Russia to expel 23 British diplomats, close consulate general in St. Petersburg

[takeitwithyou]

Really?

You see CIA

The US, despite the economy, can hardly win a war against peasants, if ever, so all those bases, “allies” and money means nothing. More countries especially in Europe are turning away from American and Most of NATO will never help the US, many NATO countries have too many differences and disagreement and they would simply be bogged down if not outright destroyed if they ever tried entering Russia. NATO can’t win in Afghanistan then NATO surely would be barried in Russia.


The Japanese want the US out of their country, just as many other countries do. US soldiers bring murder, rape, drunkness, drugs and fights.

Kryzekstan already kicked Americans out of the country.

Blah blah blah- still hyperpower, still largest economic power, still the leader of the free world, still have NATO, still surround you, still levying sanctions you beg us to remove. You still the world's pariah. still a thug, hated by all

 

[Reichsmarschall]

You see CIA

No i cant someone poisoned their station chief

 

[takeitwithyou]

No i cant someone poisoned their station chief

sentence got cut off- Those CIA fellas were heavily involved and mixed in with the Afghan mujahideen. BTW should you not be advocating for my ban instead of giving up to now asking me questions? I'm happy you don't see any more CIA . That's a relief- now to work on 'Mossad did it to us angle', next.

btw why are you a Nazi fan? You could be not any further from their version of Aryan race.

You are correct, she may have got the wrong information. Absolutely! But equally was there a non unilateral open investigation into the raid? Was the body produced as evidence? No!! So basically they are asking us to take their word for it...and am I obliged to take their word for it?? Is it reasonable for me to not take their word for it?-

You have not answered many of the questions I had originally raised, but instead asked more and more questions somewhat tangential to the original discussion. May I ask why? Is this a method of avoidance?
Will you answer the original questions??

Now coming to the tangential question of "Did the kids get killed in the school in Pakistan or was that fake too?"


You have said that I consider the OBL SEAL raid in 2011 to be fake. I wish to clarify - I accept that there was a SEAL raid in Abbottabad in 2011, what I do not accept is that this raid involved killing OBL (that is not to say he was killed or not or indeed other people were killed or not). I have given my reason for not accepting this specific point above. (Do note I am open to changing this viewpoint, if something more than the word of the US government or the Pakistani government is put forth but since the best evidence was dumped into the sea it looks difficult...and indeed suspicious...).

Having made this clarification, I accept that there was an attack on a school in Peshawar. And I accept children were killed as their bodies were not dumped in the sea. Do you see the difference? If the bodies of the children were not produced, one would reasonably be suspicious of the murder of the children and it would be reasonable to reject that children were killed in this attack...??
Coming back to the original point: Salisbury incidence. Please do not confuse the issue. I do accept there was an attack on a British and a Russian citizen with chemical weapons in Salisbury. What my issue is that the accusation it was a Russian state sanctioned attack is just that, an accusation and not proof.

ah got you. so all of these others when it comes to being outside of Pakistani interest or harm done to it= Fake
But if done to Pakistan = true. Btw, do you believe the TTP killed them?

The Pakistan government, Al Queda, US government all agree OBL was taken out at Abbottabad. But you, since you did not see the body= it was fake. The application of your standard of truth to only those use cases among countries you despise is unattainable.

Now to why I ignore your questions (most). One hand if it ain't mired in some conspiratorial background- then it is a word salad of obscure one line statements like the one that sort of asks- is legal truth better than being true- it's just silly. It's like you trying really hard to comes across as being thoughtful and sputtering vague statements in the form of questions. You are of a 'selective' conspiratorial mind. The questions asked by someone like that is best chalked up to reaction.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Those CIA fellas were heavily involved and mixed in with the Afghan mujahideen

Yes Yes it was CIA teamed up with Bakhts from Asian Super who fought and defeated Soviets
we never had anyrole in it It was all Moddiji and infamous Bob and Vagene Corp

BTW should you not be advocating for my ban instead of giving up to now asking me questions?

I still wonder why are you ashamed of your nationality? do you also consider yourself white American indian

I'm happy you don't see any more CIA in your country. That's a relief- now to work on 'Mossad did it to us angle', next.

