrupt can for some time rule the world with the help of military force, but, as you probably know, the US has recently had problems with wars and regime changes - this opportunity is closed, too.
The fall of the Pax Americana is a fact. You just do not realize it.

Again you are taking shelter in a same line of thinking viz; US debt of 100% vs its GDP.
By above logic, japan would have been Kaput, which has 250% of its GDP debt.

Simple following question again:

Which currency will replace the USD in 2050?

Is it so hard to answer this?
Convince me or get convinced.
Black or white.
There is nothing in between.

Don't be a traffic signal with amber light.
The answer is easy.

 

[GeraltofRivia]

Even 30 years after entering the service, Tu-160M2 is still a modern looking and formidable aircraft. It demands a lot of respect even merely from an engineering point of view. A clear example of the height that Russian aerospace industry has achieved. really hoping China can produce something like it in the near future.

 

[jetray]

Analog devices duplicate digital devices. This is a military requirement, and in real combat it is rather an advantage than a disadvantage. If you noticed, the F-22 also has analog devices for same reasons. Not because they can not make cockpit without it.

Agree,
during war reliability and resilience is important.

Avoid certain ppl you will just waste your time & bandwidth.

 

[The Accountant]

Again you are taking shelter in a same line of thinking viz; US debt of 100% vs its GDP.
By above logic, japan would have been Kaput, which has 250% of its GDP debt.

Simple following question again:

Which currency will replace the USD in 2050?

Is it so hard to answer this?
Convince me or get convinced.
Black or white.
There is nothing in between.

Don't be a traffic signal with amber light.
The answer is easy.

Man you are not getting crux of the argument ...

Although it is all off-topic and we should have discuss in another thread but let me explain you in detail. The working of financial world is entierly different from the way you are thinking... this is all based on a complex automatic and free floating system of demand and supply .

If you read the history US Dollar actually collapsed in 1973 during Vitenam War and the US Dollar we currently sees is entierly different from the dollar introduced as world currency at start of 19th century ...

In the start of 19th century dollar was redeemable in gold at fixed rates as a result US was bound to maintained a significant reserves for the note printed ,,, in 1973 US did actually bank corrupted and refuse to redeem the dollars but then they introduced a new dollar that has redeemable value but for this they had to create a demand to keep it as a global currency and for that they introduced OPEC where all of the world oil has to be traded in US Dollar and here they created a demand ...

Now consider a world where oil is traded in commodity other than dollars than what would be the imapct? Demand of dollars will reduce sharply whereas in no way US will be able to remove the supply from the market as it means providing services and goods against all those papers but which is not possible and resultantly by out of control market factors it will decline sharply ...

Such an event can always happen and China is very much in position to make a such a move being one of the major oil consumer but right now any ty will harm unstability will harm China as well and can restrict China to become undisputed super power ...

Right now China is investing in military and spreading its influence and once they have significant influence so that they can manage other countries on stand alone basis they have to simply dump the US Dollars reserves they have and have to push the suppliers to sale oil in any currency other than US Dollars and US economy will collapse ...

Collapse os US is simple economics, the demand of the most profitable product is now out of its hand with demand of US Dollars coming from China, India and middle east whereas Europe has already opted for Euro ...

Now we can see clear tumoil in middle east and it will not be long enough that middle east country seek shelter other than US and CHina will be able to provide the same (which currently they are not) and hence demand of the most profitable product will start falling ... Unlike other products US dollar is not a consumable product and for deamnd of every single dollar US will record a loss of 99.5% ...

It is just of matter of time ... not in very near future but probably in a decade or 2 , world economy will take a big hit and US economy will collapse ...

 

[jetray]

Man you are not getting crux of the argument ...

Although it is all off-topic and we should have discuss in another thread but let me explain you in detail. The working of financial world is entierly different from the way you are thinking... this is all based on a complex automatic and free floating system of demand and supply .

If you read the history US Dollar actually collapsed in 1973 during Vitenam War and the US Dollar we currently sees is entierly different from the dollar introduced as world currency at start of 19th century ...

