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I asked u a simple question: which armies have invaded Syria. You failed to answer. As for ur links, you seriously claim that Assad with 300,000 army + 300,000 reserve, 5000 tanks, hundreds of jets.. lost 3/4 of country because of several thousand individuals? LOL.

As for ratings, did you seriously just mention magic internet points as something to be proud of?

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Its best indication who is taken seriously on this forum and who is not.
 
I asked u a simple question: which armies have invaded Syria. You failed to answer. As for ur links, you seriously claim that Assad with 300,000 army + 300,000 reserve, 5000 tanks, hundreds of jets.. lost 3/4 of country because of several thousand individuals? LOL.


Its best indication who is taken seriously on this forum and who is not.

Actually,Syria has been invaded by terrorist organization who has been created by third countries for their long term purpose.
But after the falling of that plan ,Syrian people make winning in that dirty war ,but Hezbollah have built his strength to level of regular army.
This was unacceptable level for middle east,but after yesterday terrorist act ,in Europe is on rise support for every one who is fight against ISIS,Nusra,Qaeda... and other terrorist organizations who are created in this few years.
 
Please don't be one of the people who claim the US somehow 'lost' in Vietnam. The US achieved all their military objectives in that campaign.

They destroyed, raped and murdered and put the fear of god in every other nation in the world of what happens when you cross the United States.

That's not my point. My point is that defeating transnational ideologies like islamic extremism is very difficult. In the end south Vietnam became communist, that was what American invasion was meant to prevent but failed to do so.
 
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You got confused.

My point is that the only way to fight war is to destroy everything. Nothing should be left standing. Thats why USA was successful in WW2 and thats why they failed in Iraq/Afg.
Every war have different dynamics.

Axis powers were responsible for so much death and destruction in various regions that it was easy for the opposing Allied powers to adopt equally brutal measures against them to rollback their gains and influence public opinion towards this end. WW2 was holistically so brutal that a nation could use a nuclear weapon or two against enemies [in those days] and get away with it without worrying about global reaction.

Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) and Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) were conducted under the official narrative of war against terrorism and regimes that supported terrorism. However, Ba'ath Party (led by Saddam Hussein) and Taliban (led by Mullah Mohammad Omar) did not resemble Axis powers by any stretch of imagination because they were not attacking and destroying other nations. And entire world knew that both regimes faced opposition at home.

Taliban have been targeted for enabling Al-Qaeda to use Afghanistan as a staging ground for terrorist activities [local and global], therefore Operation Enduring Freedom had some legitimacy after 9/11 event. However, much of the world knew that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with terrorist organizations and perceived Operation Iraqi Freedom as a "neocon agenda." By all accounts, Operation Iraqi Freedom was an ill-advised venture because important resources were diverted from ongoing Operation Enduring Freedom towards it and Afghan front suffered from lack of sufficient commitment as a consequence. US had a golden opportunity to (strongly) focus on problems in Afghanistan but neglected it once again.

Now, terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS are certainly perceived as a threat to global security but why would an entire nation be indiscriminately bombed to stop them? These groups are multi-ethnic and ideologically-driven and have legs in different nations. They are (not) strictly regional threats that can be contained and/or destroyed by targeting a single (host) nation.

Taliban is also a multi-ethnic and ideologically-driven movement and it has legs in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is why US military forces conducted offensive operations in both nations, often violating Pakistan's sovereignty in the process (Operation Neptune Spear is a good example).

US military forces utterly dismantled Ba'ath Party [and its security apparatus] in Iraq because it was a regional power. However, multi-ethnic and ideologically-driven movements such as Taliban, Al-Qaeda and ISIS continue to exist in some form even after loosing thousands of men in various battles because they (somehow) manage to get new recruits from different parts of the world and some nations often fund them and use them as tools of their national interests in the region to increase their influence.

I can explain in great detail how insurgency in Iraq emerged as a well-coordinated and powerful movement after destruction of its security apparatus. Iraq descended into a brutal civil war in the aftermath of fall of Saddam Hussein due to ethnic tensions between Shia, Sunni and Kurd factions in the nation and foreign intervention to strengthen a favored faction to enable it to achieve supremacy within the country. US was literally caught off-guard in this mess and played a vital role in preventing disintegration of the nation, but at a high cost in men and material. However, lengthy occupation became an expensive venture and President Barack Obama decided to withdraw US troops from the region. US have also experienced a fact that Shia and Sunni factions do not get along well in the Middle East and have decided to stay away from this centuries old ideological conflict. US, at maximum, will defend GCC states in the hour of need from direct aggression from Iran and its allies in the Middle East.

Now, can US utterly obliterate a nation with its overwhelming firepower? ABSOLUTELY - it is a (genuine) superpower by all accounts. But how a US government would politically justify such a move against an external threat unless it presents a significant threat to survival of US and cannot be discouraged through diplomacy? North Korea might be perceived as a threat of such caliber [at some level within US] but it have not targeted US [assets] in the surrounding areas in spite of its hostile political posture.

Furthermore, social media have emerged as a powerful element in current times that can influence political decisions to a certain extent. This element was missing during WW2 and military forces [of any nation] could go to any length to achieve its goals back then. However, in current times, indiscriminate bombings in urban areas and genocide cannot be politically justified and concealed unless something happens that is really bad and creates an opportunity for political will to carry out such actions.

On top of everything, US is a democratic nation and it is unlikely to be as brutal (and/or worse) in its actions as a hardened dictatorship [is normally expected to be] without sufficient external pressures that may fuel such sentiments within American public. Remember global (and domestic) reactions to Abu Ghraib torture scandal in Iraq?

