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Russia is taking steps to ensure that it protects itself from any future dollar or euro sanctions. Moscow boasts the world’s 5th biggest foreign exchange reserves and the 6th largest gold reserves. In total, the assets amount to over $1.5 trillion.

While the West is continuing to try and punish Russia via economic sanctions, the response of the Russian Central Bank has been to diversify away from the euro and dollar – and to buy up more gold.

As the geopolitical situation in Ukraine deteriorates, Russia is moving to protect itself from currency risks associated with the euro and the greenback.

In the first half of 2014, Russia’s Central Bank reduced its foreign currency reserves by 2.5 percent.

“Due to the worsening geopolitical situation, the Central Bank actively redistributed foreign exchange reserves, replacing US Treasury bonds with gold,” Alfa Bank’s chief economist, Natalya Orlova, told Kommersant.

Instead of buying euros and dollars, Russia’s Central Bank is eyeing the Chinese yuan and the Japanese yen.

Boosting currency swaps and bilateral payments with China and other strategic trade partners will continue to bypass the US dollar. Last week, Russia’s and China’s central banks have agreed to increase currency swaps.

Holding more of these currencies is a logical move for Russia, which has high trade volumes with both China and Japan. In 2013, trade turnover with China was close to $90 billion and over $33 billion with Japan.

Russia is fast increasing its gold stockpile and at the end of July, the total volume was worth more than $45 billion.

According to Yaroslav Lissovolik, chief economist for Deutsche Bank in Moscow, this is the best way for Russia to provide stability to its foreign exchange reserves.

"The fact that Russia has intensified its diversification process reflects the fact that a fairly high proportion of reserves were held in dollars and euros, while the share of gold was low,” Lissovolik told Kommersant.

Over the summer, reserves were added at the highest rate since the end of 2009. In June, Russia’s Central Bank added 54 tons of gold, which catapulted Russia ahead of China in terms of total gold, according to IMF data.

In the last decade, Russia has become the world’s top gold buyer, adding more than 600 tons to its vaults.

Other countries are also actively adding gold. In the last six months, Kazakhstan’s Central Bank increased its gold investment from 12 tons to 155.8 tons.

Conversely, developed countries such as the US, Germany, Italy, France, and Spain are keeping gold reserves at a stasis. Germany sold 2.9 tons of gold reserves from the Bundesbank but still remains the world’s # 2 holder of gold, after the USA.

Russia seeks safe haven in gold, away from dollar and euro — RT Business
 
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The good thing in all of this is that between Russia China and South Africa, they own 40% of all gold production in the world and they dont export any of it. Its for their own countries. And if Argentina joins the BRICS, they would have close to 50% of the worlds gold production.

They have 50% of the worlds gold and probably just as much in commodities ie petrol gas minerals etc. By 2020 the dollar wont even be the most widely used currency in the world anymore. This is the beginning of the end.
 
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Peter C has no idea what he is talking about. Chinas state gold purchases are a secret. But if you add up the projected production, what the government buys on the open market AND what private citizens are buying AND if you add the Hong Kong gold exchange figures. Then yes China is the biggest purchaser of gold as a country as a whole. If you dont add all that up and just add up state production and purchases then Russia is the largest net buyer of gold.

Of course this peter doesnt know or understand any of this, hes just nitpick trolling to obfuscate the general discussion. How come these nato trolls can never stay on topic.

Next thing you know he'll be trying to correct your grammar.


Grasping at straws we call it.

its Chinese market and producers but the official Chinese government bought less than Russian goverment over the years. No one can say exactly who has most gold in his country
 
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Peter C has no idea what he is talking about. Chinas state gold purchases are a secret. But if you add up the projected production, what the government buys on the open market AND what private citizens are buying AND if you add the Hong Kong gold exchange figures. Then yes China is the biggest purchaser of gold as a country as a whole. If you dont add all that up and just add up state production and purchases then Russia is the largest net buyer of gold.

Of course this peter doesnt know or understand any of this, hes just nitpick trolling to obfuscate the general discussion. How come these nato trolls can never stay on topic.

Next thing you know he'll be trying to correct your grammar.


