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And apparently you missed the point completely, that it is wrong to use individual industry or accomplishment to compare one country against another. Currently, despite disparities in individual industry that anyone can name, China and South Korea are relatively the same. South Korea's human intellectual capital may be focused on other more profitable ventures like computer chips, but that is the beauty of the human intellect: flexibility. If South Korea can make computer chips superior to the Chinese and in greater numbers, as in global dominance, South Korea if necessary can have its own space program.

Who cares?

When it comes to the foreign electronics purchase, i'd rather buy the Japanese one than those cheap Korean knockoffs.

My Samsung LCD got a blank screen just after one year of purchase, whereas my Sharp one has lasted more than 6 years, and it still works fine.

Those Koreans should stop boasting about electronics until they reach the level of their Japanese counterpart.
 
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Who cares?

When it comes to the foreign electronics purchase, i'd rather buy the Japanese one than those cheap Korean knockoffs.

My Samsung LCD got a blank screen just after one year of purchase, whereas my Sharp one has lasted more than 6 years, and it still works fine.

The Koreans should stop boasting about electronics until they reach the level of their Japanese counterpart.
Now you are reaching, more like straining. Everyone suffers from a degree of 'lemons' in their manufacturing processes, and South Korea is no different. Just because you have a unique experience, that does not mean such experience is common. My competitors are Samsung, Hynix, Toshiba, and others. I have seen their memory architectures under an SEM. I have seen their Chinese versions when they contracted out to Chinese foundries and I do not want to buy their Chinese versions. I have an advantage over you in that I can examine their semicon products in volume whereas YOU can buy only one or at best a few or whatever.
 
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Does it matter?

At least Cambodians including many other Southeast Asians wanted to fight for their freedom from the colonization.
Got any credible NON-CHINESE sources that says the Koreans simply felled over when the Japanese invaded? But am sure you got plenty of excuses when Manchuria felled, no? Or how about the Chinese depended on a handful of US flyers to fight the Japanese on Chinese soil?
 
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Now you are reaching, more like straining. Everyone suffers from a degree of 'lemons' in their manufacturing processes, and South Korea is no different. Just because you have a unique experience, that does not mean such experience is common. My competitors are Samsung, Hynix, Toshiba, and others. I have seen their memory architectures under an SEM. I have seen their Chinese versions when they contracted out to Chinese foundries and I do not want to buy their Chinese versions. I have an advantage over you in that I can examine their semicon products in volume whereas YOU can buy only one or at best a few or whatever.

China's civilian technology is still relatively inferior, i am not denying it.

At least we are totally honest, unlikely the Great Korea who is pretending to be a technological powerhouse meanwhile they are Mr.Nobody when it comes to the military technology.
 
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China's civilian technology is still relatively inferior, i am not denying it.

At least we are totally honest, unlikely the Great Korea who is pretending to be technological powerhouse meanwhile they are Mr.Nobody when it comes to the military technology.
The great thing about the South Koreans' civilian technology is that it is globally applicable and usable. Guess which is more welcome, a South Korean washing machine or a Chinese tank?
 
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No matter what ideological you have I don't care but the fact it is your Russia is close to Korean Peninsular and it may cause you to conflicts, it may not happen to day but tomorrow, nothing guaranteed 100%. I feel like you try to flatter the South Korean to bail for your interests or you are just a too innocent person!? Will the American let you have warm relationship with South Korean more than them, NO, beside the economic corporation, I don't think between Russia and South Korea can go further than that. The USA will try hard to break the relationship, if they can't they will kill South Korea pro-Russia forces event the president of South Korea, it is not too hard for the USA while the American absolutely dominated the vessels state. So don't think that you put down your communist status mean you are safe, the World still view your Russia as a bad guy and an aggressor to their peace. Just look what you have done with the East Europe and yesterday with Georgia. Who would believe your Russian? NO!!!

We are talking about the same Georgia that launched an indiscriminate attack on South Ossetia while attacking an overrunning a Russian peacekeeping barracks? What Georgia did to South Ossetia was no different than what Saddam did to Kuwait. Georgia was the first to launch attacks on Russian troops not visa versa. Shaakashvili long had ambitions to take South Ossetia, so for support he sent Georgian troops to fight in Iraq, that way no matter what he did the US and much of Europe would support Georgia--and that is exactly what happened. Shaakashvili went on television and played the victim by calling Russians aggressors when in fact Georgia started the war, he than stooped to licking ***** by ranting about democracy and sovereignty.

