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Critical technology will not be shared by Russia, even India AMCA design leader hinted during interview that Russia practically doesnt give any thing to India, not even design work package during FGFA program (SU 57) despite India funding the program. This can be seen when he is asked about the relation between AMCA and FGFA and he said he doesnt know anything about FGFA program.

I don’t expect the Russians to share the technology, but like the Chinese, the Turks would have to go through a process of reverse engineering
 
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I think both Russian designed fifth generation fighters and the chinease j20 all look way inferior in looks than the f22 raptor.

and I bet my last dollar the technology on f22 raptor be it engines stealth or sensor fusion radar electronics beats the 3 asian fighters easily

No,No,No, India's AMCA is the only queen.
 
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I don’t expect the Russians to share the technology, but like the Chinese, the Turks would have to go through a process of reverse engineering

The Turk will reverse engineer F 110 that they have had some production on some of the engine parts and experience in assembly and how the engine work (maintenance capability). This is why they use GE F 110 engine to fly their TFX prototypes. The design has been made by using that engine.

If something happen with their indigenous engine ( which I believe resemble many similarity with F 110 engine) program, they may think US new administration will be softer to them than previous Trump administration, so that they can order F 110 engine from GE while keep developing their own engine in parallel.
 
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Here it is .... I know there is a saying "beauty lies always in the eyes of the beholder" but here - and in strict to contrast to the Su-57 - I simply cannot see any beauty!

Anyway a most interesting design.

(Image via @papabear747 / Twitter)

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It looks like stealth F-16 of 21 ct.
 
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It looks like stealth F-16 of 21 ct.


Not sure if I already noted here, but exactly my thought: The more I think about it, the more I like the approach of this "thing" (and that's not meant in a negative way).

Su-57 and J-20 are hardly for sale, too large and too expensive, F-35 is even more expensive, more complex and above all not accessible to many countries for political reasons ... and everything else like JF-17, Tejas, J-10, Gripen etc. are either too small and therefore often inefficient or, like the good old F-16, slowly out of date.

From that point of view, this "thing" could play the role of a modern F-16, or indeed what the USAF plans with their concept of Multi-Role fighter (MR-X) F-16 Replacement ("4.5 Generation Fighter").
 
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Pakistan will not allow India acquire this aircraft. Pakistan-Russian friendship has grown deeper and taller than some mountains now largely helped by India's new found affinity towards western weapons.

The Russian president visit to Pakistan is imminent as discussed here on this forum. If Pakistan can fund some of the developmental costs, they could be the first export customer.

Russia needs access to warm water ports and will ditch India now at the drop of a hat.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Russia has already dumped India a long time back.
 
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Especially if it can get its hands on the latest Russian Izdeliye-30 engine, to help advance its own engine manufacturing industry and the T-FX program.
Russians currently can't replicate even their own Soviet era AL41 engine.

An engine from a dual engine fighter will not work for a dedicated one engined machine for many reasons. Biggest ones are: reliability, restartability (dual engined planes simply don't have to deal with unpowered restart after engine stall, they restart the stalled engine using gas from working one), survivability (fire suppression, emergency operating modes with dead cooling, fan feathering).

Russians had 20 ton ab, 12 ton dry thrust engine in prototypes for decades. They sold blueprints to us in early nineties, but our engine makers still can't serially manufacture it.


They also had a single engined NK-25 variant for medium bombers, but the project went nowhere as Su 22 line was ended, and single engned Su 24 was never made. Mig 27 was a candidate for re-engining, but it too was sunsetted because of 4th generation planes were entering service, which all were 2 engined.


Almost 15 tons dry thrust... what a monster still
 
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Here it is .... I know there is a saying "beauty lies always in the eyes of the beholder" but here - and in strict to contrast to the Su-57 - I simply cannot see any beauty!

Anyway a most interesting design.

(Image via @papabear747 / Twitter)

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It’s like a single engine hybrid of the YF-23 and X-32 but a lot less elegant, although it looks very functional. Also the exhaust is a standard design rather then use of IR suppression as in those two Boeing designs.
 
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An engine from a dual engine fighter will not work for a dedicated one engined machine for many reasons. Biggest ones are: reliability, restartability (dual engined planes simply don't have to deal with unpowered restart after engine stall, they restart the stalled engine using gas from working one), survivability (fire suppression, emergency operating modes with dead cooling, fan feathering).

That above may be true if the engine was taken as is (from a dual engine fighter) without any modifications at all and install it directly in a single engine fighter... But with some modification it will work just fine... examples of such engines are :

Pratt & Whitney F100 - in use by F15 & F-16
General Electric F404 - in use by F-18 C/D & JAS-39 C/D & KAI T-50
General Electric F414 - in use by F-18 E/F & JAS-39 E/F
 
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That above may be true if the engine was taken as is (from a dual engine fighter) without any modifications at all and install it directly in a single engine fighter... But with some modification it will work just fine... examples of such engines are :

Pratt & Whitney F100 - in use by F15 & F-16
General Electric F404 - in use by F-18 C/D & JAS-39 C/D & KAI T-50
General Electric F414 - in use by F-18 E/F & JAS-39 E/F
Americans do it differently, they too had engines for strictly dual engined only planes in the past.

Most of their recent engines F100, and on were done the other way around: make an engine for a single engined plane, and then chop off unnecessary stuff for dual-engined setup.

Such will be heavier than engines designed from the start for dual engine setup, but if your goal is to make more money on it, that works.
 
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