In the start of 19th century dollar was redeemable in gold at fixed rates as a result US was bound to maintained a significant reserves for the note printed ,,, in 1973 US did actually bank corrupted and refuse to redeem the dollars but then they introduced a new dollar that has redeemable value but for this they had to create a demand to keep it as a global currency and for that they introduced OPEC where all of the world oil has to be traded in US Dollar and here they created a demand ...

Now consider a world where oil is traded in commodity other than dollars than what would be the imapct? Demand of dollars will reduce sharply whereas in no way US will be able to remove the supply from the market as it means providing services and goods against all those papers but which is not possible and resultantly by out of control market factors it will decline sharply ...

Such an event can always happen and China is very much in position to make a such a move being one of the major oil consumer but right now any ty will harm unstability will harm China as well and can restrict China to become undisputed super power ...

Right now China is investing in military and spreading its influence and once they have significant influence so that they can manage other countries on stand alone basis they have to simply dump the US Dollars reserves they have and have to push the suppliers to sale oil in any currency other than US Dollars and US economy will collapse ...

Collapse os US is simple economics, the demand of the most profitable product is now out of its hand with demand of US Dollars coming from China, India and middle east whereas Europe has already opted for Euro ...

Now we can see clear tumoil in middle east and it will not be long enough that middle east country seek shelter other than US and CHina will be able to provide the same (which currently they are not) and hence demand of the most profitable product will start falling ... Unlike other products US dollar is not a consumable product and for deamnd of every single dollar US will record a loss of 99.5% ...

It is just of matter of time ... not in very near future but probably in a decade or 2 , world economy will take a big hit and US economy will collapse ...

You are right, but don't you think they are smart? We do the hard work they just need to print & spend.
If most of the big trading countries dump dollar then US would lose its financial muscle. But such a thing happening is tough bcos US will try maintain the status quo. One way is to create chaos thereby tripping of newly emerging powers.

 

[The Accountant]

You are right, but don't you think they are smart? We do the hard work they just need to print & spend.
If most of the big trading countries dump dollar then US would lose its financial muscle. But such a thing happening is tough bcos US will try maintain the status quo. One way is to create chaos thereby tripping of newly emerging powers.

Agreed, , , smart is a small word for them ,,, they are bloody damn smart ...

I agree, that is why US has a budget of 600 billion dollars as to maintain the influence but right now it seems that other powers are rising fast especially China is flexing its muscles now if India shows some maturity then world can easily gets out of monopoly of US otherwise US is constantly pushing China and India for war ...

Once China is sure that they will be able to survive the jerk of world financial collapse and they have capability to take over the world financial system at the time of US collapse it is a matter of months to dump all US treasury bills in the market and to put a ban on trading in US dollars by China with other trading partners ...

 

[jetray]

Agreed, , , smart is a small word for them ,,, they are bloody damn smart ...

I agree, that is why US has a budget of 600 billion dollars as to maintain the influence but right now it seems that other powers are rising fast especially China is flexing its muscles now if India shows some maturity then world can easily gets out of monopoly of US otherwise US is constantly pushing China and India for war ...

Once China is sure that they will be able to survive the jerk of world financial collapse and they have capability to take over the world financial system at the time of US collapse it is a matter of months to dump all US treasury bills in the market and to put a ban on trading in US dollars by China with other trading partners ...

That is the issue divide and rule has served them well. Asian countries will never do it, they will spend their time only fighting among themsevles. BRICS should grow spine and dump dollar.
as biggest hoarder of dollar China should lead the way,but they are doing nothing.

 

[The Accountant]

That is the issue divide and rule has served them well. Asian countries will never do it, they will spend their time only fighting among themsevles. BRICS should grow spine and dump dollar.
as biggest hoarder of dollar China should lead the way,but they are doing nothing.

Here I would like to disagree ,,, China is flexing it muscles and trying to reach a point where they could dump dollars, right now dollar is the bargaining chip for them, US cannot touch Chinese economy as any blow to chienses economy will create a whole in US dollar as well , it is a sort of hedge ....

Now China is creating busienss partners and here comes the OBOR and CPEC. Once they have strong business partner they can shift the trading from dollar to Yen or may be some other sort of regional currency ...

They are doing it in stealth mode ...