The moral of the story is: learn some history and stop licking Chinese *****.
 
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The great thing about the South Koreans' civilian technology is that it is globally applicable and usable. Guess which is more welcome, a South Korean washing machine or a Chinese tank?

The Chinese tanks and aircrafts are perfectly fine for our army.

Why we would keep the mass production if these products have quality issues?
 
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The Chinese tanks and aircrafts are perfectly fine for our army.

Why we would keep the mass production if these products have quality issues?
Chinese can keep Chinese military technology. But the world is more eager for South Korean civilian technology.
 
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Chinese can keep Chinese military technology. But the world is more eager for South Korean civilian technology.

Cheap is the main factor, most people still trust the Japanese/German civilian technology more.
 
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Cheap is the main factor, most people still trust the Japanese/German civilian technology more.
You can try to denigrate the South Koreans but it will be in vain. Japan may have some advantages because the Japanese had more US investment and support, but you cannot elevate Chinese technology by proxy.
 
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Apparently you're a little behind on current events (20-40 years).


No matter what ideological you have I don't care but the fact it is your Russia is close to Korean Peninsular and it may cause you to conflicts, it may not happen to day but tomorrow, nothing guaranteed 100%. I feel like you try to flatter the South Korean to bail for your interests or you are just a too innocent person!? Will the American let you have warm relationship with South Korean more than them, NO, beside the economic corporation, I don't think between Russia and South Korea can go further than that. The USA will try hard to break the relationship, if they can't they will kill South Korea pro-Russia forces event the president of South Korea, it is not too hard for the USA while the American absolutely dominated the vessels state. So don't think that you put down your communist status mean you are safe, the World still view your Russia as a bad guy and an aggressor to their peace. Just look what you have done with the East Europe and yesterday with Georgia. Who would believe your Russian? NO!!!

lolwut? Russia's credit rating is pretty good. Unlike the USA, they don't have huge debts to repay.


Furthermore, everybody knows your Ruskie democracy is just a fake, you still have dictatorship with only few powerful guys controlling of your whole country such as Putin or Medvedev. That's is why the West and USA have been using human rights, democracy, freedom of politic cards to against you just like they do with China. In my opinion, I do admire the Chinese more than you because they indeed have more democracy than your Russia, China in the outside looks like one party dictatorship but they are more flexible and realistic than any other political systems. China long blooding history has proved that they cannot growing well if they don't have democracy, so I don't think they choose the opposite approach to prevent themselves from development; China Communist Party just a dud, the Chinese do capitalism damn well more than you though.

Some Western politicians have stated that Russia is a 'mafia state'. I am not sure as to what extent that's true. But it would certainly be better if the country becomes a more favorable place for local and international business. Russia is still more advanced than China nonetheless. Both countries have their respective human rights issues, every country does, including Western countries.

1-:lol: it is irony when it coming out from a Russian about "socialist camp" it like a prostitute criticize others don't have virgins!? Your Russia is the most evil nation in the World even with your communist comrade, China. How did you treat your comrade, don't you remember?

mmm...I am sure the Nazis would qualify more as far as being 'evil' goes :lol:

2- "North Korea is China's sphere of influence" Yeah right, you just give a pure confession about how powerless your Russia today in the region, you really want too but your ability is "quite limited"! China never say that way because they don't think NK is a tool of them but a partner, a comrade in arms who are fighting for survive. Maybe Russia is too big and too "superpower" so everything will be concluded to a "sphere of influence"!?

North Korea is a gone case - with or without China. With Russia? lol.