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On a separate note, some people mistakenly assume that US military forces are not efficient in combat operations, they are normally brilliant in execution of (any) military operation. Performance of US military forces in major battles of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom are actually studied by military forces of many nations in the world (often quietly) to learn lessons from them and emulate the professionalism of US military forces in similar situations [should they ever arise]. For example, major US military operations in urban environments of Iraq serve as a benchmark of brilliance and excellence in tactics and techniques for military forces in such environments [worldwide]. Examples include Thunder Run in Baghdad and Operation Phantom Fury in Fallujah.

US military forces are actually trend-settlers in warfare techniques. I can cite numerous examples.
 
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I dont produce any theory, just stating the fact that Robert Fisk is well known Hezbollah/Assad fanboy. He is kissing Hezbollah arse since 1980-es. But u and ur crying bear friend were not even born then yet then.

How is that even relevant to the fact that USA and it's Western and regional GCC allies have created every major islamic terrorist organization in recent history??
 
I dont produce any theory, just stating the fact that Robert Fisk is well known Hezbollah/Assad fanboy. He is kissing Hezbollah arse since 1980-es. But u and ur crying bear friend were not even born then yet then.

How is that even relevant to the fact that USA and it's Western and regional GCC allies have created every major islamic terrorist organization in recent history??
 
Hi
talking against the financiers and ideological masters of the terrorist fiends is not sectarian tilt but talking the obvious
anti Muslim sentiments rise because you and me exhibit a criminal silence or find half arsed excuses for the terrorist attacks committed by these wahabi terrorists against Muslims and non Muslims alike.
so while some trolls found it a good chance to lambaste against Islam ... then there were those who made equally impolite remarks like chickens returning to roost and all that.


go figure... lets be all Muslims and some complete indifference to the world tragedies and then demand respect and freedom from the west

I have serious problem with such stories where the perpetrators of terror show the pictures of children for Muslim sympathy. not few days ago the same death cult cut the necks of entire family in Afghanistan including a little girl with a metal wire. they use under age kids to execute captured soldiers and other civilians. and then the same apologists dont see anything wrong with that.

spare some thoughts for the kids blown up by Saudi bombing of Yemen.
bloody hypocrites

NO u precieve KSA to be financers based on propaganda & myth that perfectly fit into your personal political/sectarian bias etc etc.

Muslims exhibit a criminal silence? R u serious? Muslims do speak out. Muslims scholars always speak out but they r not covered by western media. Its bcs those who speak out also correctly point out that one-off extremist acts in western capitals r an inevitable consequence of the western invasion & bombings of muslim lands and west's aspiration of imposing secularism on muslim lands. Thus those who speak out r NOT speaking the western narrative and not "moderate" enough . Liberal west has already declared war on Islam & muslims. SO no amount of "speaking out" would change their mind. U r either with them or against them. U can't be a muslim but have to be an intellectually colonized liberal to be considered "worthy of their respect". That's how west thinks. History is a testimony of that.

Muslims r dying everyday whether its PAK, BD , central asian republics or ME either at the hands of western/zionist and russian bombers or secular dictators. And u want muslims to bend over backwards every time a one-off incident happens in paris or london? Do u even care abt the no. of muslims who died in syria so far? Do u know how many die in palestine everyday? Going by your previous posts and post on this thread, it seems u don't care and only thing that matters to u is what the "benevolent" liberal west would think of u.
 
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How is that even relevant to the fact that USA and it's Western and regional GCC allies have created every major islamic terrorist organization in recent history??
The thing that is obvious but people can't see is that every major group needs an external force to find/supply them to survive in its initial stages. This is done through Intelligence agencies. The only people that have enough money to do this is of course the west and their cronies (Saudi Arabia). Destabilizing the ME was planned a while ago.

Confession of US General Wesley Clark
 
More Muslims are busy claiming it to be Israeli attacks. Majority are claiming this to be in some way expected and correlated with the French actions against terrorists in Syria. Only a few have categorically denounced it. A look at the first page of the thread of Paris gives ample proof.
And when you paint even the few with the ones not, you are behhaving as the other side you are preaching against.... :tsk:

In any case, I am excluding the liberal Muslim group here. I mentioned the 'strict' one for a reason. Read properly please. Or don't reply to me. :)
Strict or liberal they dont have it printed on their heads....

Are you serious? Staying on the thread all night is the collective Muslim answer to terrorism?
Doing anything is never enough....Always expect more....What did you do? You also only codemned it and BS agaisnt Islam or Muslims...how is that more helpful?

How many terrorists from these countries bomb civilian
You wanna know how much shit happened after the Vietnam war and how many people the Americans had to take in refuges for their doing?

the name of God?
Now that is their choice what words they please to take...If they said RAM would you automatically blame Hinduism? crusaders killed in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit, went around with a cross with a decree from the pope....Noone blamed Christianity not even you! So why the active 2 face?
 
Once I had accidentally burnt my hand while in the lab with white phosphorus. That thing is terrible.

ahahahha.......that made me laugh. LOL

Good job Russia, wipe out all those terrorists pigs.

However, if it was carried out by the U.S/U.K/France you wont be saying the same thing(it will be war crimes/imperialists etc).:undecided:

Muslims r dying everyday whether its PAK, BD , central asian republics or ME either at the hands of western/zionist and russian bombers or secular dictators. And u want muslims to bend over backwards every time a one-off incident happens in paris or london?
Good one. lol
Poor victims, seems the whole world is after you.:cray:
 
@Irfan Baloch
Yes the saudis are wrong in what they are doing in yemen. Then what makes the Iranians right. Or u just can't see the evil on the flip side. Really that's a new low and never expected it from u.
 
The US & EU won't allow it's terrorist children to be wiped out by Russia. That's why the west whimpers like a mother in pain when Russia attacks ISIS.

i think US was crying because Russians were attacking Syrian opposition (FSA)
 

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