Rich coming from one in whose country ISI is blamed even for premarital pregnancies

btw why are you a Nazi fan? You could be not any further from their version of Aryan race.

i am not Aryan Like Indian Pajeets who have Russian and German genes

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

 

[takeitwithyou]

Yes Yes it was CIA teamed up with Bakhts from Asian Super who fought and defeated Soviets
we never had anyrole in it It was all Moddiji and infamous Bob and Vagene Corp

I still wonder why are you ashamed of your nationality? do you also consider yourself white American indian


Rich coming from one in whose country ISI is blamed even for premarital pregnancies


i am not Aryan Like Indian Pajeets who have Russian and German genes

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

Okay, I get it - so you're traumatized by the neighbor. But really what does that have to do with my post i.e. has every reply have to be a noun verb and Modi/India for you? Just my piece of advice to you-you come across as suffering from India deranged syndrome. You actually took time to write that stuff. If it wasn't sad- it would be hilarious to see how much ownage they have on you.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Okay, I get it - so you're traumatized by the neighbor. But really what does that have to do with my post i.e. has every reply have to be a noun verb and Modi/India for you? Just my piece of advice to you-you come across as suffering from India deranged syndrome. You actually took time to write that stuff. If it wasn't sad- it would be hilarious to see how much ownage they have on you.

actually its other way around it Pakistanphobia along with lesser man syndrome and inferiority complex which force you crawl back to this forum after getting humiliated every then and now

 

[takeitwithyou]

actually its other way around it Pakistanphobia along with lesser man syndrome and inferiority complex which force you crawl back to this forum after getting humiliated every then and now

Wow, I achieved what nobody has - a first. No Noun/verb and Modi/India in your post. I shall henceforth be called Dr.Bombay

 

[TMA]

sentence got cut off- Those CIA fellas were heavily involved and mixed in with the Afghan mujahideen. BTW should you not be advocating for my ban instead of giving up to now asking me questions? I'm happy you don't see any more CIA . That's a relief- now to work on 'Mossad did it to us angle', next.

btw why are you a Nazi fan? You could be not any further from their version of Aryan race.



ah got you. so all of these others when it comes to being outside of Pakistani interest or harm done to it= Fake
But if done to Pakistan = true. Btw, do you believe the TTP killed them?

The Pakistan government, Al Queda, US government all agree OBL was taken out at Abbottabad. But you, since you did not see the body= it was fake. The application of your standard of truth to only those use cases among countries you despise is unattainable.

Now to why I ignore your questions (most). One hand if it ain't mired in some conspiratorial background- then it is a word salad of obscure one line statements like the one that sort of asks- is legal truth better than being true- it's just silly. It's like you trying really hard to comes across as being thoughtful and sputtering vague statements in the form of questions. You are of a 'selective' conspiratorial mind. The questions asked by someone like that is best chalked up to reaction.

I know that the Pakistani government agree with the US government and Al Qaeda. (I even said that the Pakistani government agree with the official story) But I do not trust them. That is my point. Their words are not enough on their own.

Cannot a conspiracy be true? What is your definition of conspiracy??

In argumentation, there is a fallacy of argumentum ad hominem. You are committing this by answering with stuff like "...its just silly...", "...you are of a selective conspiratorial mind."
Basically you are not answering them and retorting to veiled personal attacks. This is not argumentation. Rhetoric it is, but not argumentation.

Look you don't have to answer them to me...just answer them to yourself...

(The reason I respond, is not necessarily that I wish to persuade you or "defeat" you in argument, rather there will be people who will stumble upon this thread at one point or another, and I wish for THEM to see my argumentation vs yours and for them to make up their minds...hopefully I can convince them to put on their critical thinking skills and not just accept what governments say verbatim)

 

[ptldM3]

You see CIA


Blah blah blah- still hyperpower, still largest economic power, still the leader of the free world, still have NATO, still surround you, still levying sanctions you beg us to remove. You still the world's pariah. still a thug, hated by all

Still can’t win a war, losing allies to Russia, being kicked out of countries, still a thug that invaded.

Russia has laughed at US sanctions.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Still can’t win a war, losing allies to Russia, being kicked out of countries, still a thug that invaded.