3- "Russia is not involved in the conflict in South Korea and North Korea" ... Well I let you dream about the paradise relation between the Russia and South Korea, but I just remind you again that once the Korean Peninsular united and independent, nothing will worth both Russia and USA. For example: look at how Vietnam bite back at their comrade Chinese. If the Korean choose to go with the American then your Ruskie will be in huge of threat, that time maybe the world has a new conflict between too "old friends" :lol:, however if the Korean choose the opposite way then USA will be frightened and will like a crazy beast, that time both of your Ruskie and Korean will loosing blood more than you could image ==> China & USA will be friend again to prevent the evil couple Korean and Ruskie!!! Worth for me either because we Cambodian have define that Chinese is our best ally, Chinese good we good :lol:

I didn't understand a thing you said in the early parts of that point. Who cars what Cambodia thinks? Nobody cares even what Thailand thinks.

Last, I want you guys to know that the American is not as good as Chinese, just look how Chinese treat the Viets when the Viets bite back at their previous benefactor, nothing!? The American is absolutely different, when you betray them, you will pay hard!!!

It's feasible. But then, I don't see any reason why Vietnam would bite back the Americans IF they help them against Chinese influence. Remember, China and Vietnam have specific issues at hand - mostly over the disputed islands. Vietnam doesn't have any territorial disputes with the USA. It's not like they are biting China for no reason. And if America doesn't help out for some reason, Russia and India certainly would.

Hello, economic corporation is a absolutely different, as I said above, even the Chinese have good economic relations with the West and USA more than your non-communist Russia! Do the Chinese and the West loving each others? NO!!! :lol:

China has a good relationship with the West in a more 'business' sense. You'd be surprised just how much Russia trades with the EU my friend.

:lol: I though you were more surprised than me, but anyways, you Russian are quite funny when dealing with others about politics. In the future when the Korean want to take some of their lands back from your Russia, don't blackmail them using your fancy Tu-95 flying over Korean penisular. :lol:

Russia has disputes with Japan, not Korea.

The USA will "love" you very much if you are a new president of South Korea :lol:

I think what you said above is just because the Ruskie want to do something blackmail the NK, Russian indeed is doing great in this business, they use you as a chest for their political issues, they want to pressure the NK, in fact NK do have some border disputes with Russia these days, Russian are also want to have more influence with the North, but over than that, the Ruskie needs NK survive so they can stay away from the U.S. threat more than they need your SK.

SK is done, you can run nowhere, you are stuck hard with the USA, you live or die depend on them so make sure you don't make them unhappy.

Again, no one cares about North Korea as long as Dr. Evil and Mini Me remains. The best move forward for the Koreans is to reunite.

What 'border disputes' with Russia are you talking about?

SK is not Middle East. They do use a considerable amount of inventory of Russian origin. In fact, I was surprised as to just how much Russian equipment they use by finding out in this very forum.

It's understandable that it would be difficult for the Koreans to get off the invisible chains of the US. However, if the T-50 deal with Russia ever takes off, it'll be big. They would be smart not to go for the F-35, and frankly the T-50 has good potential in the export market.
 
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S. Korea to Deploy Supersonic Ship-to-Surface Missiles

This 2009 article is the best English source I can do, as 95% of information is not in English. But that article is talking about a ground-attack version of an anti-ship missile.

Here is the spec info(Not in English)

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- length : 6.5 m
- diameter : 0.5 m
- weight : 1.5 ton
So what we have here:

1) Newspaper report about possible developement of supersonic missile with range of 50 km. Obviously that has nothing to do with Yakhont.
2) Blog speculations that this supersonic missile will be actually Korean version of Yakhont.

There is no any official sources or pics to confirm these speculations.
 
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haha "thuggish", it is funny when it coming out from your Korean, the most fascist people in Asia.
The rest of the world disagrees.

Don't blame me for discriminate against your people
You are in no position to discriminate against anyone. Not everyone can discriminate; only those with power could. And you have none.

Let see how you react with the Japanese about Dokdo islands, thuggish? You are the thug!!!
Why?

But I warn you again that do not act the same to Chinese when you have any territories disputes with them, they will crush you to pieces
Ask Vietnamese who were worse; the Korean troops(1967~1973), or the Chinese(1979)?

Plus, when Chinese have dispute with others they are blamed a thug, so how about your American invading in Iraq and Afghanistan?
The US doesn't make any territorial claims over Iraq and Afghanistan. Beside, the Afghan war is UN approved.

also your South Korean powerless but having great warlike behavior toward your neighbors China
Korean coast guard arrest 5,000 Chinese fishermen a year, and have recently begain using live ammo against Chinese fishermen resisting arrest.

