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MOSCOW — Tens of thousands of Muscovites thronged to a square across the river from the Kremlin on Saturday to protest alleged electoral fraud and urge an end to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's rule, demands repeated at other rallies across this vast country in the largest public show of discontent in post-Soviet Russia.

The demonstrations come three months before Putin, who was president in 2000-2008 and effectively remained the country's leader while prime minister, is to seek a third presidential term. The massive outpouring of public anger challenges his image, supported by state-controlled TV channels, as a man backed by the majority of Russians.

That image was undercut by last Sunday's parliamentary elections, during which his United Party narrowly retained a majority of seats, but lost the unassailable two-thirds majority it had held in the previous parliament. Even that reduced performance was unearned, inflated by massive vote fraud, the opposition says, citing reports by local and international monitors of widespread violations. The reports of vote-rigging and the party's loss of seats acted as a catalyst for long-simmering discontent of many Russians.

"The falsifications that authorities are doing today have turned the country into a big theater, with clowns like in a circus," said Alexander Trofimov, one of the demonstrators at Bolotnaya Square, on an island in the Moscow River adjacent to the Kremlin.

Protests took place in more than 50 other cities from the Pacific Coast to the southwest, including a large demonstration estimated by police at 7,000 people in St. Petersburg.

Less than 100 demonstrators were reported arrested nationwide, far fewer than the hundreds taken into custody at smaller protests in the first days after the Dec. 4 national election. Police, who normally crack down fast and hard on any unauthorized gathering, even allowed a few hundred leftist radicals to conduct an unsanctioned protest on Moscow's Revolution Square just outside the Red Square.

In the Pacific city of Vladivostok, several hundred protesters rallied along a waterside avenue where some of Russia's Pacific Fleet warships are docked. They shouted "Putin's a louse" and some held a banner caricaturing United Russia's emblem, reading "The rats must go."

The Moscow rally, which lasted about three hours, was so sprawling that unbiased crowd estimates were difficult to make. Police put the attendance at 25,000; organizers claimed up to 150,000.

Whatever the precise number, it was a show of dismay that gave pause to the ruling elite. State-controlled TV channels that usually ignore or deride the opposition gave notable airtime to the protests. A top United Russia official, Andrei Isayev, acknowledged late Saturday that "expression of this point of view is extremely important and will be heard in the mass media, society and the state."


Officials in many cities, including Moscow, gave permission for the protests. But in what appeared to be an attempt to prevent young people from attending the protest, Moscow's school system declared Saturday afternoon a mandatory extra school day for grades 9 to 11. Students were told about the decision only on Friday, news reports said.

Hundreds of people were arrested in smaller protests earlier in the week. Some, including prominent opposition blogger Alexei Navalny, were sentenced to 15 days in jail. Another prominent opposition figure, Sergei Udaltsov, was hospitalized after his Monday arrest and was expected to be released Saturday, but the Interfax news agency said he was taken from the hospital to a court to face further charges.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev conceded this week that election law may have been violated, and Putin suggested "dialogue with the opposition-minded" – breaking from his usual authoritarian image. The Kremlin has come under strong international pressure, with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton calling the vote unfair and urging an investigation into fraud. Putin in turn criticized Clinton and the United States for allegedly instigating protests and trying to undermine Russia.

If Saturday's protests are a success, the activists then face the challenge of long-term strategy. Even though U.S. Sen. John McCain recently tweeted to Putin that "the Arab Spring is coming to a neighborhood near you," things in Russia are not that simple.

The popular uprisings that brought down governments in Georgia in 2003, in Ukraine the next year, and in Egypt last spring all were significantly boosted by demonstrators being able to establish round-the-clock presences, notably in Cairo's Tahrir Square and the massive tent camp on Kiev's main avenue. Russian police would hardly tolerate anything similar.

Opposition figures indicated Friday that the next step would be to call another protest in Moscow for next weekend and make it even bigger. But staged events at regular intervals may be less effective than daily spontaneous protests.

Russia's opposition also is vulnerable to attacks on the websites and social media that have nourished the protests. This week, an official of Vkontakte, a Russian version of Facebook, reported pressure from the FSB, the KGB's main successor, to block access to opposition groups, but said his company refused.