Grasping at straws we call it.
WTF? I'm pointing out to the original poster ChineseTiger1986
that he has explicitly stated in previous posts that the Chinese government is stocking up on crazy amounts of gold.
He even states they may have over 10,000 tons by now.

He now posts an article that contradicts what he has posted in the past.
"In the last decade, Russia has become the world’s top gold buyer, adding more than 600 tons to its vaults."

Why are you jumping on me for that?????

Read his post ->>> Yuan goes global | Page 2
Wait I'll simply post it because OBVIOUSLY you can't handle a single click:
"Not only we have imported over 5000 tons of gold in the last 5 years, but we are also the largest gold producer for many years....So don't be surprised that our gold reserve right now is over 10000 tons."
 
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Russia is taking steps to ensure that it protects itself from any future dollar or euro sanctions. Moscow boasts the world’s 5th biggest foreign exchange reserves and the 6th largest gold reserves. In total, the assets amount to over $1.5 trillion.

While the West is continuing to try and punish Russia via economic sanctions, the response of the Russian Central Bank has been to diversify away from the euro and dollar – and to buy up more gold.

As the geopolitical situation in Ukraine deteriorates, Russia is moving to protect itself from currency risks associated with the euro and the greenback.

In the first half of 2014, Russia’s Central Bank reduced its foreign currency reserves by 2.5 percent.

“Due to the worsening geopolitical situation, the Central Bank actively redistributed foreign exchange reserves, replacing US Treasury bonds with gold,” Alfa Bank’s chief economist, Natalya Orlova, told Kommersant.

Instead of buying euros and dollars, Russia’s Central Bank is eyeing the Chinese yuan and the Japanese yen.

Boosting currency swaps and bilateral payments with China and other strategic trade partners will continue to bypass the US dollar. Last week, Russia’s and China’s central banks have agreed to increase currency swaps.

Holding more of these currencies is a logical move for Russia, which has high trade volumes with both China and Japan. In 2013, trade turnover with China was close to $90 billion and over $33 billion with Japan.

Russia is fast increasing its gold stockpile and at the end of July, the total volume was worth more than $45 billion.

According to Yaroslav Lissovolik, chief economist for Deutsche Bank in Moscow, this is the best way for Russia to provide stability to its foreign exchange reserves.

"The fact that Russia has intensified its diversification process reflects the fact that a fairly high proportion of reserves were held in dollars and euros, while the share of gold was low,” Lissovolik told Kommersant.

Over the summer, reserves were added at the highest rate since the end of 2009. In June, Russia’s Central Bank added 54 tons of gold, which catapulted Russia ahead of China in terms of total gold, according to IMF data.

In the last decade, Russia has become the world’s top gold buyer, adding more than 600 tons to its vaults.

Other countries are also actively adding gold. In the last six months, Kazakhstan’s Central Bank increased its gold investment from 12 tons to 155.8 tons.

Conversely, developed countries such as the US, Germany, Italy, France, and Spain are keeping gold reserves at a stasis. Germany sold 2.9 tons of gold reserves from the Bundesbank but still remains the world’s # 2 holder of gold, after the USA.

Russia seeks safe haven in gold, away from dollar and euro — RT Business

Well if Gold is really that safe,then we already have one of the largest reserves of Gold on the planet
 
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Gold is as safe as people want it to be, it can be as volatile as anything.
The good thing in all of this is that between Russia China and South Africa, they own 40% of all gold production in the world and they dont export any of it. Its for their own countries. And if Argentina joins the BRICS, they would have close to 50% of the worlds gold production.

They have 50% of the worlds gold and probably just as much in commodities ie petrol gas minerals etc. By 2020 the dollar wont even be the most widely used currency in the world anymore. This is the beginning of the end.

hahaha yeah the beginning of the end is having control of a finite amount of resources that are already running out and are going to diminish alot faster when they are solely in the hands of a few countries who have almost half the worlds population. If it comes to that situation then I think the rest of the world will be using far more efficient energy means, as people have said before how oil companies etc bought up alot of patents before for batteries/energy.

The supression of free energy exists for one thing, so that when the oil etc runs out the big oil companies have something else to sell us, when oil/mineral wealth is at a low or being controlled by others then free energy will be available, you think that a countries like USA/UK/Germany are some how going to be in the stone age whilst South Africa is flying ahead, ha. Eventually none of us will have any resources, any control by certain countries will not be the beginning of the end for the countries they dislike but for the world.
 