Japanese rightwingers complain why their coast guard don't manhandle Chinese fishermen like Koreans do.

if so not only the USA but also your puny SK and Japan will be crash to pieces under hell fire of nuclear ballistic missiles.
1. China vowed to never to use nuke first under any circumstance. Only recently the US president Obama made a similar pledge to never nuke a non-nuclear nation under any circumstance.

2. If China breaks its pledge, then the US retaliatory nukes drop on China.

How dare you today team up with the west
Japan and Korea are considered to be "The West".

Democracy of South Korea is the best!!!
Not the best, but at least it's comparable to the UK.

19 United Kingdom 8.16 Full democracy
20 South Korea 8.11 Full democracy
21 Uruguay 8.10 Full democracy
22 Japan 8.08 Full democracy
23 Belgium 8.05 Full democracy

all of your argument will go to the final, bashing Chinese.
What else? Koreans just don't like Chinese.

Keep downgrading the Chinese if it makes you feel safer or less insecure!!!
So you do know Koreans belittle Chinese.

Funny that the technologically superior mighty Great Korea can't even accomplish what China did in 1970s.
Chinese rockets are modified ICBMs, which Korea has no use for.

I wonder how many times you guys would keep blaming Russia for your rocket failures.
Russia did agree to third launch free of charge.

Our 10 petaflops supercomputer in the end of this year gonna power with our indigenous cpu.
There is no such thing as an indigenous Chinese CPU. Making one doesn't make any sense, and past claims were proven to be frauds.

Native Chinese Supercomputer Could Be World's Most Efficient | Popular Science
"This is possible because of the Godson chip’s relatively low clock speed, at 1.0 GHz, and its use of the old-school 64-bit MIPS architecture, according to HPC Wire."

you should go to ask when the mighty Great Korea can independently launch their own rocket.
2021.

Currently, despite disparities in individual industry that anyone can name, China and South Korea are relatively the same.
No they are not. Koreans are the oldest of Altaic race from Siberia, while Han Chinese are Southeast Asians originating from Thailand. These is why Koreans and Chinese can tell each other apart with just a look, because they physically look different.

Who cares?

When it comes to the foreign electronics purchase, i'd rather buy the Japanese one than those cheap Korean knockoffs.
Go to Best Buy, Korean brand TV sets sell for more than Japanese brand TV sets.

My Samsung LCD got a blank screen just after one year of purchase, whereas my Sharp one has lasted more than 6 years, and it still works fine.
Must not have happened.


Those Koreans should stop boasting about electronics until they reach the level of their Japanese counterpart.
That's odd, because Japanese rightwingers say Japanese electronics industry was beatend by Koreans long time ago.

The Chinese tanks and aircrafts are perfectly fine for our army.

Why we would keep the mass production if these products have quality issues?
Chinese don't care about quality much.

So what we have here:

1) Newspaper report about possible developement of supersonic missile with range of 50 km. Obviously that has nothing to do with Yakhont.
The original plan was simply make the subsonic SSM-700K anti-ship missile supersonic by replacing the engine. That plan was later changed and decided to go for a new design utilizing Yakhont ramjet propulsion.

2) Blog speculations that this supersonic missile will be actually Korean version of Yakhont.
That article is quoting from a well-known reporter named Kim Byung Gi specialized in military issues. Thus considered to be highly reliable.

There is no any official sources or pics to confirm these speculations.
I wish I could have located the warhead design slide, but it was quickly taken down due to security reasons. But what is true is that there is a supersonic missile that uses Yakhont ramjet engine and Korean guidance and warhead designs. Because of the weight reduction relative Yakhont and Brahmos, it could easily be air-launched(assuming it could be integrated) or be carried by smaller naval ships.
 
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So what we have here:

1) Newspaper report about possible developement of supersonic missile with range of 50 km. Obviously that has nothing to do with Yakhont.
2) Blog speculations that this supersonic missile will be actually Korean version of Yakhont.

There is no any official sources or pics to confirm these speculations.

Korean powers of speculation and hype on a nonexistent missile. A 50 Km missile that might not even supersonic is obviously the same as a 300 Km one that is confirmed to be supersonic. The imagination on these people are astounding.
 
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