On election day, the websites of a main independent radio station and the country's only independent election-monitoring group fell victim to denial-of-service hacker attacks.

Russia Protests: Thousands Rally Against Vote Fraud, Putin

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" I looked into Putin's eyes and saw 3 words K. G. B! "
 
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WHY IS IT SO difficult to let people elect their representatives? Why do communist countries or commie thinkers have such low regard and low confidence in its own citizens? ...
 
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Never anticipated this..Always thought Putin as next Brezhnev...
 
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WHY IS IT SO difficult to let people elect their representatives? Why do communist countries or commie thinkers have such low regard and low confidence in its own citizens? ...
yeah, thats somehow funny when people vote for Al Gore but get Bush as their president... but since when USA became communist country?
 
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yeah, thats somehow funny when people vote for Al Gore but get Bush as their president... but since when USA became communist country?

supreme court bastards! well for this democrat atleast ... but hardly communist in any sane persons head. they gave the process time to play out - and actually a study done on it months later showed that Bush did have more votes. but they was no ballot stuffing like with Putin.
 
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supreme court bastards! well for this democrat atleast ... but hardly communist is any sane persons head. they gave the process time to play out - and actually a study done on it months later showed that Bush did had more votes. but they was no ballot stuffing like with Putin.

whatever that study showed you dont need to win more votes of american citiziens to become president, yeah? so how high is american government's regard of their citiziens?

and ballot stuffing.. they dont need it since they got something better - one party under two names system
 
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hope putin kills these pro-western bastards.

china must use this chance to support russia.

we must always keep russia and the west as enemies.
a western-russian alliance will be dangerous for china.

let the west interfere in russia, it will piss off the russian leaders and make them hate the west more.

chinese leaders must be smart and use this crisis to our advantage.
never let a crisis go to waste.
 
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yeah, thats somehow funny when people vote for Al Gore but get Bush as their president... but since when USA became communist country?
Bush won Al Gore when Democrates were in power. Is that possible in Russia? :lol:
 
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Bush won Al Gore when Democrates were in power. Is that possible in Russia? :lol:

Israelis are indeed the type that would bite the hand that helped them.... you should go ask your grandpa who pulled him out of the concentration camp? most likely it would be a Russian soldier since they broke though the German defences on the eastern front to save your butt from being cooked ... but ever since them all the Jews have done is stab Russia in the back
 
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Israelis are indeed the type that would bite the hand that helped them.... you should go ask your grandpa who pulled him out of the concentration camp? most likely it would be a Russian soldier since they broke though the German defences on the eastern front to save your butt from being cooked ... but ever since them all the Jews have done is stab Russia in the back

exactly.

the jews were rescued from concentration camps from the russians, but now the jews have put innocent palestinians in concentration camps.
 
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Putin is good for Russia..he has restored the Russian confidence after years of stagnation. These protests are nothing but some forigen element inspired movements chasing the illusion of McDonalds, Pepsi and green back


if hitler hated america , you would be worshiping his stance...

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hope putin kills these pro-western bastards.

china must use this chance to support russia.

we must always keep russia and the west as enemies.
a western-russian alliance will be dangerous for china.

let the west interfere in russia, it will piss off the russian leaders and make them hate the west more.

chinese leaders must be smart and use this crisis to our advantage.
never let a crisis go to waste.

you mean as smart as they were in S china and counties surrounding it? Chinese leaders are smart- smart enough to understand its populous is much like you- too dangerous for its own godd and best treated with kid gloves and brainwashed..
 
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whatever that study showed you dont need to win more votes of american citiziens to become president, yeah? so how high is american government's regard of their citiziens?

and ballot stuffing.. they dont need it since they got something better - one party under two names system

what ? are you telling us that wining votes to become president in an election is a foreign concept to you?

you seem surprised by it...

and two party system is worse than cheating? is that the new logic we are supposed to follow? what is this - one flew over the cuckoo's nest gathering?

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exactly.

the jews were rescued from concentration camps from the russians, but now the jews have put innocent palestinians in concentration camps.

Okay that's it- the high IQ chinese claim is officially debunked... we have way too many of them as proof positive. Once again - the fudging of the numbers can't be hidden anymore!
 
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