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Non-EU countries should also freeze Russian assets. Russian aggression shouldn't stay unpunished since Ukraine was not the first and the last victim of this aggressor.
 
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Lol...youre just not very intelligent. I dont blame you for your nonsensical comments. If youre getting paid to post, id say you need a pay cut. Dont they require a least a MS or something to be a nato troll?

But....if you knew anything about reserve currencies and not just being a nato bot, youd understand my points are purely historic and academic. Whats happening isnt debatable. At least by serious scholars ( though nato trolls are free to circle jerkthemselvesall the want ). The Dollar will be finished withi the decade.

Like i said. Its going allong swimmingly. Just hope you Egyptians have some gold when tshtf

Gold is as safe as people want it to be, it can be as volatile as anything.


hahaha yeah the beginning of the end is having control of a finite amount of resources that are already running out and are going to diminish alot faster when they are solely in the hands of a few countries who have almost half the worlds population. If it comes to that situation then I think the rest of the world will be using far more efficient energy means, as people have said before how oil companies etc bought up alot of patents before for batteries/energy.

The supression of free energy exists for one thing, so that when the oil etc runs out the big oil companies have something else to sell us, when oil/mineral wealth is at a low or being controlled by others then free energy will be available, you think that a countries like USA/UK/Germany are some how going to be in the stone age whilst South Africa is flying ahead, ha. Eventually none of us will have any resources, any control by certain countries will not be the beginning of the end for the countries they dislike but for the world.

Non EU countries dont give a shit about nato propaganda. Only nato slave states like the gcc are stupid enough for that.

Its no longer the world against Russia

Its not Nato and their allies against the world. If you dont understand this. You need to travel outside your little muslim country...the rest of the world doesnt believe your propaganda. We saw through nato lies a long time ago. And our numbers are growing exponetially.

6 years ago Nato would have invaded Syria. Now they can only send their terrorists. They keep losing power every day. The world sees it.. You cant hide your weakness.

Youve invaded Syria with your beheading muslim terrorists but you dont have the balls to go in alone.

Non-EU countries should also freeze Russian assets. Russian aggression shouldn't stay unpunished since Ukraine was not the first and the last victim of this aggressor.
 
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Lol...youre just not very intelligent. I dont blame you for your nonsensical comments. If youre getting paid to post, id say you need a pay cut. Dont they require a least a MS or something to be a nato troll?

But....if you knew anything about reserve currencies and not just being a nato bot, youd understand my points are purely historic and academic. Whats happening isnt debatable. At least by serious scholars ( though nato trolls are free to circle jerkthemselvesall the want ). The Dollar will be finished withi the decade.

Like i said. Its going allong swimmingly. Just hope you Egyptians have some gold when tshtf



Non EU countries dont give a shit about nato propaganda. Only nato slave states like the gcc are stupid enough for that.

Its no longer the world against Russia

Its not Nato and their allies against the world. If you dont understand this. You need to travel outside your little muslim country...the rest of the world doesnt believe your propaganda. We saw through nato lies a long time ago. And our numbers are growing exponetially.

6 years ago Nato would have invaded Syria. Now they can only send their terrorists. They keep losing power every day. The world sees it.. You cant hide your weakness.

Youve invaded Syria with your beheading muslim terrorists but you dont have the balls to go in alone.
Who supports Russian aggression? Please say the country names and also include source where they supported Putin's actions.
 
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the Dollar is still by far the most used currency in the world and main currency reserves for every country in the globe. the only currency which stands a chance against the dollar is the Euro. However the euro still lags behind, the russian ruble isnt even on the cards(given russia's low economic weight and world trade) the yuan also has a chance in a decade or two from now, but i dont think it will even come close to the U.S dollar, since chinas financial market is still quite immature and closed. This can be seen by the fact that some of chinas biggest technology companies(who are as big as their american counter parts) always mostly list in the U.S and to some extent Hong Kong, instead of listing in their own country. This shows how much the country lags behind in its financial market reforms.
So as of now i dont see any currency which poses a threat to the dollar hegemony, so any talk of dollar collapse is all wishful thinking.:agree::bounce:
 
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