Russia has laughed at US sanctions.

Russian Troll Factory worker. Losing allies you say- LOL- street hoodlum, we are adding! In 1999, Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republicjoined the organization, amid much debate within the organization and Russian opposition. Another expansion came with the accession of seven Central and Eastern European countries: Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia. These nations were first invited to start talks of membership during the 2002 Prague summit, and joined NATO shortly before the 2004 Istanbul summit. Albania and Croatia joined on 1 April 2009, prior to the 2009 Strasbourg–Kehl summit. The most recent member state to be added to NATO is Montenegro on 5 June 2017.

Your boys keep begging us to come off the sanctions

Btw, I've noticed how you never attack Trump, Russian troll factory worker- lol

Your GDP - sanctions
Your HDI- is mail order brides
and your Per capita income- standing in bread lines
and now you are the house slave for Putin for another 6 years.lol

 

[mike2000 is back]

I am a bit disappointed with Russia. Russia should have kicked out all of UK's diplomatic staff. UK was ONCE a respectable power, about 2 centuries ago. Now it has become a little prostitu.te with fake boobs and bad breath in the habit of sleeping with the elites. The X Russians now living in UK must be watching their arse cause they know it the UK who is taking them out one by one to portray a fake drama to blame Russia.

That little prostitute with fake boobs and bad breath is your home country's second largest aid donor and 2nd largest investor.
So if such a country is a little prostutute with fake boobs and disgusting breath then what is your home country Pakistan? What shall we honestly call it then?

Russian Troll Factory worker. Losing allies you say- LOL- street hoodlum, we are adding! In 1999, Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republicjoined the organization, amid much debate within the organization and Russian opposition. Another expansion came with the accession of seven Central and Eastern European countries: Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia. These nations were first invited to start talks of membership during the 2002 Prague summit, and joined NATO shortly before the 2004 Istanbul summit. Albania and Croatia joined on 1 April 2009, prior to the 2009 Strasbourg–Kehl summit. The most recent member state to be added to NATO is Montenegro on 5 June 2017.

Your boys keep begging us to come off the sanctions

Btw, I've noticed how you never attack Trump, Russian troll factory worker- lol

Your GDP - sanctions
Your HDI- is mail order brides
and your Per capita income- standing in bread lines
and now you are the house slave for Putin for another 6 years.lol

Let Russia be dude. They are already struggling enough economically, putting more sanction on them will only make things worse. They already have about 1/3rd of our GDP despite having over twice our population and massive oil and gas reserves. We shouldn't make things worse for them. I think we should solve this through diplomatic means.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Let Russia be dude. They are already struggling enough economically, putting more sanction on them will only make things worse. They already have about 1/3rd of our GDP despite having over twice our population and massive oil and gas reserves. We shouldn't make things worse for them. I think we should solve this through diplomatic means.

Oh hell no, we are going stomp on them repeatedly. They going to be sub 1 trillion GDP by the time we are finished with them

 

[Solomon2]

Twenty three diplomats of the British Embassy in Moscow have been declared personae non gratae and will be expelled within a week’s time

I can't say I'm surprised: after all the fuss and noise the Brits expelled only 23 Russians, kept their names anonymous, and made sure to tell the world that they were certain these 23 had revealed themselves as spies. Obviously the Brits were trying to have their cake and eat it too, thinking noise and a wrist-slap would suffice, rather than take action that would bite Britain economically as well, like limiting their financial services to pro-Putin oligarchs. Maybe they thought the U.S. and France would make up the difference, but of course that doesn't say much for Britain itself.

 

[Dalit]

There is a global turning-point in the world right now. The West has no chance to start a world war so that it does not directly affect their territory (as it was in the First and Second World Wars). Of course, Western elites are nervous - their world hegemony is coming to an end. They do not imagine they will have to negotiate with other nations, (as it was in the times of the USSR) rather then just give orders to everyone.

Well said. The reason why the Western world is behaving this way is because there is change. The Western world feels threatened and challenged. They can't accept the new reality before their eyes. China, Russia and others are leading the change.

Too bad for the West. This change cannot be reversed. You will notice a lot of pleading, begging and screaming. It doesn't make any difference. The tone has been set.