Russia experts suggest to sell MiG-35 to Pakistan

[holysaturn]

guys dont cry yet this was a russian news paf never went for mig and never will fc 20 is much more potent than -35

who in the hell was cryin please quote or jus get out.................an even if it was offered pak doesnt hav finance to buy it.

 

[MZUBAIR]

It would be very hard for Russia to bypass India and sell military ware to Pakistan

Its already bypassed.

JF-17 engine. Ground Radars, Small and Medium Scale Weapons, parts of Tanks (Al-Khalid, Alzarar) etc

 

[MZUBAIR]

IAF had studied the mig very well durin mmrca so it will be foolish for pak to buy it.............and still for paks situation even the mig is expensive so they must be comfortable with j-10,j-f-17.

PAK wouldnt be itrested to buy Mig-35 but they can ask for parts or thoer varients .... that might be integrated in JF17, J-10B or other.

 

[holysaturn]

PAK wouldnt be itrested to buy Mig-35 but they can ask for parts or thoer varients .... that might be integrated in JF17, J-10B or other.

yup definitely but it all depends on how pakistan negotiates and pakistan is bad at that...................and i do feel that pak has to acquire license for the rd-33 if russia allows it ,pak just cant wait for china to the get engines from russia and it will also make maintenance ,support, upgradation easier.

 

[indian dream]

Russia will not offer Migs to pakistan.. there is no official announcement yet, about any military sale to pakistan..

For the russians, Indian defense market is more important than pakistan's..Even if they offer migs to pakistan they will induct nearly 40 migs, but Indian naval air arm itself seperately orders 45 mig 29 upgraded versions, so definitely russians will not want to loose such a big defense market(India is the leading defense importer)..

And more over Russia is against developing military ties with Pakistan, which is stated clearly by putin..

Russia against developing military ties with Pakistan | Defense | RIA Novosti

 

[holysaturn]

Russia will not offer Migs to pakistan.. there is no official announcement yet, about any military sale to pakistan..

For the russians, Indian defense market is more important than pakistan's..Even if they offer migs to pakistan they will induct nearly 40 migs, but Indian naval arm itself seperately orders 45 mig 29 upgraded versions, so definitely russians will not want to loose such a big defense market(India is the leading defense importer)..

And more over Russia is against developing military ties with Pakistan, which is stated clearly by putin..

Russia against developing military ties with Pakistan | Defense | RIA Novosti

times keep changing and after mmrca there might be a remote possibility but i dont see that happening.

 

[indian dream]

times keep changing and after mmrca there might be a remote possibility but i dont see that happening.

oh bro dont see only MMRCA deal... apart from MMRCA, russians having lot of projects in their pocket not only in the defense sector, in the Nuclear sector as well...

 

[notsuperstitious]

It sounds very silly when Indian members come up with comments like above by Peshwa. It is all about business in modern world and Russia, like US, China, France etc, has the right to sell to whom they may like. India is still in no position to command them to do this or that.

Peshwa's comment is 100% correct, and does not go against what you said. Yes it IS business only, you never hear us talk of phoney brotherhood, do you?

But since it IS business and business alone, Russia will have to consider its business relationship with India too, thats all. If they find doing business with you more profitable, they will go with you. simple, and we understand. Its not about commanding, its about business. We are all on the same page, only some facts on the ground may be different.

 

[tvsram1992]

can anyone give me a quick comparison of the su30 and mig35?? range , payload,radar,tech etc

Range: su30mki=2Mig35
Payload : su30mki=2Mig35
radar:mig35 aesa not yet tested
tech: mki has many foregin inputs
thrustvectoring: mig has 3d , su30mki has 2d
rcs: su30mki has 10 times more rcs than mig 35

 

[DarK-LorD]

Range: su30mki=2Mig35
Payload : su30mki=2Mig35
radar:mig35 aesa not yet tested
tech: mki has many foregin inputs
thrustvectoring: mig has 3d , su30mki has 2d
rcs: su30mki has 10 times more rcs than mig 35

ALL Su-30MKI to be fitted with AESA radar by 2015.

 

[tvsram1992]

ALL Su-30MKI to be fitted with AESA radar by 2015.

Are you sure? is it possible by 2015?
the su30's produced after the 40 super30 brahmos capable will be having aesa radar.

 

[SBD-3]

yup definitely but it all depends on how pakistan negotiates and pakistan is bad at that...................and i do feel that pak has to acquire license for the rd-33 if russia allows it ,pak just cant wait for china to the get engines from russia and it will also make maintenance ,support, upgradation easier.

1- Dont make an argument which you can not support. Can you point out a single deal where PAF has proved bad? PAF is very cautious about spending the money it has. For example, PAF only inducts mature platforms (Except JFT but looking at the flight record Alhamdulillah It has been remarkable). Why PAF is delaying FC-20? because it wants the platform to mature not jump in it early with excitement only ending at demanding tweaks.
2- The RD-33 is a stop gap i am sure once WS-13 is enough mature or even WS-10X or WS-15 who know what lands in future varients. But yes PAF would have some sort of assurance before moving on as it would no way lurk into an unknown area

 

[SBD-3]

ALL Su-30MKI to be fitted with AESA radar by 2015.

All we usually hear is "will............" "will..........." and "will.............."

 

[SBD-3]

Peshwa's comment is 100% correct, and does not go against what you said. Yes it IS business only, you never hear us talk of phoney brotherhood, do you?

But since it IS business and business alone, Russia will have to consider its business relationship with India too, thats all. If they find doing business with you more profitable, they will go with you. simple, and we understand. Its not about commanding, its about business. We are all on the same page, only some facts on the ground may be different.

But the problem is where else will India look if Russia does that? Russia still supplies arms to China what has India been able to do this. Lets assume India decides to leave Russian Camp, where else would it fall? Europeans? trust me they will suck the money dry out of Indian Millitary.

 

[SBD-3]

if i have been minister of defence i would have stoped buying F 16 and gone for 20 Mig 35

Then we would have our first fanboy finance minister