Russia, Pakistan in broader cooperation bid

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Russia and Pakistan hope that ties between their Parliaments can help them deepen cooperation in energy, transport, farming, high tech and aerospace.
Russian Upper House Speaker Valentina Matviyenko spoke about this at the start of an official visit to Islamabad on Wednesday.

Earlier this year, Pakistan signaled interest in acquiring Russian-made Superjet-100 airliners.

The report is from the Pakistan correspondent of The Voice of Russia.

Voice of Russia

Russia, Pakistan in broader cooperation bid: Voice of Russia

 

[khanboy007]

the superjet 100 airliner had a very bad crash in indonesia on its demo flight and it was set to blow aerospace deals but couldnt grab it, although energy,farming and technology sound good

 

[hunter_hunted]

Are they again trying to to troll. Enough of this DEEP COOPERATION

 

[somebozo]

the superjet 100 airliner had a very bad crash in indonesia on its demo flight and it was set to blow aerospace deals but couldnt grab it, although energy,farming and technology sound good

it was pilot error not the fault of plane itself

The day after the crash Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev set up a commission, to investigate the cause of the accident, headed by the Industry and Trade Ministry's Yury Slyusar.[26] According to the National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC), the Indonesian agency for the investigation of civil aircraft accidents, analysis of the crash woukd take up to 12 months.[27] On 15 May 2012 it was reported in the local media that the Indonesian government had turned down Russia's request to send back the flight data recorder, stating that Indonesian investigators would determine the cause of the crash, while Russian experts would provide support only.[28] The cockpit voice recorder was found on 15 May 2012 at a distance of 100 m from the tail section.[8] The flight data recorder was found on 31 May 2012.[29] at a distance of 200 m from the tail section.[30]
The Indonesian NTSC had released their Preliminary Report, which listed factual findings but did not attempt to determine the cause of the accident.[31]
According to sources within the investigating committee, the aircraft was in full working order and the incident was ascribed to human error.[32][33]
The final report was released 18 December 2012 and indicated that the accident was caused by crew members ignoring terrain warnings that they had incorrectly attributed to a database problem. The crew had turned off the terrain warning system and were unaware that they were operating in close proximity to mountains. The crew, including the captain, were engaging in conversation with potential customers as the aircraft impacted the ground.[34]

 

[Pakistanisage]

Are they again trying to to troll. Enough of this DEEP COOPERATION

Let's see what transpires , BRO.

Give peace a chance and see if our Russian friends deliver meaningful help with Transfer of Technology included as they have done with Indians.

We needlessly opposed them during COLD WAR Period to appease USA and US was never sincere with us.

Why should we close any doors.

 

[danger007]

Let's see what transpires , BRO.

Give peace a chance and see if our Russian friends deliver meaningful help with Transfer of Technology included as they have done with Indians.

We needlessly opposed them during COLD WAR Period to appease USA and US was never sincere with us.

Why should we close any doors.

ToT? for what? lol

 

[RazorMC]

ToT? for what? lol

Maybe referring to technology like civilian jet engines (even though it's still highly unlikely).

 

[danger007]

Maybe referring to technology like civilian jet engines (even though it's still highly unlikely).

which means no useful for pakistan... because pakistan don't have deep relations with Russia like India.... simple pakistan is ain't gonna build own air craft for civilians purpose... nor you do have domestic demand...

 

[RazorMC]

which means no useful for pakistan... because pakistan don't have deep relations with Russia like India.... simple pakistan is ain't gonna build own air craft for civilians purpose... nor you do have domestic demand...

There is demand in the aviation industry but the high costs of buying the aircraft is a limiting factor. Local production can lower costs, boost profits and help us in developing aircraft for export as well.

 

[danger007]

There is demand in the aviation industry but the high costs of buying the aircraft is a limiting factor. Local production can lower costs, boost profits and help us in developing aircraft for export as well.

don't take offensive... but you need lot more work to do to start own flight manufacturing unit.... it is very expensive industry.... yet pakistan haven't built own chopper( not for defence for civil sector)

 

[Invincible INDIAN]

There is demand in the aviation industry but the high costs of buying the aircraft is a limiting factor. Local production can lower costs, boost profits and help us in developing aircraft for export as well.

Yes, danger007 is right here. You should have sufficient demand to run your production lines continuously. Either it is domestic(might not be high in current scenario) or should have foreign orders(Unlikely as russia won't allow). Moreover, you should have a back up plan for your production line for new variants too.
And yes, its a costly industry to step in.

 

[tarrar]

The problem here is India will not want Russia to have good relation with Pakistan & if Russia & Pakistan get close then India will try to stop Russia from development in Pakistan & India will also try to stop Defence deals as well.

 

[RazorMC]

don't take offensive... but you need lot more work to do to start own flight manufacturing unit.... it is very expensive industry.... yet pakistan haven't built own chopper( not for defence for civil sector)

I don't take offence easily

You're right about our limited capabilities in civil production, but that's exactly the reason why Pakistan should look for JVs or ToTs for jet engines. Starting now would mean that we may have a 100% Pakistani engine by 2018.

 

[A.Rafay]

ISLAMABAD - Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf on Thursday said that Russia is a source of peace and stability at both regional and global levels and its growing influence ‘is a positive development for a multi-polar world of today’.

The Prime Minister welcomed a delegation of the Council of Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation led by Ms Valentina Matvienko, Chairperson of the Council at Prime Minister’s House. Mr Andrey Bundnik, Russian ambassador in Pakistan also accompanied the Chairperson.

The PM lauded the expansion in the bilateral relations as well as economic cooperation between the two countries and said that “Pakistan greatly values Russia’s interest to invest in the energy sector of Pakistan. There is a national consensus in Pakistan on building strong relationship with the Russian Federation and we attach great importance to our relations with Russia. Both the countries have initiated a process of building a broad-based long term partnership. We greatly value the support and assistance of Russian Federation in the war against terrorism.”

Ms Valentina Matvienko thanked the Prime Minister for meeting the delegation and said that “Pakistan is an important partner of Russia and plays an important role in international relations”. She added that exchange of visits of the parliamentary delegations of both the countries would help strengthening the bilateral relations. She said that some 2000 Pakistani students have graduated from Russian universities and Russia would welcome more students from Pakistan.

The Prime Minister said that parliaments of both the countries should play pivotal roles in enhancing the relationship between the two countries, adding, that “Pakistan is an ideal country for foreign investors and Russian investors must be encouraged to invest in Pakistan”.

The PM thanked the Russian Federation for signing a memorandum of understanding for expansion and modernization of Pakistan Steel Mills and hoped that the up gradation of the Steel Mills would be completed on time.

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[danger007]

I don't take offence easily

You're right about our limited capabilities in civil production, but that's exactly the reason why Pakistan should look for JVs or ToTs for jet engines. Starting now would mean that we may have a 100% Pakistani engine by 2018.

There two certain things we should keep in mind
1. having the capability to build a civilian air craft.(technology, production facilities)
2. Keeping the Industry alive.... which you need to run the Massive Industry for long....to run the R&D facilities..... Biggest Issue is engine...

Pakistan is small country, With less air ports... So you will have less Domestic demand..... and the other thing is to compete with Giant industries to get the orders from abroad..... for that Pakistan image should be positive....