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Russia’s Stealth Fighter(T 50) Could Match U.S. Jets, Analyst Says

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Russia’s T-50 stealth fighter prototype, the first radar-evading warplane outside the U.S. when it debuted in January 2010, is slightly less stealthy than the American F-22 and about equal to the smaller F-35. But in several other respects the new warplane from the Russian Sukhoi design bureau is actually superior to the American models.

That’s the surprising conclusion of the first-ever public scientific analysis of the T-50′s Radar Cross-Section (RCS), completed this week by Dr. Carlo Kopp, an analyst with the independent think tank Air Power Australia.

“The shaping of the T-50 is inferior to that of the F-22 Raptor,” Kopp writes in his dense, jargon-heavy report. But the F-35 and T-50, he adds, exhibit “similar … RCS behavior.”

But Kopp’s assessment of the T-50 comes with caveats. Quite a few of them, actually. To match the stealthiness of the Lockheed Martin F-35 — to say nothing of the company’s F-22 — Sukhoi’s engineers will have to, among other changes, modify the T-50′s engines to a less obtrusive fitting and add a layer of radar-absorbing material to the plane’s skin.

With the revised engines and skin, the T-50′s “specular RCS performance will satisfy the Very Low Observable (VLO) requirement that strong specular returns are absent in the nose sector angular domain,” Kopp writes. Translated into plain English, Kopp’s saying that an optimized version of the Russian jet could be very, very difficult to detect by most radars as it’s bearing down on them.


Major refinements are standard practice as stealth prototypes go through development, it’s worth noting. The F-22 and the F-35 underwent big design changes as each was developed over 15 years or more. The T-50, only four of which have been built, has been flying for just under three years and isn’t scheduled to enter frontline service until 2016 at the earliest. There’s time for the Russians to finesse the design, just as the Chinese are doing with their stealth planes.

Granted, by 2016 the Americans could possess hundreds of combat-ready F-35s plus the roughly 180 F-22s already in service. The T-50 could make up for its lateness with impressive performance that in some ways exceeds even the F-22′s vaunted capabilities.

One Russian advantage is what Kopp calls “extreme plus agility” — a consequence of the T-50′s “advanced aerodynamic design, exceptional thrust/weight ratio performance and three dimensional thrust vectoring integrated with an advanced digital flight control system.”

The second advantage: “exceptional combat persistence, the result of an unusually large 25,000-pound internal fuel load,” Kopp writes. The T-50 could keep flying and fighting long after the F-22 and F-35 have run out of gas.

Moreover, the T-50 will dodge certain radars better than others, according to Kopp — and U.S. sensors are among the worst at detecting the T-50′s unique shape, he contends. Kopp’s breakdown of T-50 RCS by radar type shows Chinese “counter-VLO radars,” specifically designed to spot American stealth planes, detecting the T-50 best.

The next best sensors to use against the Russian fighter is the UHF radar aboard the U.S. Navy’s E-2 early-warning planes. American fighter radars, including those aboard the F-22 and F-35, are of middling effectiveness against the T-50, Kopp asserts.

“No fundamental obstacles exist in the shaping design of the T-50 prototype which might preclude its development into a genuine Very Low Observable design,” Kopp concludes.

In other words: Watch out, America! You’re now only one of three countries with a truly radar-evading warplane in the air.

Russia’s Stealth Fighter Could Match U.S. Jets, Analyst Says

for those who are interested in knowing more about stealth
A Preliminary Assessment of Specular Radar Cross Section Performance in the Sukhoi T-50 Prototype
 
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Interesting Article. Well USA always stays a decade and a half ahead of Russia. Since Russia is catching up with F-22, what is (or speculative to be) USA's next endeavor?
 
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Interesting Article. Well USA always stays a decade and a half ahead of Russia. Since Russia is catching up with F-22, what is (or speculative to be) USA's next endeavor?

had heard that US was well in to designing of the 6th gen fighter aircraft.
though this might take more than 2 decades, i don't think US will be having overwhelming dominance in the skies in the next decade.Of course,they are already developing their new bomber and so are the Russians.
Americans are ahead, but the Russians put up impressive stuff that makes up for the decade gap.And when the Russians bring their weapon, it will have its own supremacy over the american weapon.
 
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had heard that US was well in to designing of the 6th gen fighter aircraft.
though this might take more than 2 decades, i don't think US will be having overwhelming dominance in the skies in the next decade.Of course,they are already developing their new bomber and so are the Russians.
Americans are ahead, but the Russians put up impressive stuff that makes up for the decade gap.And when the Russians bring their weapon, it will have its own supremacy over the american weapon.
Cough Cough mig-25 Cough
 
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Cough Cough mig-25 Cough

read the article,the author clearly tells that the T-50,in many ways has better performance over F-22.
if you have any links or evidence to prove otherwise. put forward ,we can discuss. I'm not a cheerleader for the T-50, but the analysts suggest that T-50 has it's own advantages over F-22.
 
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what ever the case is american dream to rule by its f22 in 21st century seams to fading as china and russia are catching up in stealth tec and have same programs under way like F22 and F35
 
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read the article,the author clearly tells that the T-50,in many ways has better performance over F-22.
if you have any links or evidence to prove otherwise. put forward ,we can discuss. I'm not a cheerleader for the T-50, but the analysts suggest that T-50 has it's own advantages over F-22.
Nope because this is Kopp's article, biased and do not have the right technical details of the aircraft.
 
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Nope because this is Kopp's article, biased and do not have the right technical details of the aircraft.

than put forward the articles which has the right information, which can clearly debunk kopp's conclusion.
by labeling 'kopp' as 'biased' doesn't prove your point, nor gives any value to your claim.
 
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than put forward the articles which has the right information, which can clearly debunk kopp's conclusion.
by labeling 'kopp' as 'biased' doesn't prove your point, nor gives any value to your claim.
See where he used physical optics to prove that the f-35 isn't stealthy, even when it measuring the rcs is flawed.
 
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See where he used physical optics to prove that the f-35 isn't stealthy, even when it measuring the rcs is flawed.

can you elaborate?
i want to know more about the physical optics.
did you go through the entire article in 'Air power Australia'?
 
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can you elaborate?
i want to know more about the physical optics.
did you go through the entire article in 'Air power Australia'?
Yes I did, proving a point made in this article saying "Us sensors are the worst to detect the T-50's unique shape" he should really know about this jet named the Yf-23, but you should ask this guy named Gambit, he can explain to you why physical optics is flawed. I need some sleep now its late :wave:
 
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Yes I did, proving a point made in this article saying "Us sensors are the worst to detect the T-50's unique shape" he should really know about this jet named the Yf-23, but you should ask this guy named Gambit, he can explain to you why physical optics is flawed. I need some sleep now its late :wave:

thanks for the info....good night.
 
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what ever the case is american dream to rule by its f22 in 21st century seams to fading as china and russia are catching up in stealth tec and have same programs under way like F22 and F35

US made F-22 15 years ago, by the time PAKFA and J-20 are pressed into active service, US
will be well into testing prototypes of 6th gen fighters.
 
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US made F-22 15 years ago, by the time PAKFA and J-20 are pressed into active service, US
will be well into testing prototypes of 6th gen fighters.

and suppose these would be UCAVS for star wars laser on 6 gen would be cool :P
 
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and suppose these would be UCAVS for star wars laser on 6 gen would be cool :P

Maybe. Maybe not either because with powerful computers in future, it would be possibel to turn
your UCAVs against your own forces! The jamming systems and electronic warfare can go to anywhere.
 
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